Wow Marg... comprehensive reply that shows some holes in my
understanding of List templates etc... I'll get my head around this
soon, and ponder your suggestions. Then again, I could bypass that, and
just try the html export suggestion of yours

Stuart.

On 17/05/2005 8:27 PM, Margaret Aldis wrote:
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Ummm, Suzanne, don't my first two tidbits confirm that I have done
that? The only diff I can see against Shauna's instructions is that my
H1 is based on Normal, rather than NoStyle.



If your styles are linked following Shauna's FAQ, so that each style is
linked to a level of the same numbering scheme, and if the numbering is
applied using the styles, then promoting/demoting list items other than the
first in a list should definitely change the style - so if that is not
happening either it's an indication that you haven't in fact managed to link
the styles correctly (e.g. by not working from the top level style
throughout), or that the numbering scheme that is applied is not actually
coming from the style but is a similar looking but non-linked outline
(direct formatting or possibly List Style), or that you have a corrupt
document.

Going back to your original post:


some other tidbits:
- the styles MyStyle_L1... MyStyle_L5 are all cascaded,
with MyStyle_L1 being based on Normal style.


Probably not significant, but I'd avoid cascading one numbered style from
another one. I suggest setting up a common unnumbered base, or possibly a
sequence of unnumbered bases for each of the levels (if you need the deep
cascade). Then derive each numbered style from the appropriate unnumbered
base.


- All these custom styles have the level-Style mapping
set the same, presumably because I set them up in
MyStyle_L1, and the rest are cascaded versions of this.


It's the linking in the List Template (numbering scheme) that ensures that
each style is linked to the correct level - the cascading adds nothing apart
from a bit of confusion. However, if you tried to edit the numbering of a
lower level custom style directly, you will make a link from the style to
the top level of the list - I just retested this in Word 2003 and find I now
achieve an otherwise impossible link from the lower style to *both* levels
by this method sigh. (Built-in headings behave differently - they always
link to their preset outline level.) Personally I would superstitiously
avoid even *looking* at the numbering from the lower level styles, because
there is always the danger of clicking "OK" instead of "Cancel", and anyway
the B&N dialog has some dirty habits g.


- due to this problem, whenever I want to pro/de-mote a
para to another level, I always re-apply the required style
to the para. I never directly indent the para.


I'd say that was normally the best and more logical policy anyway, as you
are then applying the numbering via the style, rather than Word applying the
style from the numbering. But as noted above, if the styles are correctly
linked and applied, promote/demote should work everywhere except the first
item of a list (where it will change the numbering format instead), so the
failure is indication of a problem somewhere.


- The doc was originally made up of a mish-mash of other
styles and direct format/numbering edits applied all over,
which I've now totally replaced with my custom styles, and
all appears to work well, other than this problem.


If you are certain that the current styles are set up correctly, then we're
left with minor corruption as the only possibility, and this background is
the likely cause. You can never remove List Templates completely from a
document. Try saving out to unfiltered HTML and reopening/converting in
Word, or pasting all bar the last para mark to a new document. I'd also
reset all the panes of the B&N dialog, exit and restart Word, to clear out
the Registry.


- The only difference I can see between my custom styles
and the default Heading1... Heading5 styles is that the
defaults aren't cascaded, and the level-style mapping
isn't done for all levels in all styles - just the
particular level for each particular style.


I don't know where you are getting this information from - default built-in
Headings aren't numbered, and if you use one of the standard B&N offerings
for Heading outline numbering you'll see they set up the linking at all
heading levels - indeed if this is not done you don't get correct number
restarting for lower level Headings. So I think you must be looking at an
incorrect/unusual set up in your own document history, where each Heading
has had its numbering defined separately?

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