[roybaylis]

I'm with you John and I suspect so are thousands of users who have suffered
an avoidable loss of hours of work.
Your idea seems great to me!!!
May your tribe increase.
Roy

"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote:

Hi Beth:

Well, there were several design bugs in AutoRecovery. The first was that it
only operated if Word crashed. There was no way to recover from inadvertent
USER changes.

The other was that in the past, any given autorecover file contained only
PART of the document. You could never get the whole of the document and the
content was often out of sequence.

And there were no explicit instructions in the Help to enable an ordinary
user to find and recover their Autorecover file.

A decent autosave mechanism would save the document under a recognisable
name, in an advertised location, and keep at least a week's worth of data,
enabling the user to specify how long to keep data for, and to delete all
backups of a sensitive file on demand.

If they've fixed all that, I will stop complaining about it :-)

Cheers

On 17/1/07 11:53 AM, in article , "Beth
Melton" wrote:

I agree with Suzanne, Word has never had an option to automatically save a
file without using the SaveReminder add-in.

Additionally, I also have to disagree with you on how AutoRecover works. It
doesn't use a log file, it creates a Word document and saves it just like
any other document you would create and save. The document doesn't have to
be saved in order for AutoRecover to save an autorecover copy. It creates a
Word document each time the AutoRecover save kicks in but it's saved to your
AutoRecover folder with an *.asd file extension. From what I've been able
ascertain, it uses the same Save methods as when saving a document, i.e.
build temp file, delete original (for subsequent saves), move temp file to
orginal, delete temp file. The only difference is when you close the
document Word will automatically delete the AutoRecovery save version. It
may have worked differently in older versions, such as save only the
modifications, but this is how it works now. (Note I shouldn't say "now"
since I believe the AutoReover function has changed for Word 2007 - I'm
still investigating it.)

You can test this for yourself:

- Create a new document (do not save it)
- Wait for AutoRecover save (you'll see it in the status bar)
- Check your AutoRecover folder and file the file.
- Copy the autorecover file to another location (so Word doesn't delete it)
- Change the file extension to *.doc and double-click to open it (or open it
directly in Word)

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"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in
message ...
Hi Beth:

Yeah: Take it away! And bring back the old mechanism that used to work.

If we must, rename the useless one to "Change logging." Because that's
what
it does: it logs the changes to a file. But only if the file has already
been saved :-)

Cheers


On 16/1/07 2:55 PM, in article , "Beth
Melton" wrote:

The option was called AutoSave at one point then it was changed to "Save
AutoRecover information". Do you have a suggestion that could help make
it
more clear?

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"roybaylis" wrote in message
...
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!
To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail.
Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!!
Why don't Microsoft make this clearer?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There is no "autosave" in Word. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm

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Words into Type
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"roybaylis" wrote in message
...
I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1
minute.
Journal was switched off, so no joy there.
Any ideas?!
Thanks a million.
Roy






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