The position of the icon affects the shortcut? Does that mean the hot key
for
the option changes based on what is seen?
On the QAT, yes.
Alt,1 (that is Alt followed by 1 - which is not the same as Alt+1 together
although Alt+1 together will work if it is not assigned to anything else) is
the hotkey for the first icon on the QAT, Alt, 2 the second one, and so on
up to Alt,9 then Alt,0,9 then - well, I'll let you look for yourself; the
prompts for keys when you press Alt are quite handy.
Shortcuts for items on the Ribbon are, as far as I know, consistent but
exactly what appears on screen depends on what will fit depending on screen
resolution and window size.
--
Enjoy,
Tony
"Folstaff" wrote in message
...
The position of the icon affects the shortcut? Does that mean the hot key
for
the option changes based on what is seen?
I hate customization b/c I wanted to learn where things were located. If
you
customize you can't help someone else as easily. I have helped people in
the
past by talking them through keystrokes over the phone. That sounds like a
lost procedure now.
"Tony Jollans" wrote:
There _is_ an order of keystrokes you can learn; it may not be the same
as
the one you used to use but there still is one with the only real quirk
being the QAT where the position of the icon affects the shortcut.
You no longer have the option to tailor your menu and have your own
accelerators so if you did that you have a problem. There is, though,
some
built in 'legacy support' and a good many of the old default shortcuts
still
work; several, however, don't and at least one does something different.
I
can't imagine this support continuing on indefinitely into future
releases
and you will have to bite the bullet sooner or later. Meanwhile Ctrl+Z
has
already been mentioned and Alt+Backspace also still works, or Alt+E, U,
...
or ...
... you can assign Alt+E and Enter to Undo. It will require a macro to
do
the customization and it will stop Alt+E working in other ways - but that
can be overcome with some more customization. The choice, for the moment,
is
yours.
--
Enjoy,
Tony
"Folstaff" wrote in message
...
It probably does, it just isn't my habit.
I know I am out of step when I look at a mouse as a necessary evil, but
here
is my problem, there is no order of keystrokes that I can learn now. So
my
productivity will always be limited to the speed at which I can get
back
to
typing from picking up my mouse.
By and by...I read how this system is based on the statistics from
Office
2003. Why would anyone do that? The majority of users were still on
Office
97
2 years ago if they still aren't now. Not to mention, people like
myself
who
would never, and I mean never, choose to have my clicks counted and
tracked.
Do we know the percentage of Office (not 2003, not XP, but Office)
users
who
did?
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Ctrl+Z will also Undo, and that will still work, I believe.
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"Folstaff" wrote in message
...
I kind of expect your answer, but here it goes: Are you more
productive
with
the new menu system? Are you faster? Did you time yourself? I know
why
they
dumb down the interface, but why do they have to drag the install
base
(at
least 80% of the users of PC's) with them?
I know the alt keys are in place, but it doesn't work the same. If I
hit
Alt-E and enter, it does nothing. In 2003, it would undo. That isn't
being
picky. I have been using Word, happily, since the first windows
version.
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs.
access
data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is
painful at
best.
The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release
Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in
2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by
hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and
you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while
(after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you
find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon
are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times
end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power
users,
but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view
on
what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I
think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous
Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training
are
the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see
how
you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took
me
a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not
wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life
easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists
anything
you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this
post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new
UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot
of
the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading
though.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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Office
XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or
recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate
America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions
for a
given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims
that
reception of
the new version is good.
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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office
2007.
If
a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate
corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that
has
an
acceptable ROI.
Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack
"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees
will
have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:
How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without
it
office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will
need
to
be
retrained.