[Jim Perullo]

Just another voice in the noise of the crowd: I could definitely use more
levels - stopping at nine (9) is quite limiting for Bill-of-Materials work
and other logical listing purposes.

"J. Knoernschild" wrote:

Two things - one, isn't it Microsoft's responsability to include this
available option as they need to appeal to many users - and not just limit a
feature because only 60,000 people might need it out of 2 million. Second,
how can you customize styles or templates for automatic outlined numbering
greater than 10 when word is limited to 9?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I'm guessing that the need for more than 9 levels is rare. Most users seldom
need more than 4 or 5 levels, as most. Note that Word's built-in Heading
levels go only from 1 to 9 as well.

That said, almost anything is possible in Word if one is willing to invest
the time/money to setting it up. If your company routinely needs 12-13
numbering levels, and if they're committed to staying with Word, it would
make sense to develop templates that do this for you -- including styles,
tools and macros to make it transparent to the user.
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"J. Knoernschild" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

I strongly believe that Microsoft should come out with an update to fix
this. At Boeing we must write Performance Specifications all the time and
to
not have more than 9 levels is impossible to create a spec. Often times
are
specs go as deep at 12-13 levels.

I rely on the custom numbering schemes when writing a spec and not having
this feature limits my use of Microsoft Word. I must say that I am rather
disappointed in the reasoning for not making this list larger.

Thanks,

J

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Really the best place to pursue this inquiry is in the .numbering NG. The
regulars who post there know far more about numbering than I ever will. I
remain skeptical, however, that the functionality you're seeking was ever
available in Word.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"F. James Little" wrote in
message
...
Suzanne,

Thanks for the reply. I had actually thought of trying to nest the
lists,
but when I tried it, I was unable to get it to work... (I'm sure there
is
some trick to it.) When I tried, it would continue to treat the nested
list
as a continuation of the Parent list, and would not allow any further
indentations to occur.

A reply from Robert to this same question on the Word.Numbering forum
contained a link which may have offered a solution to the nesting
issue.
If
you know of a simple method using just the interface to nest list, I
would
love to hearit!

Thanks again for your help.

F. James Little
Sr. Software Engineer

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can have as many level of indents and bullets as you like because
there
is no issue with restarting numbering after a certain level. You can
apply
any bullet you like to any style you like with any indent you like.
You
could even, I imagine, have multiple outline-numbered lists (nested),
but
you can't have more than nine levels within a given list.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"F. James Little" wrote in
message
...
Graham,

I would have to disagree with you that an outline 9 0r more levels
deep
would be incomprehensible. I would think that it would be very
much
dependent upon the intent of the document and its intended
document.
In
the
particular case I am attempting to document the architecture of an
object
oriented software module by creating an outline of pseudopodia.
(This
to
be
accompanied by UML diagrams developed in Visio.) The logic of this
particular module easily goes to more than 20 levels deep, and this
is
not
a
particularly complicated module. To an audience of fellow Software
Engineers, I can assure you that the resulting pseudopodia outline
would
be
completely comprehensible.

In any case, I believe that setting the limit to 9 levels is
somewhat
arbitrary, and I believe that Microsoft should not place limits
upon
users
within its applications unless there is a resource limitation or
documented
requirement to do so. Given how buggy the numbered outline seems
to
be in
Word, perhaps it is in fact a resource limitation that forces the
limit to
be
9. It seems to me that earlier versions of the MS Word supported
more, if
not unlimited, levels when bullets and numbers could be set to
multilevel
prior to the advent of the specific numbered outline option. (The
numbered
outline may have been available in previous versions, but if it was
it
was
not the default as it is today; the simple bulleted format was the
default
which could be customized to multiple levels.)

If I am correct on the above, then this would seem to be a case of
lost
functionality. (A major, "your going to hell" sin in my industry.)
In
any
case, if Word is not going to support more than 9 levels, why then
does
customization dialog present the level selection in a scrollable
list
control
with all 9 levels visible in the list? The scrollbar is disabled
because
there is nothing to scroll to, but it is nonetheless there. If
there
was
not
the intent to support more levels, why then allow the scrollbar to
be
present
al all! It is very confusing to the user in that it gives the
impression
that
there may be a circumstance when the scroll bar may be active.
(Believe
me,
I have spent the better part of a morning looking for just such a
circumstance.) If the Microsoft Word development team did not
intend
there
to ever be more than 9 levels, then it would have been a simple
matter
through code to prevent the listbox from displaying a vertical
scroll
bar!
(I believe the vertical scrollbar is a holdover from previous
versions
where
more than 9 levels were supported.)

So, my question still stands... why does MS Word not support more
than
9
levels for a numbered outline list? Is it by accident, necessity
(a
resource
or design limitation), or design (there is actually some literary
authority
out there that dictates the number of levels within a numbered
outline
shall
be 9, and 9 shall be the number of levels within a numbered
outline!
10
is
right out!) (My apologies to Monty Python.)

Thanks!

F. James Little
Sr Software Engineer



"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Outlines more than four levels are difficult to read and the
province of
Government documents. A document with more than 9 levels would be
incomprehensible. What is your thinking here?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

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F. James Little wrote:
Is there any way to add more levels to a outline numbered list?