[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

I think he once tried half heartedly. But rather than "roll up his sleeves"
and really try to learn something new, he quickly became frustrated and
started deriding the process and my attempts to explain it. To use his own
words, I ended up giving him the fish.

His last paragraph of the message to which you replied shows his
appreciation for that effort.

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Greg Maxey - Word MVP

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"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
My interpretation of that response, which may well be different from your
own, is that the answer is "no".

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
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Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
See last paragraph of the message to which you replied.

On Aug 2, 9:29 pm, "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"
wrote:
Have you tried customizing the Ribbon? It is NOT rocket science!

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Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
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I didn't. Unlike some MVPs, I didn't simply call it "QAT."

_Of course_ you are a teacher when you answer questions here. People
who know little or nothing about Word come here with specific
questions, and people provide specific answers. You are not giving
them a fish, you are teaching them to fish. (It would also be helpful
if reference to introductions to RibbonXML were offered, as opposed to
links to hypertechnical MS web pages that require all sorts of prior
knowledge.)

You refer to something called "RibbonXML." Perhaps it's a variant of
XML, but the very fact that it has a different name suggests it
involves something in addition to XML.

OP's question had been sitting there for nearly two hours and no one
had answered it. I provided more information than anyone else, and 20
minutes later, Jay gave the reference to your page -- without feeling
any need to suggest that my answer was incorrect.

May I remind you that the last time you decided to have a hissy-fit,
you subsequently went ahead and wrote some RibbonXML for me to put the
Table Borders button into the Table Layout tab. I did follow your
instructions, and have that button now, even though I had already put
it on my QAT and didn't really need it any more. So what's the reason
for your posturing?

On Aug 2, 3:38 pm, "Greg Maxey"



wrote:
Peter,

I make no claim to be a teacher good or bad. The page is what it is and
is
provided at no cost for anyone that cares to read it and make use of
the
material as they see fit. Plenty have with considerable success.
Despite
all of its short comings, it certainly comes closer to answering the
OP's
original question than your unsolicited opinions.

Since you took the pains to point out that the OP was unfamiliar with
Word2007 I wonder why you then assume that he knows what the QAT is or
how
to customize it?

"You can easily customize the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT)"

I suppose any novice can just as easily fly a jumbo jet accross the
country.
But how? Easy, get in the cockpit and safely operate the controls.

You also assume that since the OP is unfamiliar with the Word2007 user
interface, he is also unfamiliar with XML. Why? He may have written a
book
on the subject for all you know.

Back to point. If you don't know the answer it is ok to leave the
question
to those that do.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
A good teacher recognizes when his students are having difficulty
with
the material, and pitches his approach appropriately. If something is
"beyond the scope of this page," then "this page" is not suitable
(i.e., is difficult) for someone not familiar with such things as "a
well-ordered hierarchical struture of instructions," especially when
that "well-ordered structure" can only be discerned by "looking at it
closely." (And that was only the very first operation described.) It
reminds me of the joke about the mathematician giving a lecture who
says, "And it is obvious that ..." and rushes out of the room and
returns half an hour later and continues, "Yes, it is obvious
that ....."

Anmd the fact that OP calls the Ribbon the "menu bar" suggests that
he
is not all that familiar with Word2007 and thus not at all familiar
with "RibbonXML."

On Aug 2, 8:54 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Once again you assume that the whole world marches to your drummer.
The user did not ask the group collectively or you specificaly for
an opinion on what is easier. He asked how to add tabs and commands
to the ribbon.

Once again you make statements not supported by facts. The word
"difficult" does not appear anywhere on the webpage in question.
Despite your inabilitity to comprendend, I have recieved several
dozens of feedback on the webpage indicating that it was just the
thing the person, many of them complete novices to XML, needed to
get started with ribbon customization.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
My answer is perfectly correct. Your webpage to which Jay directed
the poster even admits that the programming is difficult, and
(sorry to say) your instructions are incomprehensible to anyone who
isn't very familiar with programming in that language -- "The
complete workings and writing of the RibbonXML script shown above
is beyond the scope of this page. However, I hope after looking at
it closely that you will see that it consists of a well ordered
hierarchical structure of instructions."

Whereas my suggestion to put the needed operations in the QAT is
much easier to carry out.

On Aug 1, 11:27 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,

Here's a tip. If you don't know the answer, it is ok to leave the
question to those who do.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
You can easily customize the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT). You
could
only customize the Ribbon if you were skilled in some arcane sort
of programming.

On Aug 1, 2:20 pm, Expando1
wrote:
I'm trying to customize a document template. I'd like to have
commands on the menu bar (File, Edit, View, Insert.., etc.) that
I can click on and which will be populated with selections to
auto-fill form fields in the document. I've done this in Word
2003 but can't figure out how it's done in 2007. In 2003, I
right click on the menu bar, select customize, select the
commands tab, then under categories select "New Menu" and drag
it up to the menu bar...viola, done! How is this done is Word
2007?

As a specific example, I'd like one menu command labeled
"Diagnosis" and another "Recommendations". The "diagnosis" tab
will have a list of selectable diseases which will insert into
the form when selected. Likewise for the "recommendations" tab.