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language settings in tables inconsistent?
Hi all
Following behaviour of word: 1) Create a new document. Language setting for the whole document is "Deutsch (Schweiz)". Auto language recognition is disabled 3) Menu 'Table' - 'Insert' - 'Table' 5) Repeat step 3 n-times. n seems to depend on the number of cells or the number of columns and lines respectively. Doesn't matter whether tables are nested or not. 6) Language setting now has changed to mixed "English (US)" and "Deutsch (Schweiz)". I'm not able to change the settings back to "Deutsch (Schweiz)" via 'Tools' - 'Language' - 'Set Language'. Just the same when copy paste from excel in step 3. Why, I'm not able to change the language settings back. Why is Word changing the settings? Any experiences or explanations for this? Thanks! MS Windows 2002, SP2 MS Word 2002, SP3 |
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language settings in tables inconsistent?
Hi Jop,
Following behaviour of word: 1) Create a new document. Language setting for the whole document is "Deutsch (Schweiz)". Auto language recognition is disabled 3) Menu 'Table' - 'Insert' - 'Table' 5) Repeat step 3 n-times. n seems to depend on the number of cells or the number of columns and lines respectively. Doesn't matter whether tables are nested or not. 6) Language setting now has changed to mixed "English (US)" and "Deutsch (Schweiz)". I'm not able to change the settings back to "Deutsch (Schweiz)" via 'Tools' - 'Language' - 'Set Language'. Just the same when copy paste from excel in step 3. Why, I'm not able to change the language settings back. Why is Word changing the settings? Any experiences or explanations for this? In the Tips section on my website you'll find an explanation of how language formatting in Word is controlled. Among other things, it describes the conflict between Windows language and Word's default language setting. If these two aren't in synch, all kinds of weirdness is possible. So, the first thing you should do is check whether your Windows has the same default language as Word. If it does not, synch them up and see if the internal Word behavior becomes more stable/predictable. Whenenever you copy outside information into Word, it brings language formatting along. Mostly, this is retained. So I'm guessing your Excel language is US English? Finally, which version of Word/Office? Once you have this basic information, we can look deeper into the question about the tables. My best guess, at this point, is that the language is bubbling up through a Table Style's settings. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Hi Cindy
Some more infos first :-) MS-Windows 2002 Pro German, SP2. All language/regional settings Switzerland/German MS-Office10 German MS-Word 2002 German, SP3 I did already checked all the things you describe on your homepage. They are correct so far. I do understand Word changes the language settings in case I insert e.g. Chinese text in an Excel sheet and then copy paste content as table to my Word document. But I do not expect Word to change anything when repeatedly creating empty tables in Word. Debugging in VisualBasic editor shows (as expected) a change of the Language ID value from 'ActiveDocument.Range.LanguageID = wdSwissGerman' to 'ActiveDocument.Range.LanguageID = 9999999' Regards J |
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language settings in tables inconsistent?
Hi Jop,
OK, things got busy and I got side-tracked. For quite a while. Sorry about that... FWIW I can reproduce getting a mixed language for the entire document range and even for a table. However, even if I loop through every single character in the document I can't locate even ONE with the wrong language. I tried this in Word 2003, saving such a file to XML. I couldn't find the source of this anomaly in there, either. It must be something buried VERY deeply in Word. As a matter of fact, I seem to get it only under the following circumstances: 1. The range I'm checking breaks across a page 2. There are two tables with different numbers of columns "merged" together as one I came across (1) when a single table broke across a page. I was getting the mixed information for the table, but... As soon as I moved the entire table to one page it stopped. Ditto for removing the paragraph mark between two tables, then splitting them again. Following behaviour of word: 1) Create a new document. Language setting for the whole document is "Deutsch (Schweiz)". Auto language recognition is disabled 3) Menu 'Table' - 'Insert' - 'Table' 5) Repeat step 3 n-times. n seems to depend on the number of cells or the number of columns and lines respectively. Doesn't matter whether tables are nested or not. 6) Language setting now has changed to mixed "English (US)" and "Deutsch (Schweiz)". I'm not able to change the settings back to "Deutsch (Schweiz)" via 'Tools' - 'Language' - 'Set Language'. Just the same when copy paste from excel in step 3. Why, I'm not able to change the language settings back. Why is Word changing the settings? Any experiences or explanations for this? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Hi Cindy
No worries, I had other things on my table as well. Probably as everybody does :-) I didn't check the behavior you describe, yet. But I'll do so this week. Thanks! Meanwhile: We got through this on several machines and in various configurations. The problem was always reproducible. Then I found that Word this is probably not a problem with language settings only: 1. Create a new empty document in MS-Word 2. Type 48x Enter (49 empty lines) 3. Select all (Ctrl-A) 4. Everything seems to be ok 5. Hit Enter for another time (50 empty lines) 6. Select all (Ctrl-A) 7. Text style and paragraph alignment are not displayed anymore in the toolbar 8. Hit Enter for another time (51 empty lines) 9. Select all (Ctrl-A) 10. Font name, font size and language setting disappeared as well Me too, I got the impression something deep down in MS-Word is behaving .... well let's say *strange* |
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language settings in tables inconsistent?
Hi Jop,
Yes, I think it's the (automatic) page break. I imagine its formatting is "undefined". No worries, I had other things on my table as well. Probably as everybody does :-) I didn't check the behavior you describe, yet. But I'll do so this week. Thanks! Meanwhile: We got through this on several machines and in various configurations. The problem was always reproducible. Then I found that Word this is probably not a problem with language settings only: 1. Create a new empty document in MS-Word 2. Type 48x Enter (49 empty lines) 3. Select all (Ctrl-A) 4. Everything seems to be ok 5. Hit Enter for another time (50 empty lines) 6. Select all (Ctrl-A) 7. Text style and paragraph alignment are not displayed anymore in the toolbar 8. Hit Enter for another time (51 empty lines) 9. Select all (Ctrl-A) 10. Font name, font size and language setting disappeared as well Me too, I got the impression something deep down in MS-Word is behaving .... well let's say *strange* Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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