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Normal.dot Wasn't Being Saved
Hello (again):
I'm writing about Word 2002 running on Windows XP SP 2. For a while I had this problem: Any changes I made to normal.dot were only saved until I restarted my computer. Once I restarted my computer, normal.dot reverted to default settings. I actually posted about this once before and received a helpful reply explaining that if I was running Acrobat Reader 7 - which I was at the time I posted - then Acrobat Reader could be the problem. (A link explained why.) To test this possibility, I uninstalled Acrobat Reader 7 (never liked it anyway) and restarted my computer. Then I customized normal.dot (through Word's Tools | Options, natch). My settings held until I restarted my computer and then...back to defaults! So, it seems Acrobat Reader was not causing this problem. I thought my security software - Kaspersky Internet Security 6 - might be interfering. However, a review of the program's logs showed no action had been taken against Word. Finally, I tried this experiment: I opened normal.dot in Word, made my changes in Tools | Options, and saved the file as normal.dot. In other words, I forced normal.dot to change. TA DA - this worked. I don't mind making changes this way - heck, I hardly ever change normal.dot - but if someone could suggest why I can't change Word's global template I would love to fix this. As a possible additional clue: When changes to normal.dot weren't saving, Word would also open in full screen. Thanks for any suggestions. Earl Grey |
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If you understood that Adobe Reader 7 was the problem, you misunderstood.
The problem is Adobe Acrobat 7, which is an entirely different program. There is no problem with Adobe Reader. But whatever is causing your problem is having the same effect: it is marking Normal.dot as being saved so that you are not prompted to save it when you quit Word. You don't actually have to open Normal.dot for editing, however; you can, as explained in http://www.gmayor.com/lose_that_adob...at_toolbar.htm, force a save by pressing Shift while clicking File, then clicking Save All. This forces a save of all open documents and templates, including Normal.dot (you can cancel a Save As for any open unsaved documents). At a guess, there is some Word add-in that is causing the problem, so your task is to find what add-ins are present and eliminate them one by one as the culprit. For help in determining what add-ins are installed, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...sInstalled.htm. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Earl Grey" wrote in message ... Hello (again): I'm writing about Word 2002 running on Windows XP SP 2. For a while I had this problem: Any changes I made to normal.dot were only saved until I restarted my computer. Once I restarted my computer, normal.dot reverted to default settings. I actually posted about this once before and received a helpful reply explaining that if I was running Acrobat Reader 7 - which I was at the time I posted - then Acrobat Reader could be the problem. (A link explained why.) To test this possibility, I uninstalled Acrobat Reader 7 (never liked it anyway) and restarted my computer. Then I customized normal.dot (through Word's Tools | Options, natch). My settings held until I restarted my computer and then...back to defaults! So, it seems Acrobat Reader was not causing this problem. I thought my security software - Kaspersky Internet Security 6 - might be interfering. However, a review of the program's logs showed no action had been taken against Word. Finally, I tried this experiment: I opened normal.dot in Word, made my changes in Tools | Options, and saved the file as normal.dot. In other words, I forced normal.dot to change. TA DA - this worked. I don't mind making changes this way - heck, I hardly ever change normal.dot - but if someone could suggest why I can't change Word's global template I would love to fix this. As a possible additional clue: When changes to normal.dot weren't saving, Word would also open in full screen. Thanks for any suggestions. Earl Grey |
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To add to Suzanne's reply, we were recently informed by another user that a
disk cleaner utility (I think it was called CC cleaner) was causing this problem too. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... If you understood that Adobe Reader 7 was the problem, you misunderstood. The problem is Adobe Acrobat 7, which is an entirely different program. There is no problem with Adobe Reader. But whatever is causing your problem is having the same effect: it is marking Normal.dot as being saved so that you are not prompted to save it when you quit Word. You don't actually have to open Normal.dot for editing, however; you can, as explained in http://www.gmayor.com/lose_that_adob...at_toolbar.htm, force a save by pressing Shift while clicking File, then clicking Save All. This forces a save of all open documents and templates, including Normal.dot (you can cancel a Save As for any open unsaved documents). At a guess, there is some Word add-in that is causing the problem, so your task is to find what add-ins are present and eliminate them one by one as the culprit. For help in determining what add-ins are installed, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...sInstalled.htm. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Earl Grey" wrote in message ... Hello (again): I'm writing about Word 2002 running on Windows XP SP 2. For a while I had this problem: Any changes I made to normal.dot were only saved until I restarted my computer. Once I restarted my computer, normal.dot reverted to default settings. I actually posted about this once before and received a helpful reply explaining that if I was running Acrobat Reader 7 - which I was at the time I posted - then Acrobat Reader could be the problem. (A link explained why.) To test this possibility, I uninstalled Acrobat Reader 7 (never liked it anyway) and restarted my computer. Then I customized normal.dot (through Word's Tools | Options, natch). My settings held until I restarted my computer and then...back to defaults! So, it seems Acrobat Reader was not causing this problem. I thought my security software - Kaspersky Internet Security 6 - might be interfering. However, a review of the program's logs showed no action had been taken against Word. Finally, I tried this experiment: I opened normal.dot in Word, made my changes in Tools | Options, and saved the file as normal.dot. In other words, I forced normal.dot to change. TA DA - this worked. I don't mind making changes this way - heck, I hardly ever change normal.dot - but if someone could suggest why I can't change Word's global template I would love to fix this. As a possible additional clue: When changes to normal.dot weren't saving, Word would also open in full screen. Thanks for any suggestions. Earl Grey |
