Hi Grey Dingo
Try this test to explain some of the things that are going on:
1. Create a new document and in that document create a 1-row, 1-column
table.
2. Paste the text of that website into the cell using Edit Paste Special
Unformatted text. No matter what I do, I get a word count from Word of 5,848
words.
3. Put a few hard returns after the table, and create a new 1-row, 1-column
table. In that cell type one word (eg "dingo") and then do ctrl-Shift-L to
apply the List Bullet style.
4. Observations:
(a) If I select just the "dingo" text I get 2 words (one for the dingo and
one for the bullet).
(b) If I select the whole "dingo" cell I get a word count of 5,850. That
might explain the very large differences observed in your earlier posts.
For some final amusement, note that if you get Word to do a count of the
whole document, it does not count words in headers, footers, text boxes or
other shapes.
By the way, the following might help, depending on your needs:
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/Comp...unt/index.html
Hope this helps.
Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
"Grey Dingo" wrote in message
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Hi Bob and Jean-Guy,
I am using Word 2003 SP1.
I created a one-cell table in Word and copied the 10 paragraph lorem ipsum
generated in HTML format then pasted it into the cell using Edit/Paste
Special/HTML. I then Word Counted using whole cell select and cursor
select
(which does not include the End of Cell Marker). The counts were identical
in
every respect.
I then used Edit/Paste Special/Unformatted from the HTML original. The
counts were identical in every respect to the previous test for both
methods
of selection, except for the Number of Characters with No Spaces, which
was
one character less than the "Pasted as HTML" version, with both methods of
selection.
I could generate a table which summarizes the results in a Word or Excel
document. It is confusing!
Here is a link to a Web page that I copied and pasted as unformatted text
into my fairly complex table (certainly far from a single cell). Doubting
my
sanity, I Word Counted again, using whole cell selection and cursor
selection
of the text. The results, once again, were very different.
http://www.forensic-psych.com/articles/artCaptive.html
I would be happy to share the Word file if you would like to try it for
yourselves.
Thanks a million!
Graeme
"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
Hi Graeme,
What version of Word are you doing (from help=about)
If you create a new Word document and add a 1 cell table then
paste from a web page into that cell do you get this result?
If you go to http://www.lorem-ipsum.info/generator3
and generate 10 paragraphs of "Standard Lipsum"
and paste into the table cell as unformatted text do you
get the same disparity with the two methods you're using
to check?
If not, do you have an URL where you select text that
shows the large differences?
Are you pasting using Edit=Paste special and using the
plain Unformatted Text setting?
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"Grey Dingo" wrote in message
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Bob and Jean-Guy,
I paste text from other Word documents, Web sites, or PDFs into a cell of
a
Word table, using Paste Special/Unformatted Text. I select the entire
area of
the cell by finding the small black arrow just inside the left border of
the
cell, then select it. I then click Tools/Word Count.
In a document I am working on, for example, the Word Count is 1,178,
there
are 6,996 characters with no spaces, 8,103 characters with spaces, 71
paragraphs, and 183 lines. Using the Word Count toolbar gives the same
number
of Words.
If I then select the text, by dragging over it, the Word Count is 1047
words, 6,217 chars no spaces, 7,244 chars with spaces, 19 paras, and 100
lines. The End-of-Cell Marker is not selected, but clearly the difference
is
more than 1.
I write synopses of many documents, in Word Table template, reducing
documents to an exact number of Words. It is simple more convenient to
select
the whole cell for my frequent checks on number of Words.
Thank you for your interest .
Remerciement.
Graeme Roberts aka Grey Dingo
--
Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*