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Old October 20th 05, 08:56 PM
Charlie''s Word VBA questions
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Default Word 97 in Windows XP to maintain formatting

Your response that there was a change in metrics finally makes some sense to
me. However, one thing I just can't get past is this. If Word's metrics
make a line slightly wider, how can a word be moved UP to the preceding line.
This has really got me buggy. I have been working on several documents for
days and have a long way to go as this affects several dozen documents of
anywhere from 22 to 650 pages.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I suspect there really was a change in metrics somewhere along the line. I
don't remember whether it was between 97 and 2002 or earlier that I saw
this, but I know that I had a complex lease form that, when opened in a
newer version, was actually cutting text off at the edge. I forget whether
the problem was with table cells that weren't quite wide enough any more or
right-aligned tab stops that had to be moved a hair in from the margin or
what, but it was very annoying.

Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in message
Thanks, Suzanne. Unfortunately, that didn't help.
Maybe it is helpful if I point out that (I'm rough estimating, not

about 60 % or so of the paragraphs are not a problem. This is probably
because they are left justified and each line ends a sufficient distance

the margin. I guess that about 30% or so of the paragraphs have one or

words that flow to the next line. Probably only 2 or 3% of the paragraphs
have (usually) only one or two words that flow to the preceding line in

paragraph. This is rare.
Frankly, none of this makes any sense to me, since I verified that the

font size and margins did not change.
Is there any possibility that Word calculates space between words or from
the end of a line to the margin, even if the paragraph is left-justified?

so, could their algorithms have changed? I'm really clutching at straws,


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You might also try selecting "Do full justification like WordPerfect" in
Tools | Options | Compatibility. This usually compresses justified lines


Suzanne S. Barnhill
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"Charlie''s Word VBA questions"
m wrote in message
Thank you, Graham.
In fact, the old printer driver (HP) is installed on the XP machine as
as a new (Canon) printer driver. I have switched back and forth

printers, with "Use printer metrics" both On and Off. While I could
sometimes see very minor differences in the display, that did not

problem. And yet, a very small difference such as right indenting a

paragraph by -.05" solved the problem for that one paragraph. I guess

don't really understand how Word uses the printer to format the

I also tried to install the old Arial font after renaming it

Windows was smart enough to prevent it. I also took a snapshot of a

paragraph on both machines and viewed them at 10x zoom. I didn't see

differences in the pixels for each letter nor for spacing between

It was just a guess on my part.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

This is nothing to do with any difference between the file formats

97 and Word 2003 (which are effectively the same) but with the fact

different printer drivers (and possibly different releases of the

files) were used to create the documents. Word formats according to

current printer driver. You would have to have the same printer

I mean the driver not the printer) and font outlines present as

created the document in Word 97. Adding Word 97 to your current
will not affect the issue.


Graham Mayor - Word MVP

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Charlie''s Word VBA questions wrote:
Can I install Word 97 in Windows XP? I have Office 2003 with Word
2003 already installed.
However, I have many 97 documents that, when opened on 2003, line
spacing and text formatting is sufficiently changed to cause many,
many problems. These are student workbooks with font sizes of 12

14 points. Words on a line flow to the next line causing
paragraph/page overflow. Sometimes a word actually fits on the

above. These documents contain a lot of formulas and programming
code examples so formatting and spacing is very precise and

Even text forming formulas and program code in a table may

resulting in misalignment of lines that must be precisely aligned.

have tried every option I can think of including all compatibility
options as Word 6.0, 97 and 2003, with printer metrics turned on

off. The only fixes I have come up with are doing things like
reducing font size by .5 point, setting paragraph right indent by
even as little as negative .05 inches. But I would have to do

line by line or paragraph by paragraph. I spent nearly a week just
finding (But not yet correcting) problems in ten documents.
I am considering installing Word 97 to solve this problem

(although I
am not sure it will). What conflicts will I encounter? Can I

2003 and 97? Is there any other way to "freeze" spacing?