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Thanks for the reminder, Terry. I keep forgetting about CC Cleaner.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... To add to Suzanne's reply, we were recently informed by another user that a disk cleaner utility (I think it was called CC cleaner) was causing this problem too. -- Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... If you understood that Adobe Reader 7 was the problem, you misunderstood. The problem is Adobe Acrobat 7, which is an entirely different program. There is no problem with Adobe Reader. But whatever is causing your problem is having the same effect: it is marking Normal.dot as being saved so that you are not prompted to save it when you quit Word. You don't actually have to open Normal.dot for editing, however; you can, as explained in http://www.gmayor.com/lose_that_adob...at_toolbar.htm, force a save by pressing Shift while clicking File, then clicking Save All. This forces a save of all open documents and templates, including Normal.dot (you can cancel a Save As for any open unsaved documents). At a guess, there is some Word add-in that is causing the problem, so your task is to find what add-ins are present and eliminate them one by one as the culprit. For help in determining what add-ins are installed, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...sInstalled.htm. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgrou p so all may benefit. "Earl Grey" wrote in message ... Hello (again): I'm writing about Word 2002 running on Windows XP SP 2. For a while I had this problem: Any changes I made to normal.dot were only saved until I restarted my computer. Once I restarted my computer, normal.dot reverted to default settings. I actually posted about this once before and received a helpful reply explaining that if I was running Acrobat Reader 7 - which I was at the time I posted - then Acrobat Reader could be the problem. (A link explained why.) To test this possibility, I uninstalled Acrobat Reader 7 (never liked it anyway) and restarted my computer. Then I customized normal.dot (through Word's Tools | Options, natch). My settings held until I restarted my computer and then...back to defaults! So, it seems Acrobat Reader was not causing this problem. I thought my security software - Kaspersky Internet Security 6 - might be interfering. However, a review of the program's logs showed no action had been taken against Word. Finally, I tried this experiment: I opened normal.dot in Word, made my changes in Tools | Options, and saved the file as normal.dot. In other words, I forced normal.dot to change. TA DA - this worked. I don't mind making changes this way - heck, I hardly ever change normal.dot - but if someone could suggest why I can't change Word's global template I would love to fix this. As a possible additional clue: When changes to normal.dot weren't saving, Word would also open in full screen. Thanks for any suggestions. Earl Grey |
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Hello again:
Thanks for your help. Apologies to Suzanne for misunderstanding your original reply. Yes, I have Acrobat Reader, not Acrobat itself. In any case, it's good to know that Shift+File+Save All is an option. Unfortunately, saving normal.dot over itself has proved fruitless. The problem is back. And since I have no add-ins installed in Word, the finger is pointing at CCleaner. I have been using CCleaner for a while but have not experienced a problem with normal.dot until recently. It might be that an update to the program that is causing my problem. The thing is, CCleaner is set to run at every restart, and the global template did not reset itself for the first few restarts. My settings in normal.dot seem to survive several restarts and opening/closings of Word, but eventually the defaults return. Something is getting in the way. I'll have to do some experimenting to identify a culprit. Earl Grey Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Terry. I keep forgetting about CC Cleaner. |
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Normal.dot Wasn't Being Saved
Apparently CC Cleaner screws up Word's registry settings so don't use it!
You may have to delete the settings sub key of the data key in the registry in order for Word to rebuild it (see http://www.gmayor.com/my_toolbars_are_missing.htm ) which shows how to find it. With that fixed, you can re-input your preferred settings. I would recommend renaming normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (which will allow Word to rebuild that) and repairing Word also. You can then copy your macros etc from the oldnormal.dot to the new one using the organizer - see also http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm then http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...peningWord.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Earl Grey wrote: Hello again: Thanks for your help. Apologies to Suzanne for misunderstanding your original reply. Yes, I have Acrobat Reader, not Acrobat itself. In any case, it's good to know that Shift+File+Save All is an option. Unfortunately, saving normal.dot over itself has proved fruitless. The problem is back. And since I have no add-ins installed in Word, the finger is pointing at CCleaner. I have been using CCleaner for a while but have not experienced a problem with normal.dot until recently. It might be that an update to the program that is causing my problem. The thing is, CCleaner is set to run at every restart, and the global template did not reset itself for the first few restarts. My settings in normal.dot seem to survive several restarts and opening/closings of Word, but eventually the defaults return. Something is getting in the way. I'll have to do some experimenting to identify a culprit. Earl Grey Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Terry. I keep forgetting about CC Cleaner. |
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