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Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond
the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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Possibly the printer driver or a partially corrupt normal.dot.
See the following FAQ for help diagnosing this problem. http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...artingWord.htm Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "Ed" wrote in message ... Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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It could still be AVG - unregister the calling Office DLL by running the
following command line from Windows Start Run regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll" Or It could be a problem with the normal template or an add-in (Acrobat's add-ins are favourites for causing problems) -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Ed wrote: Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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Thanks Terry & Graham.
I moved everything from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP and all but normal.dot from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates. Still slow startup of Word. Changed normal.dot to normal.old and Word starts fast. After closing Word there is a new copy of normal.dot, and from then on slow startups. Also note that on the first startup after removal of normal.dot I can see "Requesting virus scan..." in the lower bar of the Word window when I load a document. That takes about 15 seconds. I was surprised, since I had the AVG Resident shield turned off. Guess I don't know how to turn it off. Graham, what does the regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll do? Is it reversible? Also, how do I check into a Acrobat problem? I do use it. Thanks again. Ed "Ed" wrote in message ... Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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Hi,
I had the same problem. I created a ´.CMD¡ file that systematically deletes any ´normal.dot¡ or ´normal.dotm¡ file at each Windows startup. Word 2007 is now always loading with lightning speed. Cheers, Robert On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:06:24 -0700, Ed wrote: Thanks Terry & Graham. I moved everything from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP and all but normal.dot from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates. Still slow startup of Word. Changed normal.dot to normal.old and Word starts fast. After closing Word there is a new copy of normal.dot, and from then on slow startups. Also note that on the first startup after removal of normal.dot I can see "Requesting virus scan..." in the lower bar of the Word window when I load a document. That takes about 15 seconds. I was surprised, since I had the AVG Resident shield turned off. Guess I don't know how to turn it off. Graham, what does the regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll do? Is it reversible? Also, how do I check into a Acrobat problem? I do use it. Thanks again. Ed "Ed" wrote in message ... Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll
unregisters the dll thus disabling it. You can reverse the process by reregistering it ie remove the /u switch from the command line. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Ed wrote: Thanks Terry & Graham. I moved everything from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP and all but normal.dot from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates. Still slow startup of Word. Changed normal.dot to normal.old and Word starts fast. After closing Word there is a new copy of normal.dot, and from then on slow startups. Also note that on the first startup after removal of normal.dot I can see "Requesting virus scan..." in the lower bar of the Word window when I load a document. That takes about 15 seconds. I was surprised, since I had the AVG Resident shield turned off. Guess I don't know how to turn it off. Graham, what does the regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll do? Is it reversible? Also, how do I check into a Acrobat problem? I do use it. Thanks again. Ed "Ed" wrote in message ... Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it
is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Robert wrote: Hi, I had the same problem. I created a ´.CMD¡ file that systematically deletes any ´normal.dot¡ or ´normal.dotm¡ file at each Windows startup. Word 2007 is now always loading with lightning speed. Cheers, Robert On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:06:24 -0700, Ed wrote: Thanks Terry & Graham. I moved everything from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP and all but normal.dot from C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates. Still slow startup of Word. Changed normal.dot to normal.old and Word starts fast. After closing Word there is a new copy of normal.dot, and from then on slow startups. Also note that on the first startup after removal of normal.dot I can see "Requesting virus scan..." in the lower bar of the Word window when I load a document. That takes about 15 seconds. I was surprised, since I had the AVG Resident shield turned off. Guess I don't know how to turn it off. Graham, what does the regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll do? Is it reversible? Also, how do I check into a Acrobat problem? I do use it. Thanks again. Ed "Ed" wrote in message ... Whenever I open Word it takes about 15 seconds for it to get beyond the opening flash. I though it was AVG doing the Resident Shield check, but I turned that off and it didn't help. Any thoughts? TIA Ed |
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Word launches actually much faster, almost instantaneously. So the benefits
are huge as far as I am concerned. It so happened that Word 2007 was launching slower and slower at each new run on my system. Word 2007 might not be working as it is intended by MS but it is now working to my satisfaction! What more would I want? This said, I don¡¦t have any plug-in installed. And I don¡¦t understand what might be causing this gradual and persistent slow-down¡K I can only think of what you suggested yourself, i.e. that some changes are systematically saved each time I shut Word down. And they take more time to load at each new run. ---------------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:30:07 +0300, Graham Mayor wrote: It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) |
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If you set the 'prompt before saving the normal template' option (Word
Options Advanced Save), you can choose what you allow to be saved in the normal template. The normal template in Word 2007 is quite small compared with it predecessors, and mine, despite the presence of many macros, loads in 2.5 seconds. Not instantly I grant you, but it does what it is supposed to do - store personalisations! -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Robert wrote: Word launches actually much faster, almost instantaneously. So the benefits are huge as far as I am concerned. It so happened that Word 2007 was launching slower and slower at each new run on my system. Word 2007 might not be working as it is intended by MS but it is now working to my satisfaction! What more would I want? This said, I don¡¦t have any plug-in installed. And I don¡¦t understand what might be causing this gradual and persistent slow-down¡K I can only think of what you suggested yourself, i.e. that some changes are systematically saved each time I shut Word down. And they take more time to load at each new run. ---------------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:30:07 +0300, Graham Mayor wrote: It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) |
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Check out your temp folder. When all applications are closed, it should be completely empty. I suggest that from a fresh reboot and before you start any other apps, open the temp folder and delete all its contents.
