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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

I'll try to avoid whining publicly, but I'm willing to bet there will be
some private moaning and gnashing of teeth. g

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Dan Freeman" wrote in message
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*You* whine!?!?!?!?! Say it ain't so!

LOL

Dan

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
While I agree that a customizable ribbon or tab would be helpful, it
has been pointed out that you can create a specialize QAT for a
specific template. Don't think, however, that I am in any way
defending the loss of customizability. I haven't yet "upgraded" to
Office 2007, but I'm going to be one of the loudest whiners when I
do, as I have highly customized my Word 2003 UI (with some
customizations probably dating back to Word 2.0).

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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Paul

I agree: the current implementation makes it harder for all and I
cannot see what the long-term advantages are to anyone that the
Ribbons are locked down so tightly.

What I would like to see is the ordinary user being able to create
their own 'Home' Ribbon that can be tied in with a template. On this
ribbon, the user can add whatever groups they want from any of the
other standard ribbons and remove/change the contents of these
groups. For example, my Home ribbon would remove the Clipboard group (a
real
waste of screen space), remove much of the Font and Paragraph group
tools (but adding a few more useful tools) and thus making loads
more space for styles.

Terry

"Paul Gauci" wrote in message
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OK - but how about the needs of companies (large and small) who use
customised styles/templates/toolbars/icons etc to standardise the
presentations of letters, reports, etc?

For instance, when such companies work with outsiders (say, when
they outsource), all they had to do with 2003 was to provide their
sub-contractors
with their customised templates/toolbars/icons etc and save
considerable time
and energy on post writing-up formatting.

Also, freelancers who work/ed for different companies using their
clients'
customised templates/toolbars/icons can/could be very efficient
when 2003 customisations are/were well designed. It appears to me
that they will have
problems being as efficient with 2007.

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Paul Gauci


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

No, but that would be why customization would make it difficult to
support.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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I see. So we dumb down Word to help the helpers?

Terry

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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Because the help desk person is not looking at the same screen
the user
is, so the user is referring to buttons and menu items the IT
person may
not even be aware exist, much less have in his UI.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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Gordon

I'm not sure why this should be a support nightmare. If you use
roaming
profiles, surely, the customisations stay with the user. So if
I log into any computer on the network, I get My Profile with
My Desktop displayed and in Word I will see all my toolbars as
I want to use them.
Why is that a support nightmare?

Terry

"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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In previous versions, I always modified the Toolbars. Many of
the tools I never used (such as cut, copy, past, bold, italics
underline,
etc.) I always dragged off and added useful tools that were
hidden (such as ParaPageBreakBefore, Doc Properties, File
New... and custom
macros, etc.).

I always like that there were always so many different ways to
work in
Word that allowed users to customize and work in a way that
suited themselves and their principal tasks. To me, much of
this choice seems
to have been removed. I was privileged to be shown demos of
the proposed Ribbon before it went beta and was enthusiastic
as I could
see that so many more commands could be made available for
users, rather than having to dig deep to find the hidden nest
of tools available. But I wasn't aware of how rigid the
Ribbon was to be until
beta testing started. I was deeply disappointed and I still
am. And I
will remain disappointed until the Ribbon is user customizable
out-of-the-box.

Terry

I hear what you say, but from a support perspective in a
commercial environment, a User customising ANYTHING on an
individual basis turns
into a support/helpdesk nightmare.....