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with Microsoft making Windows Live Mail a separate download/installation,
there is no longer an NNTP newsreader included with Windows.


I had heard this and so was a little surprised to find WLM installed on my
new Windows 7 laptop. I guess HP must have made it part of the OEM package.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
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The incidence of microsoft.public.word.general is becoming less frequent
and with the majority of posts coming from , when
Microsoft shut down the newsgroups, there is then probably no way of them
being propagated to NNTP and with Microsoft making Windows Live Mail a
separate download/installation, there is no longer an NNTP newsreader
included with Windows.

Apart from the way that the NNTP bridge screws up some of the formatting
(op in place of a Chr(13) and sometimes to periods in pasted code
where there was only one in the VBE), it is not a bad way of accessing the
forums.

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
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I am not sure that they would take any notice of Microsoft. Microsoft I
suspect owns the server msnews.microsoft.com. I don't believe it owns the
groups, and it certainly doesn't own the material posted in them. I
recall a forum microsoft.public.word.general that Microsoft removed from
its server many years ago, that maintains an independent life (though it
is not on the text server I have been testing). Were Microsoft able to
close down the whole of Usenet aimed at its products, that would an act
of corporate vandalism on a huge scale.

The big difference will be that Microsoft will not longer link its help
forums to the Usenet world. Frankly it was a pain when it did so and has
been nothing but trouble - but it did ensure a steady supply of
contributions via those forums. Without that link, the traffic will
undoubtedly drop (and many corporates block NNTP access, so we will lose
those too). The problem is that only those of us who have been around for
a while are aware of the newsgroups. Microsoft does not give them any
publicity that I could easily find. Instead it will take its users to the
new forums, and the NNTP bridge they have provided will ensure that those
of us who haunt the newsgroups will be able to access the users who take
that change of direction ... if we can find them.


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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site
www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



"Yves Dhondt" wrote in message
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That's what I'm hoping for.

I guess it is all up to the major NNTP service providers (GigaNews,
SuperNews, ...). They serve hundreds of local ISPs and mirroring forums.
If they decide to pull the plug on the newsgroups (on a request made by
MS), the groups will disappear pretty fast. Otherwise, I guess they will
remain up and running for a long time.

Yves

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
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I wonder? I am currently accessing this newsgroup by a third party, text
based usenet server (Eternal-September), and the OP appears to have
accessed the server via a link from officefrustration.com (about which I
know nothing, but which is one of many forums that piggy back on
Usenet). Even if Microsoft pulls the plug on its newsserver
msnews.microsoft.com, this forum will have a life of its own
independently from Microsoft, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if
those countless hangers-on (like officefrustration.com) will still be
connected. Rather than gaining from the switch-off as Microsoft expects,
it could possibly lose from it? Google Groups for example is probably
big enough to ensure that it remains viable.

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org




"Yves Dhondt" wrote in message
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Welcome, but you are a bit late to the party as "Effective June 1,
2010 this newsgroup will be closed." according to Microsoft.

Yves

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