Then rename normal.dot to normal.bad. Now open Word. Now close Word. Was it fast or slow? After making a change that needs to be saved to normal.dot (say your default page margins or default font), close Word and note the size of normal.dot. If Word starts to get slower, note the size of normal.dot to see if it is bloating. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "Robert" wrote in message ... Word launches actually much faster, almost instantaneously. So the benefits are huge as far as I am concerned. It so happened that Word 2007 was launching slower and slower at each new run on my system. Word 2007 might not be working as it is intended by MS but it is now working to my satisfaction! What more would I want? This said, I don¡¦t have any plug-in installed. And I don¡¦t understand what might be causing this gradual and persistent slow-down¡K I can only think of what you suggested yourself, i.e. that some changes are systematically saved each time I shut Word down. And they take more time to load at each new run. ---------------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:30:07 +0300, Graham Mayor wrote: It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) |
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Graham,
I use Word 2002. Is it subject to the same problem as 2003? Ed "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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Graham,
What kind of personalizations are you referring to here? I haven't written any macros that I know of, but I do have some paragraph styles. Also, I do use Doc-2-Help, which is loaded with them I expect. However, in recent tests I've moved all the D2H .dot files out of the STARTUP directories and it didn't seem to help. Ed "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... If you set the 'prompt before saving the normal template' option (Word Options Advanced Save), you can choose what you allow to be saved in the normal template. The normal template in Word 2007 is quite small compared with it predecessors, and mine, despite the presence of many macros, loads in 2.5 seconds. Not instantly I grant you, but it does what it is supposed to do - store personalisations! -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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Terry,
My normal.doc is 46KB. If I change it to normal.old the fresh one created the next time I open Word is 29KB. But, as I said, it will still take 15 seconds the next time I start Word. Ed "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Check out your temp folder. When all applications are closed, it should be completely empty. I suggest that from a fresh reboot and before you start any other apps, open the temp folder and delete all its contents. Then rename normal.dot to normal.bad. Now open Word. Now close Word. Was it fast or slow? After making a change that needs to be saved to normal.dot (say your default page margins or default font), close Word and note the size of normal.dot. If Word starts to get slower, note the size of normal.dot to see if it is bloating. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP |
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Graham and Terry,
Thank you very much for your tips and efforts. But to be honest with you I am quite happy with the default template when I am using it. As a matter of fact, I use specific or personalized templates most of the time. So deleting the ¡§normal¡¨ template is no problem. It has two benefits: my ¡§Normal¡¨ template remains set at its default values (which is sometimes handy), and Word loads fast (which is a real blessing). I haven¡¦t monitored the size of the ¡§Normal.dotm¡¨ file on my system but one thing is certain, if I leave things to run as they normally do, Word starts loading slower and slower at each new run until it can take up to 15 seconds to simply load an empty new document. When my ¡§Normal.dotm¡¨ file is deleted before running Word, Word launches almost as fast as Notepad does. Regarding the temp folder, it is systematically emptied by a script file each time my system is shut down. And so is the Word ¡§Normal.dotm¡¨ file. By the way, I don¡¦t have any ¡§Normal.dot¡¨ file. Should I have one? ---------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:30:20 +0200, Robert wrote: Word launches actually much faster, almost instantaneously. So the benefits are huge as far as I am concerned. It so happened that Word 2007 was launching slower and slower at each new run on my system. Word 2007 might not be working as it is intended by MS but it is now working to my satisfaction! What more would I want? This said, I don¡¦t have any plug-in installed. And I don¡¦t understand what might be causing this gradual and persistent slow-down¡K I can only think of what you suggested yourself, i.e. that some changes are systematically saved each time I shut Word down. And they take more time to load at each new run. ---------------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:30:07 +0300, Graham Mayor wrote: It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) |
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Graham,
That's it! If I unregister the AVG dll Word pops up in immeasurable time. Registering it takes me back to 15 seconds. Now, I'll have to decide whether fast opening of Word is worth the risk of infection. Maybe disconnect from the Internet when I'm doing a lot of Word stuff. Thanks! Ed "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll unregisters the dll thus disabling it. You can reverse the process by reregistering it ie remove the /u switch from the command line. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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No, you will have a normal.dotm for Word 2007.
