If you apply the 1, 1.1, 1.1.1 numbering to the built-in heading styles,
then the heading styles will be numbered as you prefer (including indents).
Keep in mind that it is still necessary to do this all at once for all the
styles, starting from the first Heading 1 in the document (see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html for general
principles). You can then apply the heading styles to achieve the desired
outline and Promote/Demote as desired.
There's no reason you can't still use Free Agent to access these NGs; just
configure it to access the msnews.microsoft.com server. If you are more
comfortable with an NNTP newsreader, I would highly recommend it. You will
see the same NGs you see here (the Web page is just a front end to Usenet).
I mentioned Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail because they are readily
available to Windows/Internet Explorer users. OE was not designed as a "free
version of Outlook"; Outlook is not a newsreader, whereas OE is both a mail
client and a newsreader. It is possible to set Outlook up to use OE as its
newsreader.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
"Geodesic" wrote in message
...
I can't tell if my messages are going through. When I tried to post I get
the following error message:
The website is too busy to show the webpage HTTP 408/HTTP 409. What you
can try: Refresh the page. / Go back to the previous page. / More
information. This error (HTTP 408 Request Timeout or HTTP 409 Conflict)
means that the server took too long to display the page or there were
too many people requesting the same webpage. / For more information
about HTTP errors, see Help.
Originally I thought this meant that the posting had gone through, but
that
the site update would take time because there was too much traffic. But
then
I let an hour go by and I still don't see the posting, I don't see that
Microsoft has a discussion group about the problems with their own
Microsoft
office on line discussion group software. But then that would recursively
a
problem since how do you post about a posting problem.
Original Response.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
If you use an NNTP newsreader such as Outlook Express or Windows Live
Mail
to read these newsgroups in Usenet, you'll doubtless find posting (and
finding your posts) much easier. See http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm
I really don't know much about Outlook Express or anything about Windows
Live Mail. Because of compatibility issues with my telephone and
office/academic software, I finally migrated to Outlook 07 about a year
ago.
I know that Outlook Express evolved from a newsreader of some sort and was
promoted as the free version of Outlook. However, back in the 1980s when
USENET was one of the few common, open, global bulletin board systems I
simply used the free version of Agent to access discussions and compile
binaries (since unix tn etc had interface challenges). That is why I am
still sensitive to the fact that USENET is independent of the Web. That
said, I am simply trying to come to the Microsoft website to get answers
for
what I think should be a relatively basic problem for their Microsoft Word
07. They are the ones who forwarded me to this Microsoft office online
discussion group system. I can still find no evidence of any other
'recent'
submissions on outlines, so I thank you for:
1. Responding and
2. Returning to this thread to respond.
If you don't like my inability to find other threads, then you should take
it up with Microsoft.
Click on the Multilevel list button and then on the illustration that
shows
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 linked to Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, etc. *Then*
click
Define New Multilevel List, which will open the dialog with that list
template selected. From there, the Define New Multilevel List dialog is
more
or less identical to the Customize Outline-Numbered List dialog in Word
2003, although arranged a little differently. Click More to expand the
dialog, and you will see that the levels are linked to the built-in
heading
styles by default.
This did not work.
The multilevel list dialogue seems to be associated with normal textual
work
and not outlines. Moving elements around with the whole window open
immediately broke any connection that a 1/1.1/1.1.1/ numbering system
might
have with an outline. Shifting to the outline view ribbon tab revealed
that
once again Word seem to be creating a multilevel list as opposed to a
multilevel outline, with things working out of body text. No ability to
expand or contract sub elements.
And of course in the outline view one cannot see which headings one is
using
ahead of time, unless I guess one customizes the ribbon in some way. Is
that
what I need to tell college students to do? I am still not sure why
creation
of an numbering scheme for the outline would not be on the outline part of
the ribbon.
Returning to the general home ribbon: multilevel list / list and current
document is 1/1.1/1.1.1... / define a new multilevel list.. and the
expanded
dialogue reveals
apply changes to - the whole list,
link level to style - no style,
level to show in gallery - level I,
ListNum field list name - nothing
And down below their various alignment issues and ways to link one level
to
the other as you change which level to modify.
If I am in the ordinary print view, there is no sort of indentation that
one
might associate with an outline. And if you shift to outline view, all the
connections appear broken. For example, if I use the right arrow to shift
to
level III, there is no numbering scheme at all, no 1.1.1. Just text,
although with a plus or minus in a gray circle to indicate that I'm using
outline elements.
In the outline view, if I right-click on something that is at "level III"
the resulting dialogue suggests that there is no numbering scheme, and the
only thing that I am allowed to put in is a number or letter, nothing to
do
with a multilevel scheme anymore. And if I go back to the home ribbon,
multilevel list, it still says that I am using 1/1.1/1.1.1... numbering
scheme, but the none is now highlighted.
This is not like Word 2003. This is very different. Thanks.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
"Geodesic" wrote in message
...
Well, I am glad my post finally made it to the list. Perhaps the
repeated
non-sends had to do with the way I was closing my submissions (this
time I
used 'close' inside of Internet Explorer, rather than just 'post').
And
yes,
I can now see that the USENET Vehicle for
microsoft.public.word.docmanagement. That is not clear from the
official
Microsoft website that brought me here.
I hope it is clear that I want to create a "multilevel outline" and
*not*
a
"multilevel list". Period.
Yes, I can see the multilevel *list* tab with such options as, 'define
new
list style' and 'define new multilevel list.' However, no matter what
indent
or numbering scheme is used and meant to show up in the print layout,
every
line in the list is set as "body text". This fact (appears to) offer
no
functionality to *expand* or *collapse* sub-elements.
Whil to add this functionality, eone must invest a serious amount of
time
on resetting the 'heading sty'es.' I am making some headway on
programming
each 'heading style', I still don't see the way to link level, so that
one
would get:
1.
1.1
1.2
1.2.1
2.
One can go to the strip/home/styles/heading 1/[right-click]/modify
style/format tab/numbering and bullets/define new number format... but
there
no longer seems to be a link between levels as there was in Word 2003
when
you try to redefine 'Heading 2'
Again, I think it is a mistake that when I search on "multi-level
outline"
on the official Microsoft Office website I am sent to Multilevel list."
Shauna Kelly's tutorial does not appear to be updated for 2007 despite
what
it says at the bottom.
I think a single clear explanation of how to create ewould prove useful
.