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Geoff
 
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Default Tab at 0.63 cm

Shauna,

Many thanks for your reply.

The Bullets & Numbering Dialog:

It makes no difference whether I enter the above dialog from
Format Style Modify Format Numbering or from Format
Bullets & Numbering. When I click OK in the above dialog, a tab
stop appears at 0.63 cm in the paragraph style attached to
outline numbering level 1. I don't want this tab stop because
my indents and tab stops are already defined in the styles
attached to each outline numbering level.

Compatibility Option:
"Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent"

I have tested my document with, and without, this option
selected. The same problem (described above) manifests itself
whenever the OK button is clicked in the "Bullets & Numbering"
dialog.

To be clear, my document does not contain bullets, but outline
numbering. I only drew attention to bullets because 0.63 cm is
the default tab stop for bullets and somehow this same tab stop
is finding its way into my paragraph style for outline numbering
level 1.

I'm beginning to think there is no solution to this problem.

Geoff

"Shauna Kelly" wrote
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Hi Geoff

Two things to consider.

1. Format "Bullets & Numbering" is never a good idea if you

want to get
control over your bullets. Use styles, and modify the style.

2. At Tools Options Compatibility, check to see if the box

"Don't add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent" is ticked. Note that

this is a
per-document setting.

By the way, 0.63cm is the default tab setting for bullets.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"Geoff" wrote in message
...
"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
Geoff wrote:
Word 2000:

When I copy a section of Doc1 into a blank Doc2, a tab

stop
appears in every paragraph of Doc2 at 0.63 cm. This tab

stop
did not exist in Doc1. (The paragraphs are outline

numbered, if
this makes any difference.)

Why does this tab stop appear?
How can I prevent it from appearing?
Why does Find&Replace not find a tab stop at 0.63 cm and

replace
it with nothing?

TIA
Geoff

As for why the tab stop appears, presumably it's part of

the
numbered style
in Doc2. The whole issue of what happens to formatting when

you copy from
one document to another is a swamp, but these articles may

help to explain
it:


http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...xtChanges.html


http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html

Find&Replace can't do anything about tab *stops*; it can

replace only tab
*characters*. To remove the tab stop, you'll have to modify

the style and/or
the outline numbering definition.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org



Jay,

Many thanks for your reply.

The 0.63 mm tab stop was not part of the numbered style in

Doc2.

I have read the Shauna Kelly articles. I notice that the
"Bullets and Numbering" dialog (in Word 2000) and the
"Customised Outline Numbered List" dialog (in Word 2002 and
2003) override the styles attached to the numbering levels.

My document did link a different paragraph style to each

outline
numbering level. I imported the styles into Doc2, before
pasting in the text from Doc1. So the issue wasn't with

styles,
but with the numbering dialog.

The Word 2000 Format "Bullets & Numbering" dialog does not
allow the user to set the position of the tab stop after the
outline number (unlike Word 2002 and 2003).

My paragraph styles start life without tab stops. Then,
when I enter and exit the Format "Bullets & Numbering"

dialog,
the paragraph style for level 1 contains a tab stop at 0.63

mm.
This is the default tab stop after a bullet - ie if I put a
bullet on a paragraph, the bullet is at 0.2 mm and the

following
tab stop (and text) is at 0.83 mm, the difference being the
magic 0.63 mm. Therefore, the numbering dialog is changing

the
style with this default Word setting.

I can go into the level 1 style and remove the tab stop and

the
document will reformat itself OK. But, whenever I go into

the
numbering dialog, the document goes out of kilter again.

Perhaps that's why the later versions of Word allow the user

to
specify the tab stop in the "Customised Outline Numbered

List"
dialog.

I shall read the additional MVP material soon and see if

that
helps. Otherwise, I shall have to keep doing battle or

upgrade.

Incidentally, how would I search for a tab character? The
Format button in the Replace dialog seems only to permit
searching for a tab stop (but then the search fails to find
anything). Also, Ctrl-Tab doesn't enter a tab character.

Thanks again for the leads. I thought you might like to

know
where they took me.

Geoff