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Headers & Footers Again!
Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & footers.
(My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using windows 98) When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always varies with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these items without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the space bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they toggle on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for inserting required alignments! Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or maybe the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind enough to put me straight please. Regards, .. -- Alasdair |
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You can set tab stops with the desired alignment (from FormatTabs).
If you need more information about tabs, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/SettingTabs.htm. Alternatively, you can use a single-row table in the header (footer) with a column for each entry and then format the text of the cells to have the desired alignment. -- Stefan Blom "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & footers. (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using windows 98) When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always varies with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these items without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the space bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they toggle on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for inserting required alignments! Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or maybe the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind enough to put me straight please. Regards, . -- Alasdair |
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Thanks Stefan,
Going right now to grab the "Setting Tabs" info. I have my first Proper Word Exam tonight - 7pm U.K. time, so just in time to do some fast reading :-) Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "Stefan Blom" wrote: You can set tab stops with the desired alignment (from FormatTabs). If you need more information about tabs, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/SettingTabs.htm. Alternatively, you can use a single-row table in the header (footer) with a column for each entry and then format the text of the cells to have the desired alignment. -- Stefan Blom "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & footers. (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using windows 98) When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always varies with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these items without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the space bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they toggle on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for inserting required alignments! Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or maybe the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind enough to put me straight please. Regards, . -- Alasdair |
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Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have center
tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve alignment! -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & footers. (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using windows 98) When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always varies with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these items without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the space bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they toggle on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for inserting required alignments! Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or maybe the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind enough to put me straight please. Regards, . -- Alasdair |
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That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from
Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and Footers STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new page width. -- Terry Farrell - Word MVP http://word.mvps.org/ "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have center : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve alignment! : -- : : Charles Kenyon : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & : footers. : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using : windows : 98) : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always : varies : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these : items : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the : space : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they : toggle : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for : inserting : required alignments! Can anyone : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or : maybe : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind : enough : to put me straight please. : Regards, : . : -- : Alasdair : : |
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Thank you both,
(Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait Plus exam last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank you guys) then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not let me save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 hour period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he had to switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as would be Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for original files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be allowed to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked on last night. So Thanks again to you all, Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "TF" wrote: That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and Footers STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new page width. -- Terry Farrell - Word MVP http://word.mvps.org/ "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have center : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve alignment! : -- : : Charles Kenyon : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & : footers. : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using : windows : 98) : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always : varies : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these : items : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the : space : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they : toggle : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for : inserting : required alignments! Can anyone : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or : maybe : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind : enough : to put me straight please. : Regards, : . : -- : Alasdair : : |
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Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within Word.
If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in Word, act as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR drives as well.) Don't use Word to: Open a document on a floppy Print a document on a floppy Edit a document on a floppy Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and forth using Windows. I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new formatted disk each time you save and don't do any editing. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thank you both, (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait Plus exam last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank you guys) then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not let me save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 hour period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he had to switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as would be Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for original files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be allowed to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked on last night. So Thanks again to you all, Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "TF" wrote: That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and Footers STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new page width. -- Terry Farrell - Word MVP http://word.mvps.org/ "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have center : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve alignment! : -- : : Charles Kenyon : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & : footers. : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using : windows : 98) : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always : varies : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these : items : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the : space : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they : toggle : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for : inserting : required alignments! Can anyone : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or : maybe : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind : enough : to put me straight please. : Regards, : . : -- : Alasdair : : |
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Thanks Charles,
I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! Regards, Alasdair. "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within Word. If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in Word, act as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR drives as well.) Don't use Word to: Open a document on a floppy Print a document on a floppy Edit a document on a floppy Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and forth using Windows. I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new formatted disk each time you save and don't do any editing. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thank you both, (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait Plus exam last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank you guys) then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not let me save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 hour period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he had to switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as would be Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for original files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be allowed to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked on last night. So Thanks again to you all, Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "TF" wrote: That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and Footers STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new page width. -- Terry Farrell - Word MVP http://word.mvps.org/ "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have center : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve alignment! : -- : : Charles Kenyon : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & : footers. : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using : windows : 98) : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header & : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs to : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic file : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English format : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always : varies : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these : items : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second requested : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using the : space : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they : toggle : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for : inserting : required alignments! Can anyone : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using headers & : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, or : maybe : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind : enough : to put me straight please. : Regards, : . : -- : Alasdair : : |
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Alasdair
