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How to install macros and menus in 2007
This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007." Two questions: 1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT, but don't see how to add anything to it. 2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer. Could someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this? Thanks. As an example of the difficulties I'm running into, Bob Buckland said I should save Normal.dot under another name and put it in Word 2007. But when you save a template with a new name, or copy a template and rename the copy, the project name changes (doesn't it?), in which case the buttons on the menu will no longer point to the macros in that project, and so the buttons will not run the macros. Hi Larry, The Ribbon collapses if you use Ctrl+F1. You can, using the links in the previous method, to use RibbonX to customize the ribbon to remove or replace entire chunks (groups) within the ribbon tabs and to add new tabs. Customizations of older Word version built in Word menus and toolbars usually don't come over in Word 2007. Custom toolbars and menus of your own can and by default work from the 'Add-in' tabs. You can create 'clones' of the older version drop down menus or toolbars (hold ctrl key while working in the older version to create a duplicate of the built in menus, but with a slightly modified menu or toolbar name, for example File, as File97) Word 2007 usually retains the button images from the prior edition, but the button editing/pasting capability of prior versions is not in the apps in 2007. Rather than replacing Normal.dotm save a copy of your old Normal.dot under a new file name and then open it in Word 2007. The Custom toolbar and Custom menu choices are placeholders on the QAT. They 'fill' with the contents of the Add-Ins tab when it's populated, but revert to blank placeholders again if the other document (Add-In tab content) is taken away. =================== "Larry" wrote in message ... Bob, I don't have 2007 in front of me now, but here's what I'm trying to figure out: In my Normal template in Word 97, I have my own custom menus, two of them are on the regular Menu bar which also includes the usual menus. But also the built-in menus are highly customized by me, with my own macros stuck in those menus. For example, I have special macros of my own on the File menu, the Tools menu, the Window menu, and so on. The other custom menu (called Extra) is on its own custom toolbar called Extra which I only display when I need it. I also have a customized toolbar that I use in place of the Standard and Formatting toolbars, so that I normally have only one toolbar displayed. Now, getting back to Word 2007, let's say I replaced the Normal template in Word 2007 with my own Normal template from Word 97. I click my custom toolbar in Add-ins and that adds it to the so-called Quick Access toolbar. Does that mean the custom toolbar is displayed permanently as a toolbar? How does a toolbar display ON a toolbar? I'll have to check this out. And how would the button images from Word 97 translate into the Word 2007 environment? And what about my custom menus that are on the regular menu bar? Since a menu does not exist by itself--it has to be part of the Menu bar or part of a toolbar, how can a menu by by itself be loaded in Word 2007? Suppose I wanted to keep access to all my existing menus, both my custom menus and the regular menus to which I've added my own macros. How would I do that? I suppose I'd have to create a new custom toolbar, and copy move all the menus (regular and custom) from the regular Word 97 Menu bar to that custom toolbar, and then add that toolbar to Word 2007. Is this possible? And then I would have my own complete menu bar as a permanent part of Word 2007? Larry -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Hi Larry,
A new utility has just been released that may help you through your pain. See http://www.toolbartoggle.com You can get a 5% discount on any order using the coupon code: MVPCINDY You can create menus with your macros, as well as buttons. You can create your own toolbars, and you can float them. Doesn't give you everything we had prior to Word 2007, but it's an improvement on what comes out of the box... This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007." Two questions: 1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT, but don't see how to add anything to it. 2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer. Could someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Is this your creation, Cindy?
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Cindy M." wrote in message news:VA.00000c22.01918ea5@speedy... Hi Larry, A new utility has just been released that may help you through your pain. See http://www.toolbartoggle.com You can get a 5% discount on any order using the coupon code: MVPCINDY You can create menus with your macros, as well as buttons. You can create your own toolbars, and you can float them. Doesn't give you everything we had prior to Word 2007, but it's an improvement on what comes out of the box... This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007." Two questions: 1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT, but don't see how to add anything to it. 2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer. Could someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Hi Suzanne,
Is this your creation, Cindy? No, I'm just a "sounding board" and collaborateuse :-) The company (well person, actually) who did all the work isn't someone who really uses Office. If anyone tries it out and has suggestions they can give them to me to pass along for the planned version 2.0. -- Cindy Meister |
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Thanks. I did see your announcement in the private groups after I posted
that. Between this add-in and Patrick's, it sounds like it may be possible to satisfy all the diehards. g -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Cindy M." wrote in message news:VA.00000c28.00383f5a@speedy... Hi Suzanne, Is this your creation, Cindy? No, I'm just a "sounding board" and collaborateuse :-) The company (well person, actually) who did all the work isn't someone who really uses Office. If anyone tries it out and has suggestions they can give them to me to pass along for the planned version 2.0. -- Cindy Meister |
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Hi Suzanne,
Between this add-in and Patrick's, it sounds like it may be possible to satisfy all the diehards. g Pretty much, we hope :-) What I, personally, like about this new tool is being able to put together a task-oriented toolbar that I can position where I need to have it! BTW, the newest version now supports adding AutoText entries to "toolbar buttons", something 2007 won't let you do at all, anymore, as I recall. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Thanks, Cindy, I'll check it out.
