[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Peter,

I will not be goaded into exchanging insults with you.

Back to point. If you don't know the answer it is ok to leave the question
to those that do.

Your opinions and your suggestion that the OP could only customize the
Ribbon if he were skilled in some arcane sort of programming was not a
"completely correct" answer to the OP's question.


Peter T. Daniels wrote:
I have work to do and do not have the time needed to master a
completely new discipline, computer programming.

I was quite surprised that, after you had been at least as nasty as
you were yesterday, you went ahead and wrote the addition anyway.

On Aug 3, 4:55 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
I think he once tried half heartedly. But rather than "roll up his
sleeves"
and really try to learn something new, he quickly became frustrated
and
started deriding the process and my attempts to explain it. To use
his own
words, I ended up giving him the fish.

His last paragraph of the message to which you replied shows his
appreciation for that effort.

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"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in
. ..



My interpretation of that response, which may well be different
from your own, is that the answer is "no".

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Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
See last paragraph of the message to which you replied.

On Aug 2, 9:29 pm, "Doug Robbins - Word MVP"
wrote:
Have you tried customizing the Ribbon? It is NOT rocket science!

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Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...
I didn't. Unlike some MVPs, I didn't simply call it "QAT."

_Of course_ you are a teacher when you answer questions here.
People who know little or nothing about Word come here with
specific questions, and people provide specific answers. You are
not giving them a fish, you are teaching them to fish. (It would
also be helpful if reference to introductions to RibbonXML were
offered, as opposed to links to hypertechnical MS web pages that
require all sorts of prior knowledge.)

You refer to something called "RibbonXML." Perhaps it's a variant
of XML, but the very fact that it has a different name suggests it
involves something in addition to XML.

OP's question had been sitting there for nearly two hours and no
one had answered it. I provided more information than anyone else,
and 20 minutes later, Jay gave the reference to your page --
without feeling any need to suggest that my answer was incorrect.

May I remind you that the last time you decided to have a
hissy-fit, you subsequently went ahead and wrote some RibbonXML
for me to put the Table Borders button into the Table Layout tab.
I did follow your instructions, and have that button now, even
though I had already put it on my QAT and didn't really need it
any more. So what's the reason for your posturing?

On Aug 2, 3:38 pm, "Greg Maxey"

wrote:
Peter,

I make no claim to be a teacher good or bad. The page is what it
is and is
provided at no cost for anyone that cares to read it and make use
of the
material as they see fit. Plenty have with considerable success.
Despite
all of its short comings, it certainly comes closer to answering
the OP's
original question than your unsolicited opinions.

Since you took the pains to point out that the OP was unfamiliar
with Word2007 I wonder why you then assume that he knows what the
QAT is or how
to customize it?

"You can easily customize the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT)"

I suppose any novice can just as easily fly a jumbo jet accross
the country.
But how? Easy, get in the cockpit and safely operate the controls.

You also assume that since the OP is unfamiliar with the Word2007
user interface, he is also unfamiliar with XML. Why? He may have
written a book
on the subject for all you know.

Back to point. If you don't know the answer it is ok to leave the
question
to those that do.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
A good teacher recognizes when his students are having difficulty
with
the material, and pitches his approach appropriately. If
something is "beyond the scope of this page," then "this page"
is not suitable (i.e., is difficult) for someone not familiar
with such things as "a well-ordered hierarchical struture of
instructions," especially when that "well-ordered structure" can
only be discerned by "looking at it closely." (And that was only
the very first operation described.) It reminds me of the joke
about the mathematician giving a lecture who says, "And it is
obvious that ..." and rushes out of the room and returns half an
hour later and continues, "Yes, it is obvious
that ....."

Anmd the fact that OP calls the Ribbon the "menu bar" suggests
that he
is not all that familiar with Word2007 and thus not at all
familiar with "RibbonXML."

On Aug 2, 8:54 am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Once again you assume that the whole world marches to your
drummer. The user did not ask the group collectively or you
specificaly for an opinion on what is easier. He asked how to
add tabs and commands to the ribbon.

Once again you make statements not supported by facts. The word
"difficult" does not appear anywhere on the webpage in question.
Despite your inabilitity to comprendend, I have recieved several
dozens of feedback on the webpage indicating that it was just
the thing the person, many of them complete novices to XML,
needed to get started with ribbon customization.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
My answer is perfectly correct. Your webpage to which Jay
directed the poster even admits that the programming is
difficult, and (sorry to say) your instructions are
incomprehensible to anyone who isn't very familiar with
programming in that language -- "The complete workings and
writing of the RibbonXML script shown above is beyond the
scope of this page. However, I hope after looking at it
closely that you will see that it consists of a well ordered
hierarchical structure of instructions."

Whereas my suggestion to put the needed operations in the QAT
is much easier to carry out.

On Aug 1, 11:27 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,

Here's a tip. If you don't know the answer, it is ok to leave
the question to those who do.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
You can easily customize the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT). You
could
only customize the Ribbon if you were skilled in some arcane
sort of programming.

On Aug 1, 2:20 pm, Expando1
wrote:
I'm trying to customize a document template. I'd like to
have commands on the menu bar (File, Edit, View, Insert..,
etc.) that I can click on and which will be populated with
selections to auto-fill form fields in the document. I've
done this in Word 2003 but can't figure out how it's done
in 2007. In 2003, I right click on the menu bar, select
customize, select the commands tab, then under categories
select "New Menu" and drag it up to the menu bar...viola,
done! How is this done is Word 2007?

As a specific example, I'd like one menu command labeled
"Diagnosis" and another "Recommendations". The "diagnosis"
tab will have a list of selectable diseases which will
insert into the form when selected. Likewise for the
"recommendations" tab.-

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