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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Word 97 in Windows XP to maintain formatting

Install it in a different folder. There will be competition. If you
double-click a Word file in Explorer, it will open in whichever version of
Word you used more recently, and you may get an "Installing..." notice when
you start the other version.

Users who run several versions of Word as a matter of course (for testing
purposes) often use virtual machines created by Virtual PC or VMware.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in message
...
Yes, that makes good sense. But, what about the fact that Word 2003 is
already installed. Won't there be a conflict with 2 winword's, .dll's,

etc?
Many supporting files have the same name.
And, by the way, I know and appreciate your patience and help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can't "copy" Word; you must install it from the Office CD. If you do

a
custom install, you can select just the applications and features you

want
to install.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in message
...
I am at the point of wanting to try Word 97 in XP. I copied Word 97

and
the
DLLs it wanted (there could be more). When I tried to run it, Windows

issues
the message "There is not enough memory or disk space to run Word". I
suspect this is a standard CYA message when you try to do something

Windows
doesn't like. Anyway, if I use Add/Remove programs to remove Word, it

seems
to want to remove Office 2003. Excel, PowerPoint, etc. are fine and I

want
to leave them alone. Also, I have already customized options and tool

bars
in Word 2003. Is there a way to "disable" only Word or even lie to XP

that
there is no Word? I don't want to install Office 97, only Word 97. I

can
see that it would be likely to have a real mess with trying to do

this. I
want Word 97 only as a test -- if it doesn't solve my problems, I need

to
be
able to get rid of it easily and be able to simply restore Word 2003.

Any
recommendations??

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, Word 97 will run fine under Windows XP.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in

message
...
Thank you for the info, Suzanne.
I have had several cases where the text no longer fits within a

table
cell,
so I bet you are right. When I changed the spacing between cells

from
..03
to
.02, it fit OK. Unfortunately, I have hundreds of tables.
I wrote a macro using "Selection.Information" to show a MsgBox

with
the
exact position of the cursor in inches, points and twips. There

is a
small
difference. For example, at the end of a given line, the

measurement
from
the left edge of the page in Word 97 was 6.19514 inches (446.05

points)
and
in Word 2003, it was 6.29097 inches (452.95 points). Even less

than a
tenth
of an inch (or even a hundredth) can really make quite a

difference.
Interestingly, the distance from the top of the page was LESS. In

Word
97,
it was 6.36111 inches (458.00 points) and in 2003, it was 6.27361

inches
(451.70 points). This also doesn't explain why a word in another
paragraph
was moved up to the preceding line.

In fact, I haven't really tested this very much, but even the

macro
display
(which includes spaces to "columnize" the measurement text) was

different.

I am supposing there is no solution to this. I would prefer to

not do
so,
but I again ask whether Word 97 can be installed under XP. I can

imagine
this might cause a whole new set of problems and seems like going
backwards.

I really appreciate your ideas and advice.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I suspect there really was a change in metrics somewhere along

the
line.
I
don't remember whether it was between 97 and 2002 or earlier

that I
saw
this, but I know that I had a complex lease form that, when

opened
in a
newer version, was actually cutting text off at the edge. I

forget
whether
the problem was with table cells that weren't quite wide enough

any
more
or
right-aligned tab stops that had to be moved a hair in from the

margin
or
what, but it was very annoying.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in

message
...
Thanks, Suzanne. Unfortunately, that didn't help.
Maybe it is helpful if I point out that (I'm rough estimating,

not
counting)
about 60 % or so of the paragraphs are not a problem. This is
probably
because they are left justified and each line ends a

sufficient
distance
from
the margin. I guess that about 30% or so of the paragraphs

have
one
or
more
words that flow to the next line. Probably only 2 or 3% of

the
paragraphs
have (usually) only one or two words that flow to the

preceding
line
in
the
paragraph. This is rare.
Frankly, none of this makes any sense to me, since I verified

that
the
font,
font size and margins did not change.
Is there any possibility that Word calculates space between

words
or
from
the end of a line to the margin, even if the paragraph is
left-justified?
If
so, could their algorithms have changed? I'm really clutching

at
straws,
I
know.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You might also try selecting "Do full justification like
WordPerfect" in
Tools | Options | Compatibility. This usually compresses

justified
lines
a
bit.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote

in
message
...
Thank you, Graham.
In fact, the old printer driver (HP) is installed on the

XP
machine as
well
as a new (Canon) printer driver. I have switched back and

forth
between
printers, with "Use printer metrics" both On and Off.

While I
could
sometimes see very minor differences in the display, that

did
not
resolve
the
problem. And yet, a very small difference such as right

indenting
a
test
paragraph by -.05" solved the problem for that one

paragraph.
I
guess
I
don't really understand how Word uses the printer to

format
the
display
and
print.
I also tried to install the old Arial font after renaming

it
"OldArial",
but
Windows was smart enough to prevent it. I also took a

snapshot of
a
test
paragraph on both machines and viewed them at 10x zoom. I

didn't
see
any
differences in the pixels for each letter nor for spacing

between
letters.
It was just a guess on my part.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

This is nothing to do with any difference between the

file
formats
of
Word
97 and Word 2003 (which are effectively the same) but

with
the
fact
that
different printer drivers (and possibly different

releases
of
the
font
files) were used to create the documents. Word formats

according
to
the
current printer driver. You would have to have the same

printer
driver
(and
I mean the driver not the printer) and font outlines

present as
when
you
created the document in Word 97. Adding Word 97 to your

current
installation
will not affect the issue.
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TextReflow.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Charlie''s Word VBA questions wrote:
Can I install Word 97 in Windows XP? I have Office

2003
with
Word
2003 already installed.
However, I have many 97 documents that, when opened on

2003,
line
spacing and text formatting is sufficiently changed to

cause
many,
many problems. These are student workbooks with font

sizes
of
12
and
14 points. Words on a line flow to the next line

causing
paragraph/page overflow. Sometimes a word actually

fits
on
the
line
above. These documents contain a lot of formulas and
programming
code examples so formatting and spacing is very

precise
and
critical.
Even text forming formulas and program code in a table

may
overflow
resulting in misalignment of lines that must be

precisely
aligned.
I