Peter,
There is a difference between answering questions and offering opinions.
You did the latter. I assume it is because you don't know the answer.
What does that make you?
Back to point. If you don't know the answer it is ok to leave the question
to those that do.
The reason for trying to make that point, call if posturing if you like, is
that if you don't know that answer then there is no need in offering clearly
biased opinions or discouraging users from explorer, understanding, and
using the full capbalities of the application. Regardless if the questions
sits unanswered for two hours or two days.
I can't speak for Jay but I assume that he posted the link to the website
because despite its terrible shortcomings it at least provides an answer to
the OP's question.
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
I didn't. Unlike some MVPs, I didn't simply call it "QAT."
_Of course_ you are a teacher when you answer questions here. People
who know little or nothing about Word come here with specific
questions, and people provide specific answers. You are not giving
them a fish, you are teaching them to fish. (It would also be helpful
if reference to introductions to RibbonXML were offered, as opposed to
links to hypertechnical MS web pages that require all sorts of prior
knowledge.)
You refer to something called "RibbonXML." Perhaps it's a variant of
XML, but the very fact that it has a different name suggests it
involves something in addition to XML.
OP's question had been sitting there for nearly two hours and no one
had answered it. I provided more information than anyone else, and 20
minutes later, Jay gave the reference to your page -- without feeling
any need to suggest that my answer was incorrect.
May I remind you that the last time you decided to have a hissy-fit,
you subsequently went ahead and wrote some RibbonXML for me to put the
Table Borders button into the Table Layout tab. I did follow your
instructions, and have that button now, even though I had already put
it on my QAT and didn't really need it any more. So what's the reason
for your posturing?
On Aug 2, 3:38 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,
I make no claim to be a teacher good or bad. The page is what it is
and is provided at no cost for anyone that cares to read it and make
use of the material as they see fit. Plenty have with considerable
success. Despite all of its short comings, it certainly comes closer
to answering the OP's original question than your unsolicited
opinions.
Since you took the pains to point out that the OP was unfamiliar with
Word2007 I wonder why you then assume that he knows what the QAT is
or how to customize it?
"You can easily customize the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT)"
I suppose any novice can just as easily fly a jumbo jet accross the
country. But how? Easy, get in the cockpit and safely operate the
controls.
You also assume that since the OP is unfamiliar with the Word2007
user interface, he is also unfamiliar with XML. Why? He may have
written a book on the subject for all you know.
Back to point. If you don't know the answer it is ok to leave the
question to those that do.
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
A good teacher recognizes when his students are having difficulty
with the material, and pitches his approach appropriately. If
something is "beyond the scope of this page," then "this page" is
not suitable (i.e., is difficult) for someone not familiar with
such things as "a well-ordered hierarchical struture of
instructions," especially when that "well-ordered structure" can
only be discerned by "looking at it closely." (And that was only
the very first operation described.) It reminds me of the joke
about the mathematician giving a lecture who says, "And it is
obvious that ..." and rushes out of the room and returns half an
hour later and continues, "Yes, it is obvious
that ....."
Anmd the fact that OP calls the Ribbon the "menu bar" suggests that
he is not all that familiar with Word2007 and thus not at all
familiar with "RibbonXML."
On Aug 2, 8:54 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Once again you assume that the whole world marches to your drummer.
The user did not ask the group collectively or you specificaly for
an opinion on what is easier. He asked how to add tabs and commands
to the ribbon.
Once again you make statements not supported by facts. The word
"difficult" does not appear anywhere on the webpage in question.
Despite your inabilitity to comprendend, I have recieved several
dozens of feedback on the webpage indicating that it was just the
thing the person, many of them complete novices to XML, needed to
get started with ribbon customization.
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
My answer is perfectly correct. Your webpage to which Jay directed
the poster even admits that the programming is difficult, and
(sorry to say) your instructions are incomprehensible to anyone
who isn't very familiar with programming in that language -- "The
complete workings and writing of the RibbonXML script shown above
is beyond the scope of this page. However, I hope after looking at
it closely that you will see that it consists of a well ordered
hierarchical structure of instructions."
Whereas my suggestion to put the needed operations in the QAT is
much easier to carry out.
On Aug 1, 11:27 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,
Here's a tip. If you don't know the answer, it is ok to leave the
question to those who do.
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
You can easily customize the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT). You
could only customize the Ribbon if you were skilled in some
arcane sort of programming.
On Aug 1, 2:20 pm, Expando1
wrote:
I'm trying to customize a document template. I'd like to have
commands on the menu bar (File, Edit, View, Insert.., etc.)
that I can click on and which will be populated with
selections to auto-fill form fields in the document. I've done
this in Word 2003 but can't figure out how it's done in 2007.
In 2003, I right click on the menu bar, select customize,
select the commands tab, then under categories select "New
Menu" and drag it up to the menu bar...viola, done! How is
this done is Word 2007?
As a specific example, I'd like one menu command labeled
"Diagnosis" and another "Recommendations". The "diagnosis" tab
will have a list of selectable diseases which will insert into
the form when selected. Likewise for the "recommendations" tab.
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Greg Maxey - Word MVP
My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
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My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org-
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My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org-
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Greg Maxey - Word MVP
My web site
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site
http://word.mvps.org