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Old October 19th 05, 03:15 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Word 97 in Windows XP to maintain formatting

Yes, Word 97 will run fine under Windows XP.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in message
...
Thank you for the info, Suzanne.
I have had several cases where the text no longer fits within a table

cell,
so I bet you are right. When I changed the spacing between cells from .03

to
.02, it fit OK. Unfortunately, I have hundreds of tables.
I wrote a macro using "Selection.Information" to show a MsgBox with the
exact position of the cursor in inches, points and twips. There is a

small
difference. For example, at the end of a given line, the measurement from
the left edge of the page in Word 97 was 6.19514 inches (446.05 points)

and
in Word 2003, it was 6.29097 inches (452.95 points). Even less than a

tenth
of an inch (or even a hundredth) can really make quite a difference.
Interestingly, the distance from the top of the page was LESS. In Word

97,
it was 6.36111 inches (458.00 points) and in 2003, it was 6.27361 inches
(451.70 points). This also doesn't explain why a word in another

paragraph
was moved up to the preceding line.

In fact, I haven't really tested this very much, but even the macro

display
(which includes spaces to "columnize" the measurement text) was different.

I am supposing there is no solution to this. I would prefer to not do so,
but I again ask whether Word 97 can be installed under XP. I can imagine
this might cause a whole new set of problems and seems like going

backwards.

I really appreciate your ideas and advice.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I suspect there really was a change in metrics somewhere along the line.

I
don't remember whether it was between 97 and 2002 or earlier that I saw
this, but I know that I had a complex lease form that, when opened in a
newer version, was actually cutting text off at the edge. I forget

whether
the problem was with table cells that weren't quite wide enough any more

or
right-aligned tab stops that had to be moved a hair in from the margin

or
what, but it was very annoying.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in message
...
Thanks, Suzanne. Unfortunately, that didn't help.
Maybe it is helpful if I point out that (I'm rough estimating, not

counting)
about 60 % or so of the paragraphs are not a problem. This is

probably
because they are left justified and each line ends a sufficient

distance
from
the margin. I guess that about 30% or so of the paragraphs have one

or
more
words that flow to the next line. Probably only 2 or 3% of the

paragraphs
have (usually) only one or two words that flow to the preceding line

in
the
paragraph. This is rare.
Frankly, none of this makes any sense to me, since I verified that the

font,
font size and margins did not change.
Is there any possibility that Word calculates space between words or

from
the end of a line to the margin, even if the paragraph is

left-justified?
If
so, could their algorithms have changed? I'm really clutching at

straws,
I
know.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You might also try selecting "Do full justification like

WordPerfect" in
Tools | Options | Compatibility. This usually compresses justified

lines
a
bit.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in

message
...
Thank you, Graham.
In fact, the old printer driver (HP) is installed on the XP

machine as
well
as a new (Canon) printer driver. I have switched back and forth

between
printers, with "Use printer metrics" both On and Off. While I

could
sometimes see very minor differences in the display, that did not

resolve
the
problem. And yet, a very small difference such as right indenting

a
test
paragraph by -.05" solved the problem for that one paragraph. I

guess
I
don't really understand how Word uses the printer to format the

display
and
print.
I also tried to install the old Arial font after renaming it

"OldArial",
but
Windows was smart enough to prevent it. I also took a snapshot of

a
test
paragraph on both machines and viewed them at 10x zoom. I didn't

see
any
differences in the pixels for each letter nor for spacing between

letters.
It was just a guess on my part.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

This is nothing to do with any difference between the file

formats
of
Word
97 and Word 2003 (which are effectively the same) but with the

fact
that
different printer drivers (and possibly different releases of

the
font
files) were used to create the documents. Word formats according

to
the
current printer driver. You would have to have the same printer

driver
(and
I mean the driver not the printer) and font outlines present as

when
you
created the document in Word 97. Adding Word 97 to your current
installation
will not affect the issue.
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TextReflow.htm

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
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Charlie''s Word VBA questions wrote:
Can I install Word 97 in Windows XP? I have Office 2003 with

Word
2003 already installed.
However, I have many 97 documents that, when opened on 2003,

line
spacing and text formatting is sufficiently changed to cause

many,
many problems. These are student workbooks with font sizes of

12
and
14 points. Words on a line flow to the next line causing
paragraph/page overflow. Sometimes a word actually fits on

the
line
above. These documents contain a lot of formulas and

programming
code examples so formatting and spacing is very precise and

critical.
Even text forming formulas and program code in a table may

overflow
resulting in misalignment of lines that must be precisely

aligned.
I
have tried every option I can think of including all

compatibility
options as Word 6.0, 97 and 2003, with printer metrics turned

on
and
off. The only fixes I have come up with are doing things like
reducing font size by .5 point, setting paragraph right indent

by
even as little as negative .05 inches. But I would have to do

this
line by line or paragraph by paragraph. I spent nearly a week

just
finding (But not yet correcting) problems in ten documents.
I am considering installing Word 97 to solve this problem

(although I
am not sure it will). What conflicts will I encounter? Can I

keep
2003 and 97? Is there any other way to "freeze" spacing?








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