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Huge document mystery
Word 2000. I have a document that is all text as far as I know -- no
fancy formatting or pictures for sure. It is almost four single-spaced pages, but its size is 9420KB! I scanned the document for viruses; nothing. I selected the entire text and pasted it into a blank document, but the new document is also 9416KB. What can I do to locate and eliminate whatever is making this document so big? Possible clue: most of the document was typed but on a couple of paragraphs I was testing the speech recognition. Paul in San Francisco |
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Huge document mystery
Therse are "some" of the things that can cause a bloated file:
1) Fast Saves (Tools/Options/Save) 2) Preview Picture (File/Properties) 3) Versions (File/Versions) Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on 4) Revisions (Tools/Track Changes) Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen is turned on" Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present. 5) Embedded True Type fonts (Tools/Options/Save)" Address any that may pertain to the file in question & it should reduce the file size. You might also try copying all but the *last ¶* & pasting into a new blank doc. If you're really desperate (with time on your hands) you can copy/paste half the doc at a time into new files & keep cutting in half until you isolate the cause. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Word 2000. I have a document that is all text as far as I know -- no fancy formatting or pictures for sure. It is almost four single-spaced pages, but its size is 9420KB! I scanned the document for viruses; nothing. I selected the entire text and pasted it into a blank document, but the new document is also 9416KB. What can I do to locate and eliminate whatever is making this document so big? Possible clue: most of the document was typed but on a couple of paragraphs I was testing the speech recognition. Paul in San Francisco |
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Huge document mystery
There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including:
1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases ..rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Word 2000. I have a document that is all text as far as I know -- no fancy formatting or pictures for sure. It is almost four single-spaced pages, but its size is 9420KB! I scanned the document for viruses; nothing. I selected the entire text and pasted it into a blank document, but the new document is also 9416KB. What can I do to locate and eliminate whatever is making this document so big? Possible clue: most of the document was typed but on a couple of paragraphs I was testing the speech recognition. Paul in San Francisco |
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Huge document mystery
Solved. Thanks Bob and Suzanne. Your suggestions led me to the
solution. I unchecked "Embed linguistic data" -- whatever that is -- in tools | options | save. The document is back to normal size. Paul in San Francisco Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including: 1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases .rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. |
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Huge document mystery
Sheesh! Another one to add to the list.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Solved. Thanks Bob and Suzanne. Your suggestions led me to the solution. I unchecked "Embed linguistic data" -- whatever that is -- in tools | options | save. The document is back to normal size. Paul in San Francisco Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including: 1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases .rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. |
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I knew there had to be a reason why I always unchecked that on installation!
Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Sheesh! Another one to add to the list. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Solved. Thanks Bob and Suzanne. Your suggestions led me to the solution. I unchecked "Embed linguistic data" -- whatever that is -- in tools | options | save. The document is back to normal size. Paul in San Francisco Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including: 1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases .rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. |
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Huge document mystery
I don't know that I've ever seen it checked, but perhaps I've also unchecked
it without thinking. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I knew there had to be a reason why I always unchecked that on installation! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Sheesh! Another one to add to the list. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Solved. Thanks Bob and Suzanne. Your suggestions led me to the solution. I unchecked "Embed linguistic data" -- whatever that is -- in tools | options | save. The document is back to normal size. Paul in San Francisco Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including: 1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases .rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. |
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Huge document mystery
Curious - I've never had reason to tamper with that option, but I just
looked on this installation - where I "know" it hasn't been changed - and it's apparently checked by default. -- Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I don't know that I've ever seen it checked, but perhaps I've also unchecked it without thinking. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I knew there had to be a reason why I always unchecked that on installation! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Sheesh! Another one to add to the list. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Solved. Thanks Bob and Suzanne. Your suggestions led me to the solution. I unchecked "Embed linguistic data" -- whatever that is -- in tools | options | save. The document is back to normal size. Paul in San Francisco Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including: 1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases .rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. |
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Huge document mystery
If you're not using Speech Recognition or Handwriting Recognition, it's
undoubtedly safe to clear it. The KB article "Frequently asked questions about the speech recognition feature for Office" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=826853), includes the following question and answer: Why is the file size of my document so large after I save it? There are two options that save information in your Word document and increase the file size of the document: the Save Speech Data option and the Embed linguistic data option. The Save Speech Data option saves speech recognition input for recognition processing and corrections. To turn off this option, click Speech Tools on the Language bar, and then click to clear the Save Speech Data check box. The next time that you save your Word document, this data is removed from your Word document. The Embed linguistic data option affects both speech recognition and handwriting recognition. The Embed linguistic data option can cause you to lose conversion information about non-ink objects. This means that handwriting that appears as text in the document becomes text without handwriting or speech attributes that permit conversion or correction. Also, speech data is a subset of the linguistic data. This means that if you turn off the Embed linguistic data option, you cannot save speech data for recognized text. However, handwriting information is retained. To turn off this option, click Options on the Tools menu. On the Save tab, click to clear the Embed linguistic data check box, and then click OK. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "CyberTaz" typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet wrote in message ... Curious - I've never had reason to tamper with that option, but I just looked on this installation - where I "know" it hasn't been changed - and it's apparently checked by default. -- Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I don't know that I've ever seen it checked, but perhaps I've also unchecked it without thinking. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... I knew there had to be a reason why I always unchecked that on installation! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Sheesh! Another one to add to the list. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Paul MR" wrote in message ... Solved. Thanks Bob and Suzanne. Your suggestions led me to the solution. I unchecked "Embed linguistic data" -- whatever that is -- in tools | options | save. The document is back to normal size. Paul in San Francisco Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: There are a number of reasons for excessive file size, including: 1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options. 2. Preview Pictu Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File | Properties. 3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on close" is not turned on. 4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes): Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on (or that "Final Showing Markup" is displayed). Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes off. 5. Keep track of formatting (Tools | Options | Edit). This is reportedly a major cause of file bloat in Word 2002 and above. 6. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save); embedding fonts should be avoided wherever possible. 7. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics. That is, when you insert the graphic, click the arrow beside Insert in the Picture dialog and choose Link to File rather than Insert or Insert and Link. 8. Embedded objects: These are even worse than ordinary graphics saved with the document. If you see an { EMBED } code, the graphic is an OLE object. Unless you need to be able to edit the object in place, unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9. 9. File format: Make sure you are saving as a Word document; in some cases .rtf (Rich Text Format) files are significantly larger than .doc files. 10. Document corruption: See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/AppErrors/CorruptDoc.htm. |
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