Outside of what? You can change the left and right indents to make your
header/footer margins wider than the page. If you are trying to put the page
number up in the middle margins, you can do it with a frame (still inserted
within the header/footer view). I put stuff, including fields, all over my
documents using headers and footers.
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Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
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See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Thanks, but y'see, using the header/footer bar, I can specify left or
right
justification, but not outside. Outside is an option only when using the
Insert feature. I'm formatting books and the first page of a chapter
could
be either odd or even numbered.

Unless you know where to find the "outside" option from the header/footer
toolbar...

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Using the header/footer toolbar is the recommended way to insert page
numbers in Word (although InsertPage Numbers seems to easy!).

Since you have "Different odd and even" enabled, you can position the
page number differently on odd and even pages (corresponding to the
"Outside" option in the Page Numbers dialog box).

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them
from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I
had to
center them - no "outside" option.