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Old June 7th 12, 05:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Jim[_8_]
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

Hi all, i lend my laptop out to a few people now and then and to be
honest i'm getting unhappy about doing this as i can't trust what they
do with it, si i want to be able to check what they are typing when i
get it back from them, they save there files onto thumb drives, now i
could install some kind of spyware but i'd rather get word to just save
a copy of everything they type and save it to my C drive while they save
it to there thumb drive, if i'm happy with what they are doing then i'll
not bother any more, i let them login via windows 7 U x64 guest acc
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Old June 7th 12, 06:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

On 2012-06-07, Jim wrote:
Hi all, i lend my laptop out to a few people now and then and to be
honest i'm getting unhappy about doing this as i can't trust what they
do with it, si i want to be able to check what they are typing when i
get it back from them, they save there files onto thumb drives, now i
could install some kind of spyware but i'd rather get word to just save
a copy of everything they type and save it to my C drive while they save
it to there thumb drive, if i'm happy with what they are doing then i'll
not bother any more, i let them login via windows 7 U x64 guest acc


It sounds like you might need to reassess whether or not you trust the
people you loan your computer to in the first place before you employ a
technological solution. Also, ensure that the people you loan it to
trust you enough to behave wisely with the information you are
collecting on them (you _would_ tell them you're copying everything they
do on the computer, right?).

That said, I'm sure there's a relatively trivial way with Word VBA to
save a duplicate copy of a file whenever it is saved. I suppose you
could also look into a keylogger, which would capture everything that is
typed on the keyboard. Regardless of whether or how you choose to
monitor the use of your cmputer, I'd recommend outlining the uses that
you deem appropriate with those who borrow it, and make clear that the
priviledge will be revoked should they violate such expectations.

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Old June 7th 12, 08:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Jim[_8_]
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

On 07/06/2012 18:26, Paul wrote:

It sounds like you might need to reassess whether or not you trust the
people you loan your computer to in the first place before you employ a
technological solution. Also, ensure that the people you loan it to
trust you enough to behave wisely with the information you are
collecting on them (you _would_ tell them you're copying everything they
do on the computer, right?).

That said, I'm sure there's a relatively trivial way with Word VBA to
save a duplicate copy of a file whenever it is saved. I suppose you
could also look into a keylogger, which would capture everything that is
typed on the keyboard. Regardless of whether or how you choose to
monitor the use of your cmputer, I'd recommend outlining the uses that
you deem appropriate with those who borrow it, and make clear that the
priviledge will be revoked should they violate such expectations.

There are 4 people i lend it too, 2 of them i know i can trust the other
2 i'm unsure and they are the ones i want to check on, I would not tell
them what i'd be doing as there would be no point, once i know i can
trust them then i'd be happy to leave the alone but i have to make sure
first, key logger is an option but i'd rather not install any more
software hence just keeping a copy of each file.
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Old June 7th 12, 11:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

On Jun 7, 3:15*pm, Jim wrote:
On 07/06/2012 18:26, Paul wrote:





It sounds like you might need to reassess whether or not you trust the
people you loan your computer to in the first place before you employ a
technological solution. Also, ensure that the people you loan it to
trust you enough to behave wisely with the information you are
collecting on them (you _would_ tell them you're copying everything they
do on the computer, right?).


That said, I'm sure there's a relatively trivial way with Word VBA to
save a duplicate copy of a file whenever it is saved. I suppose you
could also look into a keylogger, which would capture everything that is
typed on the keyboard. Regardless of whether or how you choose to
monitor the use of your cmputer, I'd recommend outlining the uses that
you deem appropriate with those who borrow it, and make clear that the
priviledge will be revoked should they violate such expectations.


There are 4 people i lend it too, 2 of them i know i can trust the other
2 i'm unsure and they are the ones i want to check on, I would not tell
them what i'd be doing as there would be no point, once i know i can
trust them then i'd be happy to leave the alone but i have to make sure
first, key logger is an option but i'd rather not install any more
software hence just keeping a copy of each file.-


What you are proposing is nothing short of wiretapping (or the
equivalent). In what country (or in what state of the US) do you live
-- in your polity, is it legal to wiretap with the consent of only one
of the parties concerned?
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Old June 8th 12, 12:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Jim[_8_]
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

On 07/06/2012 23:32, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
What you are proposing is nothing short of wiretapping (or the
equivalent). In what country (or in what state of the US) do you live
-- in your polity, is it legal to wiretap with the consent of only one
of the parties concerned?

For what it's worth i live in the UK, and all i'm doing is making sure
they (the 2 people) are not doing anything I'm unhappy about, what about
putting a tracking device in your car if you lend it someone, no
difference IMO.
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Old June 8th 12, 03:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

On Jun 7, 7:31*pm, Jim wrote:
On 07/06/2012 23:32, Peter T. Daniels wrote: What you are proposing is nothing short of wiretapping (or the
equivalent). In what country (or in what state of the US) do you live
-- in your polity, is it legal to wiretap with the consent of only one
of the parties concerned?


For what it's worth i live in the UK, and all i'm doing is making sure
they (the 2 people) are not doing anything I'm unhappy about, what about
putting a tracking device in your car if you lend it someone, no
difference IMO.


What is the law on wiretapping in the UK? (Or, as for some reason they
took to calling it, "phone hacking"?)

Interestingly, SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) just a few
weeks ago issued a hair-splitting decision on when a warrant is
required to put a tracking device on a car (in most cases it will be
required) and when not.

Again, I don't see that there would be a problem if the borrower knew
about the tracker.
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Old June 9th 12, 12:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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How about a bland statement similar to the one you get on virtually every
type of support call: "This call may be monitored or recorded for quality
assurance purposes," or the like?

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On Jun 7, 7:31 pm, Jim wrote:
On 07/06/2012 23:32, Peter T. Daniels wrote: What you are proposing is
nothing short of wiretapping (or the
equivalent). In what country (or in what state of the US) do you live
-- in your polity, is it legal to wiretap with the consent of only one
of the parties concerned?


For what it's worth i live in the UK, and all i'm doing is making sure
they (the 2 people) are not doing anything I'm unhappy about, what about
putting a tracking device in your car if you lend it someone, no
difference IMO.


What is the law on wiretapping in the UK? (Or, as for some reason they
took to calling it, "phone hacking"?)

Interestingly, SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) just a few
weeks ago issued a hair-splitting decision on when a warrant is
required to put a tracking device on a car (in most cases it will be
required) and when not.

Again, I don't see that there would be a problem if the borrower knew
about the tracker.

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Old June 11th 12, 01:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Paul
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Default Word 2010, making backups/copies of word files

On 2012-06-09, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
How about a bland statement similar to the one you get on virtually every
type of support call: "This call may be monitored or recorded for quality
assurance purposes," or the like?


I've always suspected that "for quality assurance purposes" was code for
"for our own 'CYA.'" My suspicions are frequently confirmed when *I* (a
lowly customer) explain to a "customer service" rep that our
conversation may be recorded on my end for "quality assurance purposes."
They usually don't want to talk to me any more.

Nonetheless, in the OP's case, I think disclosure is a good idea, even
if it's followed by "if you do not consent to this monitoring, do not
use this equipment."

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