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"PopS" wrote in message
...
OK Luc, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It does indeed work in Word 2002
and probably earlier versions, too! Thanks to your specific and
excellent leadership.
I've got it working, reliably, and perfectly. I -think- it
didn't work for me the first time because I was getting an
erroneous dialog box when I chose the Format Autoshape, which
I'll attribute to memory failure since it never appeared today (I
decided to do a Restart just to be sure everything was pristine
as possible).

The Advance tab you don't know the name of is called "Text
Wrapping". Interestingly enough, I've apparently never looked at
the four choices in thge lower part of that dialog box because
that's the secret to getting it to work right.

Interestingly enough, it's possible to get it half-assed working
with the original instructions I mentioned for 2002, but it will
never be any more than half-assed that way!

So, I'm suspecting that any version of Word that has the tab
names and functions you called out can do this.
Personally the only part I see missing in your writeup is to
ignore the "Draw your Graphic Here" box that pops up in 2002 and
draw the lines where you want them on the page, which is outside
of the suggested box. If you don't get that box in 2003 it's
probably been fixed because it doesn't restrict you to the
suggested box in any way at all. In fact, trying to draw the
lines IN that box will get you the wrong dialog box when you go
to Format Autoshape. You have to ignore it, and it goes away on
its own as soon as you've drawn the first line. Looks like a bug
at work.
It's also fairly important to be sure you set the View to show
the Entire Page for drawing the lines, in my opinion. Then when
you're done formatting set the page width to whatever you like it
to be.
You can also set the lines lower on the page (or higher) and
when you drop into (or out of) the triangular area text just goes
to the normal widths since it isn't within the areas between the
lines.

Good going! And thanks again!

PopS



"Luc" wrote in message
...
: Hello HT,
: If I read your reply correctly my method does not seem to work
for you then.
: I'll try to explain it again.
: First step:
: Draw two separate lines using the line tool of the drawing
toolbar, be sure
: to draw them so that they do not come together in the same
point, leave some
: space between them at the bottom of the page.
: Second step:
: Select the left line by clicking on it, rightclick it and
choose Format
: AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left), choose the
Tight icon,
: click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click on the
second tab
: (don't know the English term), in the third section of the
dialogue there
: are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the right"
(third radio
: button from the left), hit OK two times.
: Third step:
: Select the line on the right by clicking on it, rightclick it
and choose
: Format AutoShape, choose the Layout tab (third from left),
choose the Tight
: icon, click on the advanced button (right hand corner), click
on the second
: tab (don't know the English term), in the third section of the
dialogue
: there are four ways to let the text flow choose "only to the
left" (second
: radio button from the left), hit OK two times.
: Fourth step:
: Your paragraph marker should now be to the right of the left
line, click
: there and start to type, type as much text as you want, it will
cascade as
: expected. Upon reaching the bottom of the page the page being
full, and only
: then, there will be an automatic new page which of course will
not cascade.
: Fifth step:
: Select the two lines (click and shift+click) choose Format -
AutoShape,
: colors and lines tab, in the line section choose white as the
line colour.
: That's all.
: Hope this time all is clear, remember I am translating.
: Luc
:
: "HT" schreef in bericht
: ...
: Hi, its me again..thanks for the input guys..
: I now understand Luc's instructions (sorry I was too
embarrassed to ask
: but
: thanks to Pop's speaking up he answered my questions)..it
worked great for
: the first 4 sentences but then the text ran underneath the
lines.
: I tried "Tight", "Both Sides" and received the same effect.
:
: "Luc" wrote in message
: ...
: PopS,
: Hi again, using Word 2003 here.
: Tested again here, the text does not jump around, when the
page is full a
: new page is started without the lines of course. But I am
guessing you
: only
: want the first page to cascade.
: I must say that I am not using any kind of centering. When
the two lines
: are
: set one allowing textflow to the right (the left line) and
one allowing
: textflow to the left (the right line) all you have to do is
type in your
: text and edit to hearts content.
: The moment you have chosen Tight (thanks again Doug) you
click on
: advanced,
: select the second tab of the dialogue, near the bottom there
should be
: four
: ways to wrap text it's the middle two you need.
: Luc
: "PopS" schreef in bericht
: ...
: Hi Luc,
:
: No need for apologies - I'm quite happy with just
discovering a
: way to do this with some automation. My way, with manual
line
: breaks, is a real pain if I have to go back and fix an
error,
: especially if it's adding or deleting an entire word.
:
: What version of Word are you working in?
:
: I'm interested in this enough to spend some time getting
my head
: around how it works & why, but just can't seem to find the
time
: (working weekend here), but I should be free by next week.
: If I can't either get it to work your way or any way for
that
: matter g, and keep the text from jumping off onto the
next
: page, I'll be back and maybe we can try some empiracal
tests back
: and forth to help me figure it out?
:
: TIA,
:
: PopS
:
:
:
:
: "Luc" wrote in message
: ...
: : PopS,
: : Sorry for the wrong wording, I am translating best I can
since
: I use the
: : Dutch version. The said "contour" icon is the third from
the
: left in the
: : mentioned tab.
: : I tested again here, using the method I described, and
nothing
: jumps around
: : even with long sentences or paragraphs. It's stays solid
as a
: rock.
: : Luc
: :
: :
: : "PopS" schreef in bericht
: : ...
: : Hi Luc,
: :
: : I ass-u-me you're talking about 2003, right? I have
2002 and
: : there is no "countour" under the Format AutoShape
menues,
: : therefore it doesn't work as you stated, but:
: :
: : it DOES work in 2002 if you instead select the left
line and
: : then use Set AutoShape Defaults. There is a caveat or
two:
: Too
: : long a sentence or paragraph (several lines) will jump
: everything
: : outside of the shape and push it to the next page on
you.
: : Anything that can't be fit in the space provided by
the
: triangle
: : "jumps" outside the triangle and in the process seems
to take
: : everything else with it.
: : I only spent a few seconds with it, so it's probably
easy
: to
: : anchor the triangle to keep it from blowing away in
the winds
: of
: : the ether. I suspect there's more to learn about it -
and
: I'm
: : glad to discover something I never thought about
before.
: :
: : That said, NEAT! I never thought about doing it that
way and
: : just used Centering and the Enter key before this.
: :
: : Good tip!
: :
: : Pops
: :
: :
: : "Luc" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : HT,
: : : Draw two lines with the line tool on the Drawing
toolbar.
: First
: : from top
: : : left to middle bottom, second from top right to
middle
: bottom.
: : : Select the left line, rightclick it, choose Format
: AutoShape,
: : choose third
: : : tab from the left, click on the contour icon, now
click on
: : advanced, choose
: : : only to the right in the section for wrapping text.
Now do
: the
: : same with the
: : : line on the right, but set this on to wrap text only
to the
: : left of the
: : : line.
: : : To make the lines disappear in the same menu choose
colors
: and
: : lines tab and
: : : change the color to white.
: : : Luc
: : : "HT" schreef in bericht
: : : ...
: : : Word2003
: : : WindowsXP
: : :
: : : This is what a cascading paragraph looks like.
: : :
: : : xxxxxxxxx
: : : xxxxxxxx
: : : xxxxxx
: : : xxx
: : : x
: : :
: : : I need to create this because it will be on the
1st page
: of
: : an Offering
: : : Statement.
: : :
: : : Thank you.
: : :
: : :
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