I made a test data file of three addresses (with an .mdb extension) and
tried to send it to you as a file attachment to a "reply group"-email but I
got the error message: "Windows Mail could not post your message. Subject
' won't print address on envelopes', Account: 'Microsoft Communities',
Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '437 (648)
Transfer Failed - Do Not Try Again -- The Article is too large', Port: 119,
Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 437, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9". How am I
supposed to send you the data?
Did you see my other reply that if I add an extra line of one English word
to an all-Hebrew address, it prints the whole thing okay?
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
...
OK, I think you've given me enough info. to try the same thing myself here
when I next have a chance.
If you want to send something it would actually be the data file that
contains your merge data (you have to save it at some point when you
create a new "address list" in Word, and in Word 2007 it will have a .mdb
extension.
--
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
...
Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press
Alt-Shift to change from one language to the other. When I send you the
test data, do you just want the Hebrew addresses printed out as if I were
typing an envelope on a typewriter, or do you want each bit of
information (first name, last name, address line 1, address line 2, etc)
under its appropriate column heading?
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
...
Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the
test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how
it prints in the address block? And what do you mean by the way I
usually create it?
What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew
addresses."
In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter how
you insert a character - you should end up with the same thing. But
that's not necessarily the case because Word (for example) does not rely
solely on the characters entered for its information about text
direction. It also records directional information.
I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may have a Hebrew
keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew text, I
either have to
a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my QWERTY
keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
b. use a virtual keyboard or
c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say) Windows
Character map one by one.
d. insert test data programmatically
Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may mean
that the data I save has differences from the data you save, and that
may result in differences in the way the data is handled when we merge.
FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but will try to pick
this up again after that.
Peter Jamieson
"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
...
Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send you the
test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the directory or how
it prints in the address block? And what do you mean by the way I
usually create it? I enter each field in the directory as it's labeled
on top of each column. Since that's probably not what you mean, what do
you mean?
the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers are
entered in Hebrew, without changing to English. My return address is
two lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although my return
address is not entered in the directory, so that might not have
anything to do with the problem.)
I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in English for
one of the addresses and another address with all lines in Hebrew.
Only the mixed address printed (and correctly) but the all Hebrew
address didn't print at all!
Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
...
I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other method
there was a possibility that the method that Word uses to get the data
might have got in the way.
It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data (i.e.
not real data) created the way you usually create it (because the
chances that I'll enter the data the same way you do are slim). You
can remove "KillMaps" from my e-mail and e-mail me some if you like.
It might help to know whether your addresses are all either Hebrew
characters or Latin characters, or whether some are mixed. If mixed,
is Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is each line a single
type of text? (Actually, it isn't so much the characters as whether
you are having to alter the direction of typing or not, e.g. to enter
digits. If you have various mixes is there any pattern as to what
prints and what does not?
--
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding. I didn't see your reply until just now. I
finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars aren't
clear in my mind right now but if I moved the Address box section on
the envelope (either to the right or to the left, I don't remember)
only the first few letters of each line of the Hebrew address
printed! I wound up having to enter the addresses manually and print
each envelope separately. The addresses did appear in the preview of
the merge, the also printed in the letters themselves. Besides being
somewhat old and not having such a good memory, I am close to being
computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you mean when
you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected
from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function)
with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout." I used
the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
...
Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?
If not, what is your data source?
Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
a. preview the merge
b. and/or use print preview
c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?
(FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both set up
for UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout (which uses
the Cambria font for both address boxes here, and using an Outlook
contacts list as the data source (selected from Word, not starting
with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in
Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard layout. Printing to an HP inkjet
(but not the same model as yours))
--
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk
"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
...
There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and they both
print okay there! I may have to address them by hand!
"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so, does it
print OK?
I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever had
anything to do with.
--
Hope this helps.
Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding! My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but it has
a color cartridge installed. I'm in Israel and some of the
addresses are in English and some are in Hebrew. I just realized
that only the Hebrew addresses don't print, the English ones
print fine. What to do?
"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in
message ...
Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the colour
cartridge installed? Some InkJet Printers create black for the
envelope address by mixing the coloured inks rather than by
using the black ink cartridge.
--
Hope this helps.
Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself
of my
services on a paid consulting basis.
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
...
Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge. The letters
printed okay but now, the next day when I'm trying to print the
envelopes, only the return address prints but the address for
the letter doesn't print. What should I do?