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Default unnumbered footnote?

Yes, I can see how the procedure described in your article would work,
and that repagination would be a problem, though I wonder why anyone
would want to put page-wide footnotes under columns.



It isn't so much that you want to put page-wide footnotes under columns as
that you want to put page-wide footnotes on a page that is mostly
single-column but has a double-column section that just happens to contain a
footnote. See "Section break causes an unexpected page break in Word"
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=292074

As for table footnotes, I rarely have them, and I usually add them only when
editing is complete, but what I do to deal with merged cells of this nature
when it's necessary to resize columns is temporarily split the table, make
the adjustment, then rejoin.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
If you make your table footnotes a literally part of the table, you
have to use Merged Cells, and they tend to interact badly with columns
that might need to be resized (don't even think about moving columns
involved in a Merge!)
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Yes, I can see how the procedure described in your article would work,
and that repagination would be a problem, though I wonder why anyone
would want to put page-wide footnotes under columns.

The other way -- putting two columns of footnotes under a single
column of text -- is very common with large- or broad-formatted books
(quarto or larger, say), and there doesn't seem to be any way at all
of doing that.

On Jan 23, 12:04 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Yes, they would go at the bottom of the page. If you have full-page
tables,
this would probably be okay, but, as I say, I make them part of the table
itself.

As for clumping the footnotes, you could fudge this using the workaround
described inhttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/FtnoteSpanColumns.htm
(putting the footnote reference where it needs to be in order to "clump"
the
notes, making it hidden, and using a cross-reference to the footnote
number
where you want it to show). I would foresee a lot of problems as documents
were repaginated, though.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

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I am incredulous.

For some philological applications, there need to be two sets of
footnotes on each page, perhaps numbered and lettered, or numbered and
asterisked, and they can't be interspersed but have to be in separate
clumps. The text box thing would probably have to be used for that.

As for table footnotes, I got used to having them in FrameMaker but in
Word I do them in a paragraph under the table (Keep With Next before
it), use Numbering on the style to label them a., b., etc., and then
do a cross reference from the text in the table title or table cell.

You think I could do custom footnotes there instead? Wouldn't they go
to the bottom of the page like regular footnotes?

On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



It hasn't been that long ago that I learned you could intersperse
"custom"
footnotes with numbered ones. It works well if you want to use numbered
footnotes to document sources and use asterisks and daggers for content
(another approach is to use endnotes for source documentation and
footnotes
for substantive notes), or I suppose you could use them for tables
(though
I
prefer to do those manually and put them in the merged bottom row of the
table).


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"Jay Freedman" wrote in message


.. .


I really do learn something new every day. :-)


On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:50:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"

wrote:


Use a "custom" footnote. These are outside the numbering scheme for
ordinary
footnotes. Usually you'd use this to create a footnote with an
asterisk
or
the like, and you can still do that (many articles actually use an
asterisk
for the purpose), but if you don't want any reference mark at all,
just
use
an asterisk (or anything else) and format it as Hidden both in the
text
and
in the footnote.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message
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It's quite usual for a journal article or book chapter to have an
initial unnumbered footnote containing acknowledgments.


Is there any way to do that in Word2003?


I tried starting footnote numbering with 0 (which I could
subseqently
color White or mark Hidden), but the start number must be between 1
and 64K+. (Which suggests, incidentally, that there's a limit to the
number of footnotes a document can have.)


I tried inserting a Continuous Section Break (so as to restart
footnote numbering in the second section), but if the first section
contains a footnote, the second section starts a new page.-