[Dr. Dave]

Could you tell me how exactly I would go about making a zipped file and then
how to send it by email. I have never done either one. I know next to
nothing about computers. thanks.
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
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The forum does not accept attachments - unscramble Peter's e-mail address
and send it to him (ideally zipped).

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Dr. Dave wrote:
I made a test data file of three addresses (with an .mdb extension)
and tried to send it to you as a file attachment to a "reply
group"-email but I got the error message: "Windows Mail could not
post your message. Subject ' won't print address on envelopes',
Account: 'Microsoft Communities', Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com',
Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '437 (648) Transfer Failed - Do Not
Try Again -- The Article is too large', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 437, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9". How am I supposed to
send you the data? Did you see my other reply that if I add an extra line
of one English
word to an all-Hebrew address, it prints the whole thing okay?
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
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OK, I think you've given me enough info. to try the same thing
myself here when I next have a chance.

If you want to send something it would actually be the data file that
contains your merge data (you have to save it at some point when you
create a new "address list" in Word, and in Word 2007 it will have a
.mdb extension.

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Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
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Since my Word 2007 is configured for Hebrew and English, I press
Alt-Shift to change from one language to the other. When I send
you the test data, do you just want the Hebrew addresses printed
out as if I were typing an envelope on a typewriter, or do you want
each bit of information (first name, last name, address line 1,
address line 2, etc) under its appropriate column heading?
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
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Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send
you the test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the
directory or how it prints in the address block? And what do you
mean by the way I usually create it?

What I reall mean is "do whatever you usually do to enter Hebrew
addresses."

In principle, you might think that it doesn't or shouldn't matter
how you insert a character - you should end up with the same
thing. But that's not necessarily the case because Word (for
example) does not rely solely on the characters entered for its
information about text direction. It also records directional
information. I'm not a regular Hebrew user. So for example, you may
have a
Hebrew keyboard. I don't. That means that in order to enter Hebrew
text, I either have to
a. enable a Hebrew keyboard in Windows and know which keys on my
QWERTY keyboard correspond to which Hebrew characters or
b. use a virtual keyboard or
c. emulate what you are doing by picking charcters from (say)
Windows Character map one by one.
d. insert test data programmatically

Whatever I do, it probably isn't the same as what you do. That may
mean that the data I save has differences from the data you save,
and that may result in differences in the way the data is handled
when we merge. FWIW I'm going to be offline for a few days now but
will try to
pick this up again after that.

Peter Jamieson

"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
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Excuse me again for being "computer illiterate" but when I send
you the test data, do you want it to be how I enter it in the
directory or how it prints in the address block? And what do you
mean by the way I usually create it? I enter each field in the
directory as it's labeled on top of each column. Since that's
probably not what you mean, what do you mean?
the Hebrew addresses are four lines, all in Hebrew, the numbers
are entered in Hebrew, without changing to English. My return
address is two lines of English and two lines of Hebrew (although
my return address is not entered in the directory, so that might
not have anything to do with the problem.)
I just made a test with two lines in Hebrew and 2 lines in
English for one of the addresses and another address with all
lines in Hebrew. Only the mixed address printed (and correctly)
but the all Hebrew address didn't print at all!
Thanks for pursuing this matter with me.
"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
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I used the Mail merge Wizard and clicked on Create A New List.

OK, that's what I needed to know. If you had used the other
method there was a possibility that the method that Word uses to
get the data might have got in the way.

It would be pretty helpful if you could send me some test data
(i.e. not real data) created the way you usually create it
(because the chances that I'll enter the data the same way you
do are slim). You can remove "KillMaps" from my e-mail and
e-mail me some if you like. It might help to know whether your
addresses are all either
Hebrew characters or Latin characters, or whether some are
mixed. If mixed, is Hebrew/Latin mixed within single lines or is
each line a single type of text? (Actually, it isn't so much the
characters as whether you are having to alter the direction of
typing or not, e.g. to enter digits. If you have various mixes
is there any pattern as to what prints and what does not?
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Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
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Thanks for responding. I didn't see your reply until just now.
I finished the mail merge last week, so all the particulars
aren't clear in my mind right now but if I moved the Address
box section on the envelope (either to the right or to the
left, I don't remember) only the first few letters of each line
of the Hebrew address printed! I wound up having to enter the
addresses manually and print each envelope separately. The
addresses did appear in the preview of the merge, the also
printed in the letters themselves. Besides being somewhat old
and not having such a good memory, I am close to being
computer-illiterate, so I don't really understand what you mean
when you say, "using an Outlook contacts list as the data
source (selected from Word, not starting with the Outlook
Tools|Mail Merge function) with data input in Outlook using the
Hebrew keyboard layout." I used the Mail merge Wizard and
clicked on Create A New List. "Peter Jamieson"
wrote in
message ...
Are you getting any Hebrew text through in any of your merges?

If not, what is your data source?

Do you see the Hebrew text in the Address when you
a. preview the merge
b. and/or use print preview
c. and/or output the envelopes to a new document?

(FWIW it works OK here using Word 2007 SP1, Vista SP1, both
set up for UK English, the default mailmerge envelope layout
(which uses the Cambria font for both address boxes here, and
using an Outlook contacts list as the data source (selected
from Word, not starting with the Outlook Tools|Mail Merge
function) with data input in Outlook using the Hebrew keyboard
layout. Printing to an HP inkjet (but not the same model as
yours)) --
Peter Jamieson
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
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There's both Hebrew and English in the return address and
they both print okay there! I may have to address them by
hand! "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"
wrote in message ...
Is the Hebrew font used in the letter as well and if so,
does it print OK?

I have to admit though, it is not something that I have ever
had anything to do with.

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Hope this helps.

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"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
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Thanks for responding! My printer is HP DeskJet 3920 but
it has a color cartridge installed. I'm in Israel and some
of the addresses are in English and some are in Hebrew. I
just realized that only the Hebrew addresses don't print,
the English ones print fine. What to do?
"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in
message ...
Are you using an InkJet Printer that does not have the
colour cartridge installed? Some InkJet Printers create
black for the envelope address by mixing the coloured inks
rather than by using the black ink cartridge.

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Dr. Dave" wrote in message
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Using Vista and word 2007, I'm doing a mail merge. The
letters printed okay but now, the next day when I'm
trying to print the envelopes, only the return address
prints but the address for the letter doesn't print. What
should I do?