To add to what Jay has said, you need to be aware that, regardless of your
settings, if you send a document containing markup, that markup *will* be
displayed if the recipient has "Make hidden markup..." enabled. As Jay
pointed out, the only way to ensure that markup will not be seen is to
remove it.

That said, however, if you have "Make hidden markup visible..." disabled,
then I would regard it as a bug if Word opens a document containing tracked
changes in a view showing markup.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Mark" wrote in message
...
I too believe I am having a similar issue. I would like to save a file
with
the track changes still within the document, but not visible to others
that I
send the file too. I have turned off the "Make hidden markup visible when
opening or saving" in the options/security box. I then turned off all of
the
boxes in the "Show" dropdown. I saved the file. I then reopen it and all
of
the boxes in the "Show drop down are back on and the comments and changes
are
visible again. Is this normal or should this process actually make the
changes invisible within the document? I understand that I can save a
file
after I accept all changes, but I prefer that I did not have to duplicate
the
document. If this process is supposed to work, is there a problem with
the
program? Thank you for any response to this issue.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Since I could never understand what the problem was and since Brian
never
sent me a sample document, there was no further development. But I don't
see
how you can tell that you're having "the same problem," since I never
could
understand what the problem was!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Juanita" wrote in message
...
Did this problem ever get solved? I'm having the same problem.
Juanita Londenberg

"Brian" wrote:

If you can e-mail me I can get you a copy of the document. I dont
want
to
put my e-mail address out in the open like this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Which suggestion? Have you disabled the "Make hidden markup
visible"
check
box? What exactly do you mean by "it will show me what the
document
used to
be"? In other words, are you actually seeing markup, or are you
seeing
a
previous version? I'm wondering if the document was saved using
versions or
if perhaps the markup was created manually (not using Track
Changes)
or if
there could be some other explanation. If we can't get to the
bottom
of
this, perhaps I can look at a sample document and see what is
going
on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Brian" wrote in message
news I am sorry I didnt mean to come off like an a$$ hole.

I can assure you that I have done the suggestion and the problem
has
not
been fixed. Everytime I open a document it will show me what the
document
used to be.

As far as just making new ones. I know that sounds like the
logical
choice
and I do do that now but these letter that I deal with are all
from
Years
before my time so I had no control over them being created or
re-used.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I think you're still missing the point. If the document had
been
modified in
the past without Track Changes turned on, these changes would
not
be
displayed. But you can still remove the markup by selecting
Accept
All
Changes in Document on the menu you get when you click beside
Accept
Change
on the Reviewing toolbar. The only way to be sure of not
seeing
markup
is to
remove it by accepting the changes.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Brian" wrote in message
...
That might work "if I WANT word to track my changes" You are
sugusting
a
fix
that is not addressing the problem.

I want to be able to open a document that had been modified
in
the
past
and
NOT, I repeat NOT see the changes.

It is something to do with Microsoft Word not the document
because if
I
open
the document turn off markup close the document (With a
save)
and try
to
re-open the document IT SILL SHOWS THE MARKUP.(I am not
trying
to yell
just
show emphasis)

Has anyone (who is offering sujestions) tried opening an old
document,
that
has been re worded a few times, to see what I am talking
about?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can open the document without showing markup in two
ways:

1. Clear the check box for "Make hidden markup visible
when
opening
or
saving" on the Security tab of Tools | Options (the
dangerous
way).

2. Remove the markup by accepting all changes (the better
way).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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to
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all may benefit.

"Brian" wrote in message
...
So what you are saying is there is no way to open a
document
and
NOT
SHOW
MARKUP?

This question has been posted on here about 5 times and
every time
the
question is not answered. I do not really care if past
versions
had
it on
or
not I just want to open a document and see the document
not
all
past
versions. The reason this is so aggravating is in my
job we
reuse
old
word
doc's for YEARS we have some (while showing markup)
going
back to
96.
I
do
not like having the inconvenience of having to hit view
and
unclick
Markup.

Can you set up a MACRO to do it since no one else can
figure
how
to
turn a
default setting off?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

You are confusing several different issues here.

'Protecting for tracked changes' is a setting that
locks
the
document so
that changes are tracked and the user can't turn it
off
from the
toolbar. It
isn't the same as just having tracked changes set 'on'
(so
any
changes
are
marked), nor is it the same as having changes
(insertions
and
deletions)
showing up in the document.

Word 2003 will by default open documents in the 'Final
showing
mark-up'
view
if there are tracked changes in the document (whether
or
not
tracking is
currently on, whether or not document is protected for
tracking). If
documents created in earlier versions of Word open
like
this,
then
it is
because you were (perhaps inadvertently) tracking
changes
at
some
time
in
the past, and you have never accepted/rejected those
changes.
Word
2003
has
a new view default here, but it doesn't turn tracking
(or
protection) on
and
it certainly can't generate revisions that weren't
already
in
the
document!
I assume the idea of the new view default was to alert
people to
the
revisions stored in their document to avoid
embarrassment,
though
from
the
posts here it often seems to ensure that Word 2003
recipients
see
changes
Word 2002 senders had forgotten about without even
trying
to
snoop
g.

The only way of removing changes in documents is to
accept
or
reject
the
changes. But if all you want to do is clean out the
revision
marking,
without any backtracking of the changes you've made,
you
just
turn
off
tracking (if it's still on) and 'Accept all changes'
(available
on
the
dropdown menu beside the Accept Change button) - you
don't
have
to
accept
each change individually. You can *view* the document
without
the
changes by
choosing Final without Markup, but that will leave the
changes
in
the
file,
and they will be visible on opening.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
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"CarolChris"
wrote
in
message

...
If it is not enabled by default, why then does a
form
created
in
an
earlier
version of Word and protected as a form (not for
tracked
changes)