Thanks for taking the time to help me.

How do I correct things? When I look at the "properties" of the two frames,
I now see that the first one has text wrapping option "around" selected
while the second has the text wrapping option "none" selected. None of
these are "In Line With Text" or "In Front of Text", so I am confused.

If I click on the properties of the text box in Fig 3, the option for "Word
wrap text in Autoshape" is selected, but removing it does not eliminate the
text box. (I cannot look at properties on the caption of Fig 2 to compare
because no box appears).

I am not sure what to do about the paragraph marks you mention.

So bottom line: are you saying I did something wrong when created Fig 3 and
how do I correct the problem and avoid it in the future (there are many more
figures to go)?

Sorry for being so obtuse.

Jeff


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Although the two images look identical, the first one is In Line With
Text and the second one is In Front of Text (which it shouldn't be).
If you had changed the wrapping to inline before inserting the
caption, you wouldn't have gotten a text box.

Note that there are two paragraph marks in the first frame, one for
the image and one for the caption. The only paragraph in the second
frame is the one behind the image, to which both the image and the
caption are anchored.

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Hi Suzanne

I believe I did the identical things in both.

I've uploaded a version of the doc to
www.orthohelp.com/upload/2 frames.doc
(You'll have to copy and paste that url)

You will notice that if you click on the caption text in Figure 2 no
text box appears, but if you click on the caption on Figure 3 a text
box appears. Both are within frames (marked by red borders for this
example). Jeff


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
When you select a wrapped graphic, including one in a text box, the
caption will be in a text box. Are you sure you're using a frame and
not a text box?

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I'm using Word 2002 in Windows XP and this concerns a Word document
(not a website).
In this document I use frames to accurately position illustrations
and their captions.
My question concerns 2 such instances where I cannot figure out why
the behavior is different.

In both cases - within the same document - I first created a frame
into which I inserted an image and then after selecting the image
added a caption (Insert/reference/caption). In both cases the
image and the caption are within their respective frames with the
caption below the image, but, in one case the caption is in a
textbox (its borders appear when I select the caption) while in
then other there does not seem to be a text box (no border that I
can see when I select it). I cannot understand the different
behavior and how I can select for
myself which one to use or if it matters.

Any suggestions or help?

Jeff