But does this mean that the difficulties of creating toolbars and menus in 2007 (without the third-party help) are, in practical terms, too large to overcome? What a great company Microsoft is. They create such a great "advance" in their most important consumer product, that now long-time users have to purchase special tools from _other_ companies just to go on using Microsoft's product! What lovable people. Larry "Cindy M." wrote in message news:VA.00000c22.01918ea5@speedy... Hi Larry, A new utility has just been released that may help you through your pain. See http://www.toolbartoggle.com You can get a 5% discount on any order using the coupon code: MVPCINDY You can create menus with your macros, as well as buttons. You can create your own toolbars, and you can float them. Doesn't give you everything we had prior to Word 2007, but it's an improvement on what comes out of the box... This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007." Two questions: 1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT, but don't see how to add anything to it. 2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer. Could someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Cindy,
Are you sure this is the correct address? When I go there, there is a blank page that says: Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash Larry |
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Does this produce allow for the de-activation of the Ribbon (not just its
temporary minimization)? Another idea: what this product ought to provide would be a menu bar and an out of the box set of menus similar to those in the earlier versions of Word. Users would then not have to create everything from scratch if they wanted to work with regular menus. "Cindy M." wrote in message news:VA.00000c22.01918ea5@speedy... Hi Larry, A new utility has just been released that may help you through your pain. See http://www.toolbartoggle.com You can get a 5% discount on any order using the coupon code: MVPCINDY You can create menus with your macros, as well as buttons. You can create your own toolbars, and you can float them. Doesn't give you everything we had prior to Word 2007, but it's an improvement on what comes out of the box... This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007." Two questions: 1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT, but don't see how to add anything to it. 2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer. Could someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Hi Larry,
I take it the link is working for you, now? It does for me... Does this produce allow for the de-activation of the Ribbon (not just its temporary minimization)? No. Another idea: what this product ought to provide would be a menu bar and an out of the box set of menus similar to those in the earlier versions of Word. Users would then not have to create everything from scratch if they wanted to work with regular menus. I'm a bit puzzled about what you're seeing, I must admit. Both ToolbarToggleLite and the full version have a menu bar with all the 2003 menus (as long as the commands still function in 2007). Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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I'm a bit puzzled about what you're seeing, I must admit. No, I never got that page to load normally. I still see just the blue background and the one line of text: "Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash" Both ToolbarToggleLite and the full version have a menu bar with all the 2003 menus (as long as the commands still function in 2007). That's great. But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there, General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options." Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely if you want (not just minimize it?) "Cindy M." wrote in message news:VA.00000c77.0118873f@speedy... Hi Larry, I take it the link is working for you, now? It does for me... Does this produce allow for the de-activation of the Ribbon (not just its temporary minimization)? No. Another idea: what this product ought to provide would be a menu bar and an out of the box set of menus similar to those in the earlier versions of Word. Users would then not have to create everything from scratch if they wanted to work with regular menus. I'm a bit puzzled about what you're seeing, I must admit. Both ToolbarToggleLite and the full version have a menu bar with all the 2003 menus (as long as the commands still function in 2007). Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Have you considered simply staying with Word 97? You've noted several times,
it fits your needs and you don't really need Word 2007. I can't seem to figure out why you are bothering to upgrade... "Larry" wrote in message ... That's great. But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there, General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options." Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely if you want (not just minimize it?) |
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Hi Larry,
"Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash" apparently, that needs to be installed to view the site. I've notified the site manager... Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely if you want (not just minimize it?) No. Nor would you want to do so, as newer commands aren't going to be available over the old menus (at least, that's not currently planned) But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there, General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options." If you haven't been able to view the site, nor worked with Office 2007, then there's little use guessing :-) The old dialog boxes are still there, as long as the functionality is still available in 2007. And no, it doesn't take you to the new "Options" list. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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For my own work, I may stay with Word 97, though I would need to buy my own
copy since what I have came with my computer. Eventually older applications might stop working with newer hardware. But right now I'm helping a friend who has 2007. Also one needs to stay abreast of what's happening in Word. And it's not just about me. It's about the fact that MS imposed this monstrosity on its users. What I'd like to do when I get a new computer, which I need to do but keep putting off, is partition the harddrive so I could have different versions of Word. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... Have you considered simply staying with Word 97? You've noted several times, it fits your needs and you don't really need Word 2007. I can't seem to figure out why you are bothering to upgrade... "Larry" wrote in message ... That's great. But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there, General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options." Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely if you want (not just minimize it?) |
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I work on 2007 on someone else's computer, who may be interested in Toolbar
Toggle. Whenever I'm visiting the newsgroup I'm on my own computer. If the Ribbon remains, wouldn't there be a conflict between the Ribbon keystrokes and the older menu keystrokes? For example, Alt+W opens the Window menu in, uh, Word "Classic," I guess we'll call it now. But in Word 2007, Alt+W opens the View tab of the Ribbon, and if memory serves, it opens the view tab along with the entire Ribbon if the Ribbon is minimized. So if you have these custom menus displayed and press Alt+W, what happens? "Cindy M." wrote in message news:VA.00000c81.00c2bda3@speedy... Hi Larry, "Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash" apparently, that needs to be installed to view the site. I've notified the site manager... Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely if you want (not just minimize it?) No. Nor would you want to do so, as newer commands aren't going to be available over the old menus (at least, that's not currently planned) But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there, General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options." If you haven't been able to view the site, nor worked with Office 2007, then there's little use guessing :-) The old dialog boxes are still there, as long as the functionality is still available in 2007. And no, it doesn't take you to the new "Options" list. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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ToolbarToggle won't interfere. the new "Window" keystroke is Alt+W
+W. |
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I'm with the Classic but because there is a product called "Classic
Menus" and I wouldn't want to confuse people (its actually the same product features we give away with our ToolbarToggle Lite which you get when you purchase ToolbarToggle Full) There won't be a conflict because we chose not to trap top most accelerator keys - because people may have modified them for their own use which would be upsetting if we grabbed them. But once a ToolbarToggle toolbar or menu or dialog appears - you can continue using accelerator keys. Its really transparent since you get to your goal in any case |
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