[PaulK]

I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

[Stefan Blom]

See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"PaulK" wrote in message
...
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them
to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just
one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

[grammatim[_2_]]

On Jun 10, 7:41*am, PaulK wrote:
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - *I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).

[PaulK]

Stefan,

Looks like real good info. Thanks. I'm gonna try it.

Paul

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"PaulK" wrote in message
...
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them
to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just
one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

[PaulK]

It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they are
and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
longer book, too.

Paul

"grammatim" wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK wrote:
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).

[PaulK]

O.K. I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accesible.

Any suggestions?????

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"PaulK" wrote in message
...
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them
to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just
one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Have you changed the placement option from "End of document" to "End of
section"?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" wrote in message
...
O.K. I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they
are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accesible.

Any suggestions?????

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...TextAfterNotes.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"PaulK" wrote in message
...
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends
them
to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent
breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but
of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in
just
one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

[PaulK]

O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier to
find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and
discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accessible.

I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections, and
found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter which
doc or section I tried.

So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and found
exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this function? Some
are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.

"PaulK" wrote:

It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they are
and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
longer book, too.

Paul

"grammatim" wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK wrote:
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice -- but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Please see my reply to your previous question.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" wrote in message
...
O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier to
find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and
discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they
are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accessible.

I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections, and
found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter
which
doc or section I tried.

So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and found
exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this function?
Some
are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.

"PaulK" wrote:

It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they
are
and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
longer book, too.

Paul

"grammatim" wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK wrote:
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends
them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any
subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes
to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice --
but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in
just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).

[PaulK]

Suzanne,

That worked! What was confusing to me was that the option was grayed out on
both computers and also in documents created by others (as well as new docs I
created to test it). I had thought it would be unique to each document, but
it must be an option retained in Word itself.

A suggestion for those who may come along later: I was not able to apply
SUPPRESS universally; i.e., "Whole document" or "This point forward." I had
to work through the document section by section kind of like herding the
endnotes toward the back. Another thing to be aware of, if I placed my cursor
in the middle of a section to change the PAGE SETUP options, squirrely things
sometimes happened. So I turned on SHOW/HIDE and was careful to place my
insertion point just before the section mark at the end of each section and
that seemed to work fine.

BTW, Suzanne, I'm in Lillian -- small world! Thanks much for your help and
all of the time you put in to make this community of Word users viable. This
is probably the best part of the MS Word experience, the dedicated MVPs.
Lotus WordPro is my regular word processor -- even more than a decade after
being abandoned by its designer, it's still light years ahead of MS Word in
many areas of usability (my opinion, of course).

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Please see my reply to your previous question.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" wrote in message
...
O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier to
find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout and
discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but they
are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page but
the suppress checkbox never became accessible.

I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections, and
found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter
which
doc or section I tried.

So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and found
exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this function?
Some
are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.

"PaulK" wrote:

It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they
are
and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are an
awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for a
longer book, too.

Paul

"grammatim" wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK wrote:
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003 sends
them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any
subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the endnotes
to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second choice --
but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up in
just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Glad you got it sorted. I was kind of shooting in the dark there because I
haven't actually used this option, but I thought I remembered that oddity
about the way it works.

And thanks for the kind words. That kind of response helps to offset the
whining from users who blast Word without making an effort to learn how to
use it--and then blast those who are trying to help because they provide an
answer that is not what they want to hear!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

That worked! What was confusing to me was that the option was grayed out
on
both computers and also in documents created by others (as well as new
docs I
created to test it). I had thought it would be unique to each document,
but
it must be an option retained in Word itself.

A suggestion for those who may come along later: I was not able to apply
SUPPRESS universally; i.e., "Whole document" or "This point forward." I
had
to work through the document section by section kind of like herding the
endnotes toward the back. Another thing to be aware of, if I placed my
cursor
in the middle of a section to change the PAGE SETUP options, squirrely
things
sometimes happened. So I turned on SHOW/HIDE and was careful to place my
insertion point just before the section mark at the end of each section
and
that seemed to work fine.

BTW, Suzanne, I'm in Lillian -- small world! Thanks much for your help and
all of the time you put in to make this community of Word users viable.
This
is probably the best part of the MS Word experience, the dedicated MVPs.
Lotus WordPro is my regular word processor -- even more than a decade
after
being abandoned by its designer, it's still light years ahead of MS Word
in
many areas of usability (my opinion, of course).

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Please see my reply to your previous question.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"PaulK" wrote in message
...
O.K. I am replying here at the bottom of the que so it will be easier
to
find. As I mentioned above, I verified my FILE / Page Setup / Layout
and
discovered that some
sections have the "SUPPRESS ENDNOTES" checked and others do not, but
they
are
all grayed out. I tried changing some of the other options on the page
but
the suppress checkbox never became accessible.

I also opened a number of existing documents with multiple sections,
and
found that SUPPRESS ENDNOTES was grayed out on all of them, no matter
which
doc or section I tried.

So I went to another laptop (both are running Word 2003 w/VISTA) and
found
exactly the same thing. Why is Word not letting me access this
function?
Some
are checked and some are not, but all are grayed out.

"PaulK" wrote:

It's personal preference. I'm leaving explanatory footnotes where they
are
and just converting the referential footnotes into endnotes. There are
an
awful lot of them to leave at the bottom of the pages (227). Makes for
a
longer book, too.

Paul

"grammatim" wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:41 am, PaulK wrote:
I need to reposition endnotes to precede my biblio and index - I
converted
all referential footnotes to endnotes (227 of them). Word 2003
sends
them to
the back of my document in a format that doesn't permit any
subsequent breaks
or section insertions.
However, since I want to publish this as a book, I need the
endnotes
to
precede other sections such as biblio and index. (I tried placing
the
endnotes at the end of the relevant sections -- my second
choice --
but of
course Word in its usual inscrutable fashion bunched them all up
in
just one
or two sections instead of where they belonged).

Who's making you use endnotes? Footnotes are much easier for the
reader (and for Word, too ...).