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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

It probably does, it just isn't my habit.

I know I am out of step when I look at a mouse as a necessary evil, but here
is my problem, there is no order of keystrokes that I can learn now. So my
productivity will always be limited to the speed at which I can get back to
typing from picking up my mouse.

By and by...I read how this system is based on the statistics from Office
2003. Why would anyone do that? The majority of users were still on Office 97
2 years ago if they still aren't now. Not to mention, people like myself who
would never, and I mean never, choose to have my clicks counted and tracked.
Do we know the percentage of Office (not 2003, not XP, but Office) users who
did?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Ctrl+Z will also Undo, and that will still work, I believe.

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"Folstaff" wrote in message
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I kind of expect your answer, but here it goes: Are you more productive

with
the new menu system? Are you faster? Did you time yourself? I know why

they
dumb down the interface, but why do they have to drag the install base (at
least 80% of the users of PC's) with them?

I know the alt keys are in place, but it doesn't work the same. If I hit
Alt-E and enter, it does nothing. In 2003, it would undo. That isn't being
picky. I have been using Word, happily, since the first windows version.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access
data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is

painful at
best.
The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in 2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while (after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power users, but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view on what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training are the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see how you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took me a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists anything you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot of the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading though.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office

XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or

recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate

America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a

given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that

reception of
the new version is good.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Tom B" wrote in message
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Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If

a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate

corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has

an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will

have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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http://pschmid.net
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Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:

http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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"Tom B" wrote in message
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How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it

office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to

be
retrained.