[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

"Publisher is a cheapie "toy" page-layout program"?

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in
message ...
Graham is struggling to get you to read what he is writing... I will try
a
different way, but I have a feeling that "there are none so deaf as those
who will not hear..."

Word will not import Publisher documents. Because THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS
DESIGNED.

Please try to understand that Publisher is a cheapie "toy" page-layout
program that was built down to a price. The idea was to make an
affordable
program that would enable home users to do basic publishing.

Word and Publisher can produce files that look and print almost exactly
the
same. But the internal binary representation is utterly different,
because
of the different purposes the two bits of software have when they come to
work on that file.

To use an analogy, it's as if you were creating an advertisement for
different countries. You might express one in English for use in America,
and advertise the same product in Arabic for use in Iraq. The intended
audience would understand the same thing from each advertisement, but the
ads would look completely different.

High-end publishing programs such as are used to make magazines and
newspapers contain programs to translate the internal structure of one
file
type into their native structure. But these translators are large and
expensive programs.

Microsoft had to make a choice: Sell Publisher for $99.00 without
translators, or for $850.00 with translators. They chose to produce the
cheap version, figuring that would suit the majority of customers.

If you have the $850.00 to spend, go buy Adobe Creative Suite 2 and you
will
not have the problem. If you don't want to spend that much, then you
either
insert your publisher file into Word as a graphic, or you can't insert it
into Word.

Graham suggested that you might re-draw the thing in Word. Word has a
more
advanced version of the same drawing tools in it that Publisher has.
That's
what I would do too.

Otherwise: Sorry! The programs are incompatible. Oh: and NEITHER of them
are "part of the Windows XP system". Windows XP is an operating system
that
does not include any applications at all. Word is a member of the Office
System. Publisher is a member of the Consumer Applications bundle.

The That's about as clear as I can make it :-)

Cheers

On 15/1/07 11:01 AM, in article
, "apb"
wrote:

To Graham Mayor,
I still can't understand how Microsoft 'Word' and Microsoft 'Publisher'
can
be INCOMPATIBLE. They are both part of my Windows XP system. I could
understand if one was Apple and the other Microsoft, but both being
Microsoft
programs it just doesn't make sense to have two INCOMPATIBLE PROGRAMS on
the
same system!

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

You are clearly not reading what has already been posted. PUBLISHER AND
WORD
ARE INCOMPATIBLE!!!!!
If you can't change the pasted version to a facsimile of what you had in
Word then end of story.
By a proper graphics application I mean something like Photoshop or one
if
its cheaper clones. Something that allows you to create the graphics
that
you want to put on your letterhead. Then see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


apb wrote:
I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes
up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original
with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the
first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and
in what program?

apb


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this.
You have a few options.
1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to
mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else.
2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and
hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them
in Publisher.
3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and
insert the results into Word.

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


apb wrote:
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a
graphics
program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into
a Word
doc.

I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the
letterhead in the
first place?

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"apb" wrote in message
...
I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem
to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that
I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How
can I do this?

I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can
you do that in word?




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