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I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some
recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I €śreply to all€ť and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by
them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook
(exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here,
but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have
performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as €śsending too many emails€ť. The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Do the merged emails end up in the recipient's Junk Mail folder?
-- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "MechEngr" wrote in message ... Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as "sending too many emails". The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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No. They just do not show up.
If I go to Outlook Sent box, the emails from the merge are there. If I click on "Reply to all" and send, the email will be delivered to both addresses (the old sender and reciepant). "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote: Do the merged emails end up in the recipient's Junk Mail folder? -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "MechEngr" wrote in message ... Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as "sending too many emails". The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Well, interestingly enough, when Word merges to -mail supposedly using
"plain text" it seems actually to send an HTML-encoded MIME part - the sample below is from Word (I have changed some of the address details) 2007 but I believe Word 2003 was the same. And as I said before, I think /Word/ is doing this, not /Outlook/. I don't know of a resultion but SPAM traps that disallow HTML mail may disallow this, but allow a plain text mail from Outlook, which would at least explain what is going on. It's also possible that the ones generated by Word actually have an unusual structure for this day and age. (The body content was a couple of blank lines surrounding "0 ") X-Envelope-From: Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by mta10.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m7VHf751029541 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:07 +0100 Received: from b.c.d ([1.2.3.4]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1KZqvC-000Fun-7K for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:41:06 +0000 Subject: mysubject plain Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mysubject plain X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 thread-index: AckLkL6jHzOWl58RRFqb0UFQCYj1Dw== From: "Peter Jamieson" To: X-Envelope-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 0 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD TITLEmysubject plain/TITLE /HEAD BODY !-- Converted from text/plain format -- PFONT SIZE=3D20 = BR /FONT /P /BODY /HTML ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693-- -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Do the merged emails end up in the recipient's Junk Mail folder? -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "MechEngr" wrote in message ... Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as "sending too many emails". The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Ok. I have been trying an Outlook add-in "Easy Mail Merge" and it seams to
go around this isses and will mail out both Plain text and HTML emails. This may be my solution. Thanks for your help. MechENG "Peter Jamieson" wrote: Well, interestingly enough, when Word merges to -mail supposedly using "plain text" it seems actually to send an HTML-encoded MIME part - the sample below is from Word (I have changed some of the address details) 2007 but I believe Word 2003 was the same. And as I said before, I think /Word/ is doing this, not /Outlook/. I don't know of a resultion but SPAM traps that disallow HTML mail may disallow this, but allow a plain text mail from Outlook, which would at least explain what is going on. It's also possible that the ones generated by Word actually have an unusual structure for this day and age. (The body content was a couple of blank lines surrounding "0 ") X-Envelope-From: Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by mta10.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m7VHf751029541 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:07 +0100 Received: from b.c.d ([1.2.3.4]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1KZqvC-000Fun-7K for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:41:06 +0000 Subject: mysubject plain Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mysubject plain X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 thread-index: AckLkL6jHzOWl58RRFqb0UFQCYj1Dw== From: "Peter Jamieson" To: X-Envelope-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 0 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD TITLEmysubject plain/TITLE /HEAD BODY !-- Converted from text/plain format -- PFONT SIZE=3D20 = BR /FONT /P /BODY /HTML ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693-- -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Do the merged emails end up in the recipient's Junk Mail folder? -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "MechEngr" wrote in message ... Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as "sending too many emails". The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Has "Easy Mail Merge" solved your problem? In testing an email merge from
Word 2003, through Outlook, I noticed the exact same issue you described. ClassicalBass "MechEngr" wrote: Ok. I have been trying an Outlook add-in "Easy Mail Merge" and it seams to go around this isses and will mail out both Plain text and HTML emails. This may be my solution. Thanks for your help. MechENG "Peter Jamieson" wrote: Well, interestingly enough, when Word merges to -mail supposedly using "plain text" it seems actually to send an HTML-encoded MIME part - the sample below is from Word (I have changed some of the address details) 2007 but I believe Word 2003 was the same. And as I said before, I think /Word/ is doing this, not /Outlook/. I don't know of a resultion but SPAM traps that disallow HTML mail may disallow this, but allow a plain text mail from Outlook, which would at least explain what is going on. It's also possible that the ones generated by Word actually have an unusual structure for this day and age. (The body content was a couple of blank lines surrounding "0 ") X-Envelope-From: Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by mta10.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m7VHf751029541 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:07 +0100 Received: from b.c.d ([1.2.3.4]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1KZqvC-000Fun-7K for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:41:06 +0000 Subject: mysubject plain Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mysubject plain X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 thread-index: AckLkL6jHzOWl58RRFqb0UFQCYj1Dw== From: "Peter Jamieson" To: X-Envelope-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 0 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD TITLEmysubject plain/TITLE /HEAD BODY !-- Converted from text/plain format -- PFONT SIZE=3D20 = BR /FONT /P /BODY /HTML ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693-- -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Do the merged emails end up in the recipient's Junk Mail folder? -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "MechEngr" wrote in message ... Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as "sending too many emails". The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Yes, for me the "Easy Mail Merge" took care of my problem. I have been using
