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Yve Ke Yve Ke is offline
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Default page break interferes with header location

Hi Suzanne
Thanks again for your help!
I have established that it has something to do with the text boundary. One
is wider than the other. But the font, the para before and after, the size of
text are all the same. How is this text boundary established? The odd page
header has the grey dotted line at the end of the header space and the even
page footer has the grey dotted line through the header space.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The black square (as explained at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm) just signifies that
(in this case) you have "Page break before" formatting applied. Text
boundaries (for Print Layout view only) can be enabled on the View tab of
Tools | Options.

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"Yve Ke" wrote in message
...
But I don't see any extra paragraph mark in there. I think there is

something
siginificant in the fact that the scroll box bounces down a bit even as

the
cursor is at the same location for the odd and even header. What does the
little black signify and how do you show text boundaries?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're using different odd and even headers, there's a good chance

you
copy/pasted text from one to the other. This is another pitfall. No

matter
how carefully you select all but the paragraph mark when copying and

select
the existing paragraph mark when pasting, Word will still always paste

an
extra paragraph mark, giving you an extra, empty paragraph. That might

be
what's causing your problem. It is, of course, much easier to

troubleshoot
such issues if you have nonprinting characters displayed, and easier

still
if you have text boundaries displayed.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Yve Ke" wrote in message
...
Thank you that was very helpful. I have removed all manual pagebreaks

and
changed the format like you said. BUT i still notice that when i flick
from
odd to even header that my text on odd butts right up to the header

area
and
my text on even doesn't. There doesn't seem to be a lurking enter.

What i
do
notice though is that my scroll box in the scroll bar jumps down a

little
when I switch between odd and even. SO there is still uneven page tops
across
my manual. I am now starting to think it maybe a header and footer

thing.
I've checked my para spacing after and that is identical.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you insert a manual page break, you (a) split the table (which
prevents
any heading rows from repeating) and (b) inserts an empty paragraph
above
the table on the second page. To avoid both results, instead select

the
row
you want to be at the top of the second page and format it as "Page
break
before" (Line and Page Breaks tab of Format | Paragraph). Unless

you're
absolutely positive you always want a page break just there, it's

better
to
keep rows together using "Keep with next" formatting. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFldsFm...ksInTables.htm

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Yve Ke" wrote in message
...
i have been making a procedures manual and I have noticed that

when i
put
in
a hard page break (because i don't want a table to split acorss a
page) a
little black box stays on the previous page and it interferes with

the
location of the first line of text on the new page. I am getting
uneven
tops
of pages depending on whether there is a page break on the page
before.
It
is slight but it is annoying.
Can anyone help?
Yve