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Default If not Master Document, then what?

In all cases, the next page section break is converted to a continuous
section break. It doesn't matter what combination of continuous versus next
in either the source of destination; once I insert a INCLUDETEXT field,
insert a next page section break, then at some point update the field, the
next page section break is converted to a continuous.

I have studied the document on the other end of the link you provide at
great length. The recommendation is putting a continuous section break at
the end of each source document; which I've tried. I've also tried a
continuous section break at the beginning AND end of each source document --
all with the same results - once the field inthe destination document is
updated the next page section break is converted to a continuous.

I guess at this point having to re-enter the next page section break is
lesser of the two evils. The alternative would be having to do Insert...File
each time the source document is updated.

Geez, I really wish there was a workaround to this. Are there are Microsoft
reps around that could offer some insight?

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

I'm afraid I really don't know. I largely tested it with just next page
section breaks in the destination document between each IncludeText
field, and no continuous breaks anywhere.

Can you see what happens if you don't have that continuous section break
there are all? Is the Next Page break actually being deleted, or
converted to continuous?

I think this link will help illuminate what Word is doing and maybe
offer some things to test:
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...thSections.htm

Deb wrote:
Thanks, Daiya. This solved the problem. The only one left has to do with
Word deleting my Section Break Next Page that separates each inserted
document each time I update the IncludeText field. The destination file has
a Section Break, Next Page and looks like this:

=====Section Break (Continuous)======
=====Section Break (Next Page)======
{INCLUDETEXT ....}

For purposes of this posting, the ellipsis here are in place of my full path.
After updating the IncludeText field, my file looks like this:
=====Section Break (Continuous)======
=====Section Break (Continuous)======

thereby deleting my forced page breaks separting the inserted documents.
I have tried it with having the source files begin with a Continuous Section
Break and without a Continuous Section Break. In either case the Next Page
Section Break is deleted each time I update the field.

Geez, I hope there is a solution to this. THis INCLUDETEXT feature is
EXACTLY what I need.


Thanks.


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:


A guess, but this might apply:
"If you use the InsertField method to create the IncludeText fields,
Word will automatically add a \* MergeFormat switch to the field. In
most cases, you do not want this switch and will need to delete it. The
\* MergeFormat switch will change the original formatting of your
included text. Help offers more information about this switch. [Thanks
to newsgroup poster Chip Orange for this tip]"

Deb wrote:

Nothing tere, unfortunately. Hopefully, someone else will post who has
experienced this problem.

Thanks!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I have no experience with this, but you might see if there are any helpful
tips at http://daiya.mvps.org/includetext.htm

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Deb" wrote in message
...


Suzanne:

I have experimented with this field and find that the resulting formatting
is inconsistent at best. For example, if I'm inserting a file that begins
with Heading 1 style followed by a body style, sometimes the files are
inserted with the body style being replaced with the Heading 1 style or


vice


versa. It's all very inconsistent and erratic.

Are there any "best practices" to follow when using this field to avoid


the


resulting unformatting of the final document?

Thanks for your help.

"Deb" wrote:



Interesting. I have never used that field before. In experimenting


with it,


I keep getting the error: Error! Not a Valid Filename. The file will


always


be in the same directory as the file in which the FIELD will reside, so


I am


just entering the filename as filename.doc.

Now how does this differ from Master Document? The Help feature


indicates


you can also push updates back to the source file by using the Ctrl +


Shift +


F7 keystroke.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Hasn't IncludeText already been suggested?

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Deb" wrote in message
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But what about re-use? The content of the large document is really


smaller


documents that needs to be re-used across multiple large documents.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Just create a single large document.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Deb" wrote in message
...


So, I concede that the Master Document feature is a risk. So,


what is


the


alternative to create a large document based on many small


documents?