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I have an idea you are not familiar with the concept of "table styles,"
which are different from paragraph styles. As for terminology, I have to
confess that Word's UI and Help are somewhat inconsistent in referring to
the top row(s) of a table. A repeated row or rows is/are consistently
described as "heading row(s)," while the Sort and Table Style dialogs use
the term "header row" for the (not necessarily repeating) top row (only a
single one permitted).
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Sam Hobbs" wrote in message
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I also repeat myself when I say I know how to create and use a custom
style.
I assume the answer is that the feature I asked about does not exist in
Word, and if so, then that is all I need to know.
What "nonstandard terminology"? If you mean "header" and "heading", I am
sure not familiar with the definitions you specify. Where are they
defined?
If I know what the standard definitions are, then I will try to use the
correct terminology. However since this is the new users group, it will
sometimes be necessary to be a little more flexible in the use of
terminology.
I have used a variety of word processors, including "Script", IBM's
Mainframe word processing software. GML is a set of Script macros and SGML
is a standardized version of GML. HTML is a non-proprietary format based
upon SGML. I have used terminology that I am familiar with from a variety
of
environments.
Again, if it is standard terminology, then I am interested in knowing
where
it is defined.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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I repeat that if you use a table style, you can define specific
formatting
for the heading row. If you save a Word document as a Web page, that row
(or
a row designated as a heading row using Heading Rows Repeat) will most
likely be interpreted as a header row in the in the HTML table. Aside
from
that, the first row of any table is interpreted by Word as a "header
row"
for the purpose of, say, mail merges (where the first row is used to
provide
merge field names).
Please be aware that we are also "trying to be nice," but if you insist
on
trying to apply nonstandard terminology to Word, then you are inevitably
going to foster the impression that you know less about Word than those
who
are trying to help you. The descriptions and examples you give are
applicable to Excel spreadsheets; they are not applicable to Word
documents.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Sam Hobbs" wrote in
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I was trying to be nice but that made me vulnerable to people that
think
I
don't understand.
A header is something that is at the beginning of something and the
header
provides information about what follows. Headers are used abundantly in
data, such as order entry data and accounting system trasactions. In
most
situations, such as for data as I described, there is not a concept of
a
page for which the header needs to be repeated for.
Regardlous of that, let's use something more relevant. Perhaps you are
not
familiar with HTML tables, because if you were, you would understand
what
I
meant. Using FrontPage, when we create a table, we can specify that a
cell
is a header cell. For each header cell, FrontPage uses a "TH" tag
instead
of
a "TD" tag. HTML has style settings for TH tags that are different from
TD
tags.
It is the formatting that I mean when I say "header". In Word, when I
use
"Heading Rows Repeat", the formatting does not change, so it is not
what
I
am asking about. Perhaps Word does not have the feature I thought it
does,
and if so, then that is the answer. I realize that I can create a style
that
I use with table headers and I know how to do that.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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I think your terminology may be confusing everyone (including possibly
yourself). A header is something that repeats at the top of the page.
A
heading is a particular kind of style. A table can have a heading row
(or
rows) that, like a page header, repeat(s) at the top of each page. In
order
to make a heading row repeat, you check the appropriate option on the
Table
menu. In Word 2000 and up, it's Heading Rows Repeat; in earlier
versions,
it's just Heading, I think.
If you are applying a table style, you can define a specific format
for
the
top row (confusingly identified as "Header row").
If you are asking about putting a table (cell) in the page header,
then
what
is your question? You can create a table in the header just as you
can
anywhere else.
I think you're still asking the question answered in my first
paragraph,
though. You make a row (not a cell) a heading row by selecting it and
checking Heading Rows Repeat. You can have as many heading rows as
you
want,
but they must be contiguous and at the top of the table. If you don't
want
them to repeat, then there is no point in designating them as heading
rows.
You can still, however, apply heading styles.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Sam Hobbs" wrote in
message
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Thnk you for your thorough answer. I am sorry, but my question was
not
clear. My question is "How do I make a table cell a header?". The
part
about
how to make make the header repeat made the question confusing. I
did
not
intend to ask how to make the header repeat. I meant to ask how to
make
the
header; that is, how to specify that a row is a header row.
I know that many people put their question after a long explanation,
but
since I have answered thousands of questions in another forum, I
know
how
much it helps to have the question at the top. Unfortunately, many
people
don't expect the question to be at the top, so it is confusing to
have
the
question at the top; right? Sorry.
"JBNewsGroup" wrote in message
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Hi Sam,
You do not say which version of Word. However, in Word 2000 do
the
following steps:
1. Select the top table rows that you want to be a header.
2. On the Menu bar click on "Table".
3. On the drop down menu find "Heading Rows Repeat" and click on
it.
As the table expands to a second page, or newspaper column if that
is
set
up, the rows you selected will be repeated. The "header" must be
one,
or
more, of the first table rows and must be consecutive rows. If
any
other
rows are selected the "Heading Rows Repeat" will be disabled(
Grayed
out ).
There may be a keyboard shortcut for this but I do not know of
one.
Maybe
someone else can give you the shortcut keys if there is one.
Jerry Bodoff
"Sam Hobbs" wrote in
message
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How do I make a table cell a header?
Or is there nothing in Word for specifying a cell as a header? I
sure
thought I had done that but it has been a long time. Perhaps I am
just
too
accustomed to HTML, in which there are separate tags for header
cells.
I looked in the Word documentation and could not find anything,
except
something describing how to "Repeat a table heading on subsequent
pages",
which sure implies that there is something such as "a table
heading"
in
Word
too. If that is true, then it is impossible to find in the Word
documentation how to make them. If that is not true, then the
haeding
"Repeat a table heading...." is sure misleading.
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