Terry "Robert" wrote in message . .. Graham and Terry, Thank you very much for your tips and efforts. But to be honest with you I am quite happy with the default template when I am using it. As a matter of fact, I use specific or personalized templates most of the time. So deleting the ¡§normal¡¨ template is no problem. It has two benefits: my ¡§Normal¡¨ template remains set at its default values (which is sometimes handy), and Word loads fast (which is a real blessing). I haven¡¦t monitored the size of the ¡§Normal.dotm¡¨ file on my system but one thing is certain, if I leave things to run as they normally do, Word starts loading slower and slower at each new run until it can take up to 15 seconds to simply load an empty new document. When my ¡§Normal.dotm¡¨ file is deleted before running Word, Word launches almost as fast as Notepad does. Regarding the temp folder, it is systematically emptied by a script file each time my system is shut down. And so is the Word ¡§Normal.dotm¡¨ file. By the way, I don¡¦t have any ¡§Normal.dot¡¨ file. Should I have one? ---------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:30:20 +0200, Robert wrote: Word launches actually much faster, almost instantaneously. So the benefits are huge as far as I am concerned. It so happened that Word 2007 was launching slower and slower at each new run on my system. Word 2007 might not be working as it is intended by MS but it is now working to my satisfaction! What more would I want? This said, I don¡¦t have any plug-in installed. And I don¡¦t understand what might be causing this gradual and persistent slow-down¡K I can only think of what you suggested yourself, i.e. that some changes are systematically saved each time I shut Word down. And they take more time to load at each new run. ---------------------------------- On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:30:07 +0300, Graham Mayor wrote: It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) |
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Definitely.
Terry "Ed" wrote in message ... Graham, I use Word 2002. Is it subject to the same problem as 2003? Ed "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... It might be faster, but it is now incapable of working as intended, so it is a ridiculous idea. If Word starts slowly, there is a good reason for it and that is usually to do with add-ins (though Word 2003 will start slowly next time it is started after saving a change to normal.dot) -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP |
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I don't know about AVG, but disabling the Norton AntiVirus Office Plugin
doesn't compromise security at all provided that Auto-Protect is left enabled. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Ed" wrote in message ... Graham, That's it! If I unregister the AVG dll Word pops up in immeasurable time. Registering it takes me back to 15 seconds. Now, I'll have to decide whether fast opening of Word is worth the risk of infection. Maybe disconnect from the Internet when I'm doing a lot of Word stuff. Thanks! Ed "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG7\avgoff2k.dll unregisters the dll thus disabling it. You can reverse the process by reregistering it ie remove the /u switch from the command line. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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Suzanne,
I just did a Google on avgoff2k.dll. Immediately found a thread on the issue, and one of the replies pointed to a Grisoft FAQ that describes the trick Graham gave us. So, you're right, it's directly related to Office. Of course, that's what its name implies now that I thank trouble to read it! But, if it doesn't compromise security to turn it off, why is it there in the first place? Te solution works, that's for sure! Ed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I don't know about AVG, but disabling the Norton AntiVirus Office Plugin doesn't compromise security at all provided that Auto-Protect is left enabled. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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But, if it doesn't compromise security to turn it off, why is it there in
the first place? That's what we've been asking ever since NAV first incorporated the Office Plug-in. Even Symantec doesn't know. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Ed" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I just did a Google on avgoff2k.dll. Immediately found a thread on the issue, and one of the replies pointed to a Grisoft FAQ that describes the trick Graham gave us. So, you're right, it's directly related to Office. Of course, that's what its name implies now that I thank trouble to read it! But, if it doesn't compromise security to turn it off, why is it there in the first place? Te solution works, that's for sure! Ed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I don't know about AVG, but disabling the Norton AntiVirus Office Plugin doesn't compromise security at all provided that Auto-Protect is left enabled. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But, if it doesn't compromise security to turn it off, why is it there in the first place? That's what we've been asking ever since NAV first incorporated the Office Plug-in. Even Symantec doesn't know. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Suppose I'm in Word and find a photo or something on the Web I'd like to incorporate in my document. If the Office security plug-in is not activated, am I not subject to a virus in that photo? Seems like there's gotta be a reason for it, as the AV companies have enough to do already. Just curious. Ed Ed |
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Ed
There's as much chance of the photo infecting you with a virus when you view it in Internet Explorer (or whatever) as it is when you copy it into Word. If you download the picture, then the AV will scan it anyway. As Suzanne has stated, we have repeatedly asked Norton (Symantec) to explain what the plug-in does in Office and they couldn't : they just didn't know. Millions of us are happily working without an Office AV plug-in: just don't worry about it. Terry "Ed" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... But, if it doesn't compromise security to turn it off, why is it there in the first place? That's what we've been asking ever since NAV first incorporated the Office Plug-in. Even Symantec doesn't know. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Suppose I'm in Word and find a photo or something on the Web I'd like to incorporate in my document. If the Office security plug-in is not activated, am I not subject to a virus in that photo? Seems like there's gotta be a reason for it, as the AV companies have enough to do already. Just curious. Ed Ed |