the Outlook Add-in quite a bit and have found only one thing that I wish it could do... attach different documents to the individual emails, manually or otherwise. I do like the rich text email format from the Easy Mail Merge better than the plain-text emails from the Word merge. €śEasy Mail Merge€ť has a trial demo, but it is limited to 10 emails. Good luck. MechENG "ClassicalBass" wrote: Has "Easy Mail Merge" solved your problem? In testing an email merge from Word 2003, through Outlook, I noticed the exact same issue you described. ClassicalBass "MechEngr" wrote: Ok. I have been trying an Outlook add-in "Easy Mail Merge" and it seams to go around this isses and will mail out both Plain text and HTML emails. This may be my solution. Thanks for your help. MechENG "Peter Jamieson" wrote: Well, interestingly enough, when Word merges to -mail supposedly using "plain text" it seems actually to send an HTML-encoded MIME part - the sample below is from Word (I have changed some of the address details) 2007 but I believe Word 2003 was the same. And as I said before, I think /Word/ is doing this, not /Outlook/. I don't know of a resultion but SPAM traps that disallow HTML mail may disallow this, but allow a plain text mail from Outlook, which would at least explain what is going on. It's also possible that the ones generated by Word actually have an unusual structure for this day and age. (The body content was a couple of blank lines surrounding "0 ") X-Envelope-From: Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by mta10.mx.cix.co.uk (8.13.4/CIX/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m7VHf751029541 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:07 +0100 Received: from b.c.d ([1.2.3.4]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1KZqvC-000Fun-7K for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:41:06 +0000 Subject: mysubject plain Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mysubject plain X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 thread-index: AckLkL6jHzOWl58RRFqb0UFQCYj1Dw== From: "Peter Jamieson" To: X-Envelope-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 0 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD TITLEmysubject plain/TITLE /HEAD BODY !-- Converted from text/plain format -- PFONT SIZE=3D20 = BR /FONT /P /BODY /HTML ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B90.BEA34693-- -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... Do the merged emails end up in the recipient's Junk Mail folder? -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "MechEngr" wrote in message ... Thanks Peter. I am merging into plain text email from Word2003. I have performed several tests with only two records in the distribution list, to eliminate the possibility of being seen as "sending too many emails". The receiving server seams to know the difference between being sent directly from Outlook or from a Word merge to Outlook. There must be some hidden text attached to the plain-text email that gives it away. MechEng "Peter Jamieson" wrote: I can't do the Word 2003 + Outlook 2007 combination that you are using here, but sending from Word 2007 and Outlook 2007 /as an attachment) the source code of the e-mail messages look identical (barring expected details such as slightl differences in message ID etc. etc. ). i.e., they have the same headers - there's nothing in there to indicate any significant difference to a SPAM engine, unless they are somehow picking up on the fact that you are sending a lot of them. However, you could be merging to HTML format or plain text format, or sending a rich text MIME format message that does not have an attachment, in which case the two messages could look quite different to a SPAM trap engine. (FWIW, as far as I know, when you merge to email from Word, you Outlook format settings have little or no influence over how the message is formatted. That is not the case when you construct your message in Outlook). -- Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk "MechEngr" wrote in message ... You missed the point of the question: An email sent directly from Outlook (exactly same message, same mail server, same account) WILL be received by the recipient (in this case, it is my work email), but when sent through Outlook using the mail merge from MS Word, the message is sent, not received. Something about the merge process is tagging the email differently that if sent directly from Outlook. Thanks for you help. "Graham Mayor" wrote: You cannot insist that e-mail messages you send to people are not treated by them as spam. If the recipients are complaining about the omission then it is up to them to mark your sending address as safe. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MechEngr wrote: I have the e-mail merge working from Word2003 and Outlook2007, but some recipients are not getting the emails. I can see the email has been sent (they are in the sent box) and if I "reply to all" and send the email directly from Outlook, the recipients will receive the email. I have tried the test with as few as two email recipient merges and the email still does not reach the intended recipients. I am sure that the email is being filtered by the receiving server spam filters when coming from the Word merge process, but not when sent directly from Outlook. Any thoughts or ways around this? |
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Thanks, that's just what I needed to know.
ClassicalBass "MechEngr" wrote: Yes, for me the "Easy Mail Merge" took care of my problem. I have been using the Outlook Add-in quite a bit and have found only one thing that I wish it could do... attach different documents to the individual emails, manually or otherwise. I do like the rich text email format from the Easy Mail Merge better than the plain-text emails from the Word merge. €śEasy Mail Merge€ť has a trial demo, but it is limited to 10 emails. Good luck. MechENG "ClassicalBass" wrote: Has "Easy Mail Merge" solved your problem? In testing an email merge from Word 2003, through Outlook, I noticed the exact same issue you described. ClassicalBass |
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