Your quotation confirms that I told you exactly what I said I told you:
"Click on the Multilevel list button and then on the illustration that shows
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 linked to Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, etc."
Maybe you're seeing something different from what I see, but when I look at
the List Library, I see two pictures that have 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 numbering. The
top one just shows lines representing text. The one below that has text that
says 1 Heading, 1.1 Heading 2, 1.1.1 Heading 3 and so on. That is the one I
told you to select. When you apply that one to a Normal paragraph, the
paragraph becomes Heading 1 and is numbered 1. If you then click on Define
New Multilevel List and click More as described, you will see that the list
levels are linked to the heading styles.
While you could use this list for non-heading styles (by changing the styles
the levels are linked to), it will be more appropriate to use the other,
unlinked list and link the levels as desired.
FWIW, the List Library for multilevel lists in Word 2007 is (at the outset)
identical to the default Outline Numbered List gallery in Word 2003, which
also shows two versions of the 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 numbering, one of which is
linked to the heading styles. The heading numbering in Word 2003 works
exactly the same way (if you apply that list to a Normal paragraph, if
becomes Heading 1). The only difference is that you can select Customize
before closing the dialog, whereas in Word 2007 you have to click on the
Multilevel List button again and choose Define New Multilevel List in order
to customize the selected list.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
"Geodesic" wrote in message
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Many posts ago, I told you to select the 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 numbering that
showed
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc. I thought you had done that, and that's why I
said the numbering was linked to the heading styles by default. The lists
that are linked to (no style) are not meant to be left that way; you link
them to whatever styles you want to use for the list, such as the List
Number sequence (but those would not work in Outline view, I think).
This is just getting nowhere.
Actually "Suzanne S. Barnhill, MVP" didn't say that. Let's take a look:
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: 2/11/2010 11:07 PM PST
Click on the Multilevel list button and then on the illustration that
shows
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 linked to Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, etc. *Then*
click
Define New Multilevel List, which will open the dialog with that list
template selected.
This assumes that the link was already there, and you made no indication
that many 'outlines' are *by default* not linked! In fact you now seem to
say this is a virtue, and not a problem.
It is like you have now realized that the outlines levels are by default
not
necessarily connected to styles and you are going back to rewrite this
thread's history. I kept asking about the defaults and have been
complaining
the MS won't even put them on their site, or that interested MVPs won't
put
them on some auxiliary site. Having outlines broken *by default* means
they
need to be 'programmed' even the first time in order to work, a situation
that seems to favor having to pay for MVP's, or those who have the time to
get at the core of de facto programming Word.
If the average person searches the 'help' system, or visits the MS website
to ask about multi-level outlines, they are directed to making
'multi-level
lists.' Multilevel lists use the 'normal' style all the time, despite
using a
numbering and indent system. These multilevel lists look like multilevel
outlines, look like the most default outline of MS OneNote, but they
cannot,
for example, hide children elements, as a basic OneNote outline can (by
default).
As I quoted in the last note, you said,
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: 2/11/2010 11:07 PM PST
Click More to expand the dialog, and you will see that the levels are
linked to the built-in heading styles by default.
'By default'. Now you are saying many of these outlines have levels that
are in fact **not** linked to these built-in headers by default.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: 2/12/2010 1:37 PM PST
If you apply the 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 numbering to the built-in heading
styles,
then the heading styles will be numbered as you prefer (including
indents).
But in fact you are now saying that they aren't linked to built in
headings!
Further, the Shauna Kelly document has one making all kinds of changes to
the Heading Styles, but with a focus on Word 2003 and earlier. If one
starts
fiddling around with Headings as Kelly advises, then they will now longer
have 'built in' values, and since one cannot automatically go back to some
sort of 'default value' and the default values aren't listed anywhere (at
least that is what I asked for, and never got a response), then one might
have broken the outline system.
All this simply to create the most simple multi-level outlines in Word
2007.
So if I am to tell college students to use such outlines, MS believes that
they are going to have to also learn to program their outlines, make new
outline links, redesign the headings, etc. ... as preliminaries?
Now I asked:
how to set up new defaults, to link all the multilevel outline elements to
the corresponding multilevel headings, and I have gotten the run-around,
and
am even being attacked as being inattentive. Stefan Blom, MVP suggested
that
I should tell college students to create document templates for the most
basic outlines they want to write, but I promise you they don't always
know
what kind of document they are creating as they write their papers and
outline information. And what happens if they want to change their outline
type/style in the middle of the document?
So how to get rid of these broken outline formats in MS's Multilevel
list's
'List Library' and replace them with new formats that work. Interestingly,
if
one works to the 'define a new multilevel list' dialog and tries to link,
say, level 3 with heading 3, and one highlights level 3 as the level to
modify, and starts with the default '(no style)' at the top of the 'link
level to style' list, and then logically scrolls down through heading 1,
heading 1 to heading 3, the Word Software deletes the existing links
between
the 'list' and the heading format as one scrolls down. I guess the idea
is
that one isn't allowed to have the same 'heading' format to be assigned
with
different levels in the 'multilevel list'. Meaning as one scrolls down
with
level 3 highlighted of the left, running from 'no style', normal, heading
1,
heading 2, to 'heading3' then other levels that have heading 1 will now
lose
it (so no conflict), and so on. So it's no fun to have the built in
default
to be 'no style' as default. [so scroll via the scroll bar, not through
the
selections].
So after one comes up with a new style, after makeing the links, one saves
the document, opens a new blank document, and tries to invoke the new list
style one created via the 'define new list style' option... and the list
style one created is not there. Instead we still see the broken versions
that
MS supplies.
So the question remains, how to change the defaults of everything in the
library so that level 1 is linked to heading 1, level 2 is linked to
heading
2, level 3 is linked to heading 3, and so on. And once and for all, so one
doesn't have to keep programming in the links.