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Hi Suzanne,
The 'hooks' are part of the MS Anti-Virus API. It's pupose is mentioned briefly in the 'Virus' section of the Office 2003 Security White Paper at http://office.microsoft.com/download...AM102424861033 There's a lot of tech details on MSDN, such as http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...71(VS.85).aspx ======= "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That's what we've been asking ever since NAV first incorporated the Office Plug-in. Even Symantec doesn't know. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Aside from the fact that the author of
http://office.microsoft.com/download...AM102424861033 doesn't know how to spell "supersede" (and either wasn't using or ignored Word's spell check), the white paper seems to be pretty much saying that a decent AV app can do the necessary without an Office plug-in, but it may impact performance. If the plug-ins didn't affect usability and performance even more negatively, this might be relevant. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, The 'hooks' are part of the MS Anti-Virus API. It's pupose is mentioned briefly in the 'Virus' section of the Office 2003 Security White Paper at http://office.microsoft.com/download...AM102424861033 There's a lot of tech details on MSDN, such as http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...71(VS.85).aspx ======= "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... That's what we've been asking ever since NAV first incorporated the Office Plug-in. Even Symantec doesn't know. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Hi Suzanne,
Well, you asked about information on what the 'hooks' were for, so spelling is a key bit of information g. You mean you didn't like the alternate suggestion from Spell check of super ceded ? The plug-in covers/covered one possible hole in the apps, and that was a timing issue between when a request went to Windows and an antivirus check was run there and then when the 'safe' file was passed to an Office app. At the time it was first introduced, MS wasn't 'in' the antivirus/security business, but now, with OneCare, they are, and over time the 3rd party security products have gotten better as well, so the risk is likely smaller these days, but it's said that this can also only make those on a path to 'break it' more determined than when it was 'easier' As the white paper points out the API is improved in Office 2003 and it has been improved again for Office 2007 as well as for Windows and Internet Explorer versions. Is there a greater risk without the plug-ins? Yes. Is it a big risk? Not until the first time someone exploits it on a wide scale, or it happens to 'you' g [and of course that would only happen when on deadline]. ============= "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Aside from the fact that the author of http://office.microsoft.com/download...AM102424861033 doesn't know how to spell "supersede" (and either wasn't using or ignored Word's spell check), the white paper seems to be pretty much saying that a decent AV app can do the necessary without an Office plug-in, but it may impact performance. If the plug-ins didn't affect usability and performance even more negatively, this might be relevant. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Hi Bob
So by implication, AVs that don't have this 'feature' (like NOD32) are inferior to those that do? Terry "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Well, you asked about information on what the 'hooks' were for, so spelling is a key bit of information g. You mean you didn't like the alternate suggestion from Spell check of super ceded ? The plug-in covers/covered one possible hole in the apps, and that was a timing issue between when a request went to Windows and an antivirus check was run there and then when the 'safe' file was passed to an Office app. At the time it was first introduced, MS wasn't 'in' the antivirus/security business, but now, with OneCare, they are, and over time the 3rd party security products have gotten better as well, so the risk is likely smaller these days, but it's said that this can also only make those on a path to 'break it' more determined than when it was 'easier' As the white paper points out the API is improved in Office 2003 and it has been improved again for Office 2007 as well as for Windows and Internet Explorer versions. Is there a greater risk without the plug-ins? Yes. Is it a big risk? Not until the first time someone exploits it on a wide scale, or it happens to 'you' g [and of course that would only happen when on deadline]. ============= "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Aside from the fact that the author of http://office.microsoft.com/download...AM102424861033 doesn't know how to spell "supersede" (and either wasn't using or ignored Word's spell check), the white paper seems to be pretty much saying that a decent AV app can do the necessary without an Office plug-in, but it may impact performance. If the plug-ins didn't affect usability and performance even more negatively, this might be relevant. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Hi Terry,
As different AVIs use their own methods and techniques to watch and sweep, whether the do it through an add-in reflects a design approach decision for a particular product probably more than effectiveness of the method chosen and the particular environment. I'm guessing that calling the API, loading, releasing, etc takes time and some of the products that used or looked at using the hooks that are available through MS Office, IE and others may from time to time hear 'next version' when they ask for improvements with their MS interactions in that arena ============== "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Hi Bob So by implication, AVs that don't have this 'feature' (like NOD32) are inferior to those that do? Terry -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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