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Default word 2007 and grammar check

Greg & Suzanne,

I was not ignoring your advice. I am using the web to view these forums. I
just now found your additional replies to my problem. I have tried
everything with set language. I can get the issue corrected with document a,
for example. As soon as the user is emailed another document, the process
starts all over again. She runs grammar check, she gets prompted for
different language packs.

"Greg Maxey" wrote:

It is anonymous to the Mr. D and unless blind the person that made it has
seen it aired here several times. What is your point?

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
The observation was not "anonymous," and it's possible that the
person who made it (in a private, NDA-covered NG) might prefer not to
have it aired here.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in
message ...
Unless you insist on having the last word you should consider this:

"With Daniels, it is his belief in his own infallibility that is so
irritating. Even when obviously wrong he continues his arguments."

An anonymous observation proven over and over again right here in
this group.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
There *is* a default language. It is the language used in Word by
default, selected by clicking the Default... button after selecting
a language in the Set Language dialog. Unfortunately, it seems to be
easily influenced by the language selected as the default in
Windows. It will also be the default language for any document you
create in Word. You can set the language for that document (or any
portion of text in it) to some other language, but the one chosen
as the default will be the fallback.

On Aug 27, 4:22 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
No, the language of the document may differ from the language that
has been
set as the Word default, but the language of any given text is just
the language that is applied; there is no way to set the default
language of a given document: all you can do is select text (all or
some of it) and set a
specific language that will be applied to it. The language at the
insertion
point can vary, but it varies only from the text around it, not
from any set
standard for the document.

This is quibbling, of course, but I think that implying that there
is a "set" or default language for a document is deceptive because
a different language can ride in on a single pasted character and
spread like wildfire if you continue typing from that point.
Moreover, I'm not sure that these unwanted language settings can be
removed even by selecting text and pressing Ctrl+Spacebar (though
this *should* work); one must be constantly vigilant and
periodically select all the text and reapply the desired language
setting. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
Once you've set the language, it becomes the set language -- you
can watch the pot, but "a watched pot never boils." It's just a
quirk of the word "set" and a few others that the past participle
(adjectival) form is the same as the basic verb form.

The actual language of the document (for instance, English) can
differ from the Set Language of the document -- and you might not
notice until you type quotation marks and get guillemets or a pair
of commas
(French and German behavior respectively), or a (semi)colon and
get a nonbreaking space before it (French).

On Aug 27, 12:32 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:
I see you're choosing to ignore my advice about the syntax of "Set
Language." It is the same as "Set AutoShape Defaults," i.e., click
this button to set the defaults; use this dialog to set the
desired language.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
You can see the current Set Language in your status bar at the
bottom -- right-click on the status bar and turn on the Language
option (9th from the top).

Maybe the paragraph marks themselves are formatted with a
different Set Language?? Maybe there are some spaces at the ends
of paragraphs that are formatted with a different language??

(You do have Non-Printing Characters showing, don't you? Ctrl-
Shift-8.)

On Aug 27, 11:01 am, Justin Jayjohn
wrote:

Peter,

I tried your recommendations about see if some font within the
document
could be a different language. I did the ctrl F and followed your
instructions. The entire did not highlight. It did highlight
like a paragraph at a time. I did not see anywhere, anything
stating about what
language the font was. I was not sure if that meant all the font
was English. Did I do something incorrectly......

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
I can tell you at least that it isn't the font (unless
characters of some non-Roman font that's associated with just
one language have somehow gotten in). If you type a
Roman-alphabet letter with an accent
on it, even if it's associated with just one specific language
(and there aren't many of those!), Word won't assign a language
to it.

A way to check if some errant language has been assigned to a
bit of text is to Find your base language (English (US) or
whatever) -- Ctrl-
F, More Format Language -- click Find Next, and if the
entire document isn't selected, see what language it shows for
the first character after the end of the selection. Then that
would be a clue to
where the other language came from.

On Aug 26, 10:10 am, Justin Jayjohn
wrote:
All,

Thank you for the replies. At this point, all the documents are
written in
English. The documents are large contracts (several
pages....upwards
of 100
+). I was wondering if some font in the document could be
causing the
problem. Some of these documents could have been created with
word 2003 then
opened with word 07 modified and resaved. We tried taking a
document
that
was word 03, copied pasted into new word 07. We saved the
document then try
grammar check, got the same result. So how I can I get all our
machines to
open these documents correctly.

"Greg Maxey" wrote:

Justin,

The problem is mixed languages in the document. If those
languages
are not
enabled and available then you see those messages.

You can set the language to USEnglish or whatever by pressing
CTRL+A, blah,
blah but that action only addresses the languages in the main
text
of the
troublesome document. While perhaps unlikely, the offending
language set
could be in one of several other document layers (e.g.,
headers
or
footers,
textboxes, footnotes, etc.).

Then there is the possibility that you process hundereds or
thousands of
these documents. The laborious process of setting the
language manaully
could become very tiresome.

While scorned by some in this forum, you could always use a
macro.

Sub SetLanguageNailMeetsTheHammer()
Dim oStoryRng As Word.Range
Dim bSetLangUS As Boolean
bSetLangUS = False
For Each oStoryRng In ActiveDocument.StoryRanges
Do
With oStoryRng
If .LanguageID = 9999999 Then
If MsgBox("This is a mixed language document." _
& vbCr + vbCr & " Do you want to set the language to US
English?",
_
vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Mixed Language Detected") = vbYes Then
bSetLangUS = True
Exit For
.LanguageID = wdEnglishUS
End If
End If
End With
Set oStoryRng = oStoryRng.NextStoryRange
Loop Until oStoryRng Is Nothing
Next oStoryRng
If bSetLangUS Then
For Each oStoryRng In ActiveDocument.StoryRanges
Do
oStoryRng.LanguageID = wdEnglishUS
Set oStoryRng = oStoryRng.NextStoryRange
Loop Until oStoryRng Is Nothing
Next oStoryRng
End If
End Sub

The name of the macro is abritary. You could run it on
individual
documents
or include the script in an AutoOpen macro stored in the
template
so it
would run automatically whenever a document is opened.

Need help with macros? See:
http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Justin Jayjohn wrote:
I have a user that is having issues with grammar check &
word
2007.
She is having the issue related to contract documents she is
to
prepare etc. Every time she runs spell check on one of these
documents, she is getting the message a language pack needs
installed. One time it might ask for french, another time
brazil..
She gets these documents from several different users. I
even
loaded
one of the documents on my computer, ran spell check got the
same
message. I also sent this document to the rest of my team,
most
people were prompted for the brazil language pack. I
originally
tried removing the "detect language
automatically" option that was checked. I have found out
that
I
can
change this on one document. Another document can have this
box
checked. I performed the following trouble shooting to this
point:
-ran detect/repair
-ran chkdsk /f - to fix any file corruption
-defragged the hard drive
-installed office sp2 and updates
-completed reinstalled the entire Office 2007 suite

None of the above steps have worked to resolve this issue.
Does
anyone have any other ideas of what to try or what might be
causing
the issue?

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org