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outline numbering won't work
Yes, but those of us who have Word 2007 are screwed since the help references
here in the link goes to a detailed (don't miss this step or that step) account for Word 2002 and Word 2003! If you search on help on 'outline' (from inside of Word 2007) the MS Website sends to a Numbered List response (their first choice). However, the numbered list is the nightmare, since these 'lists' don't allow elements to be closed, expanded, can't be converted to real outlines, etc. I have had to set all these 'headers' to times roman 12 with paragraph set to 0, and fonts no longer blue (!), but still the elements go 1,2,3,4 even if the so-called 3 in in fact a heading level 2, looking like this 1. 2, 3. 4. I mean how can Microsoft believe that this is even useful? When is something going to choose this as their default multi-level outline. Can you point to a single person who would choose this? After hours of investigation I once got this worked out with WordXP, but Word 2007 once again makes things more complicated and counter-intuitive. I DON'T NEED ALL THIS COMPLICATED FORMATTING. I simply want to create basic outlines in Word, and not these brain dead numbered lists. I was teaching university students the importance of outlining. Am I really supposed to lead them all through these complicated steps to get a basic outline where the formatting doesn't change, and where the numbering will go 1, a, i, 1, a.. or 1,a,1,a... Interestingly, if one takes this numbered lists from Word 2007 and copies them into OneNote 2007, the 1, a, 1, a... 'lists' can become dynamic hierarchies where one can hide lower elements. However, when one paste this back into Word 2007, they become mere non-dynamic numbered (or lettered) lists again. And why if one is on the word 2007 ribbon 'outline' does one then have to go to the home, paragraph, multi-level tab to even get a change to set up a multi-level list (which form me simply goes 1,2,3,4,5 regardless of level even when I choose 1,a,1,a,1). Why not put something like this on the 'outline' ribbon? Why can't the Word group even begin to attain the level of intelligence of the OneNote 2007 group. Why must we be forced at work to use this counter-intuitive Word program, and to hire consultants to write simple documents? "Diana" wrote: Thanks a bunch. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Set it up according to http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Diana" wrote in message ... I have a file plan using the outline view and want to number it using outline numbering, eg. 1, 1.1, 1.1.1, 2, 2.1, 2.2 but it only give me a straight sequence 1 2 3 4 5 ignoring the different levels. How do I get outline numbering to work? -- Diana |
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outline numbering won't work
In Word, outline numbering must be linked to paragraph styles, one for each
level, if it should work properly; this is equally true in Word 2007 as it was in Word 2003. To create an outline list, click Home tab | Multilevel List | Define New Multilevel List. Define all aspects of numbering and associate each level with a paragraph style (the dialog box works pretty much the same as the Customize Outline Numbered List in Word 2003; see http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html for assistance with the options). To edit an existing list, place the insertion point in the first level 1 item (for heading numbering, this means the first Heading 1 paragraph of the document), and click Home tab | Multilevel List | Define New Multilevel List. By the way, you are right: numbering is counter-intuitive in Word, especially so in Word 2007, but you can make it work if you set it up carefully. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Geodesic" wrote in message ... Yes, but those of us who have Word 2007 are screwed since the help references here in the link goes to a detailed (don't miss this step or that step) account for Word 2002 and Word 2003! If you search on help on 'outline' (from inside of Word 2007) the MS Website sends to a Numbered List response (their first choice). However, the numbered list is the nightmare, since these 'lists' don't allow elements to be closed, expanded, can't be converted to real outlines, etc. I have had to set all these 'headers' to times roman 12 with paragraph set to 0, and fonts no longer blue (!), but still the elements go 1,2,3,4 even if the so-called 3 in in fact a heading level 2, looking like this 1. 2, 3. 4. I mean how can Microsoft believe that this is even useful? When is something going to choose this as their default multi-level outline. Can you point to a single person who would choose this? After hours of investigation I once got this worked out with WordXP, but Word 2007 once again makes things more complicated and counter-intuitive. I DON'T NEED ALL THIS COMPLICATED FORMATTING. I simply want to create basic outlines in Word, and not these brain dead numbered lists. I was teaching university students the importance of outlining. Am I really supposed to lead them all through these complicated steps to get a basic outline where the formatting doesn't change, and where the numbering will go 1, a, i, 1, a.. or 1,a,1,a... Interestingly, if one takes this numbered lists from Word 2007 and copies them into OneNote 2007, the 1, a, 1, a... 'lists' can become dynamic hierarchies where one can hide lower elements. However, when one paste this back into Word 2007, they become mere non-dynamic numbered (or lettered) lists again. And why if one is on the word 2007 ribbon 'outline' does one then have to go to the home, paragraph, multi-level tab to even get a change to set up a multi-level list (which form me simply goes 1,2,3,4,5 regardless of level even when I choose 1,a,1,a,1). Why not put something like this on the 'outline' ribbon? Why can't the Word group even begin to attain the level of intelligence of the OneNote 2007 group. Why must we be forced at work to use this counter-intuitive Word program, and to hire consultants to write simple documents? "Diana" wrote: Thanks a bunch. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Set it up according to http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Diana" wrote in message ... I have a file plan using the outline view and want to number it using outline numbering, eg. 1, 1.1, 1.1.1, 2, 2.1, 2.2 but it only give me a straight sequence 1 2 3 4 5 ignoring the different levels. How do I get outline numbering to work? -- Diana |
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