The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. When you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from the floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! -- Terry Farrell - Word MVP http://word.mvps.org/ "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Thanks Charles, : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : Regards, : Alasdair. : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within Word. : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in Word, act : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR drives as : well.) : Don't use Word to: : Open a document on a floppy : Print a document on a floppy : Edit a document on a floppy : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and forth : using Windows. : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new formatted : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : -- : : Charles Kenyon : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Thank you both, : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait Plus exam : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank you : guys) : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not let me : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 hour : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he had to : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as would : be : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for original : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : allowed : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked on : last : night. : So Thanks again to you all, : Kindest Regards, : Alasdair. : "TF" wrote: : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and Footers : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new page : width. : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote in : message ... : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : center : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : alignment! : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : : message ... : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & : : footers. : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using : : windows : : 98) : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header : & : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs : to : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic : file : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English : format : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always : : varies : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these : : items : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : requested : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using : the : : space : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they : : toggle : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for : : inserting : : required alignments! Can anyone : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using : headers : & : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, : or : : maybe : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind : : enough : : to put me straight please. : : Regards, : : . : : -- : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : |
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On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not
permitted. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Alasdair The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. When you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from the floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! -- Terry Farrell - Word MVP http://word.mvps.org/ "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Thanks Charles, : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : Regards, : Alasdair. : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within Word. : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in Word, act : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR drives as : well.) : Don't use Word to: : Open a document on a floppy : Print a document on a floppy : Edit a document on a floppy : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and forth : using Windows. : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new formatted : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : -- : : Charles Kenyon : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Thank you both, : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait Plus exam : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank you : guys) : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not let me : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 hour : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he had to : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as would : be : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for original : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : allowed : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked on : last : night. : So Thanks again to you all, : Kindest Regards, : Alasdair. : "TF" wrote: : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and Footers : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new page : width. : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote in : message ... : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : center : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : alignment! : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : : message ... : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with headers & : : footers. : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is using : : windows : : 98) : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the header : & : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header needs : to : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) automatic : file : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, English : format : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this always : : varies : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of these : : items : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : requested : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and using : the : : space : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and they : : toggle : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method for : : inserting : : required alignments! Can anyone : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on using : headers : & : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my problem, : or : : maybe : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please be kind : : enough : : to put me straight please. : : Regards, : : . : : -- : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : |
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Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind!
Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this to:
1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is complete). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne,
My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & observations they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, fun & home truths!) :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting tabs I still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my text within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # (Centre Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and behold the centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how that works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an obsolete (well to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that was Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I am more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this subject or letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little problem, I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you all know how it went . Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they are all very much appreciated, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this to: 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is complete). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can see
where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text overran one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters or (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in mind that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to align your text at the preset tab stops. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & observations they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, fun & home truths!) :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting tabs I still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my text within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # (Centre Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and behold the centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how that works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an obsolete (well to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that was Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I am more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this subject or letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little problem, I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you all know how it went . Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they are all very much appreciated, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this to: 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is complete). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Thanks Suzanne,
I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I still remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to the right, so it looks like, "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when I enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant resolve this issue for me either! I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I get required Information in the right places! Thanks again for your valuable help, Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can see where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text overran one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters or (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in mind that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to align your text at the preset tab stops. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & observations they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, fun & home truths!) :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting tabs I still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my text within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # (Centre Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and behold the centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how that works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an obsolete (well to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that was Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I am more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this subject or letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little problem, I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you all know how it went . Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they are all very much appreciated, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this to: 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is complete). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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I think that you are slightly misunderstanding the tab types. In the Header and Footer, by default there are two tabs, a Centre aligned tab (in the centre) and a right-aligned tab at the right margin. To use them correctly, you need to type: TAB Alasdair Crockett, 26947. Climate. TAB My name and Candidate # The first TAB you enter will move the insertion point to the centre aligned position of the HorF: the second TAB entered will move the cursor to the right margin of the HorF for entering the right-aligned text. There is no need to use any of the alignment buttons because the TABs are already 'aligned' to Centre and Right margin. If you look at the left hand end of the Ruler, you will see a box with a letter 'L'. The 'L' represents a left aligned (normal) TAB. If you click on the box, the tabs will change showing the various types of tabs available - Left, Centre, Right, Decimal, Bar, First Line Indent and Hanging Indent (assuming that you have Word 2003). The reason you may need to edit the Header and Footer Styles is because if you change the default Page Margins, the Centre and Right alignment positions change: so you need to match the difference in the Style setting. Check out Word's Help from more information on Tabs. Terry "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Thanks Suzanne, : I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see : where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I still : remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre : insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to the : right, so it looks like, : "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre : aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when I : enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my : tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant resolve : this issue for me either! : I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through : with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I get : required Information in the right places! : Thanks again for your valuable help, : Regards, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't clear
enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all. The paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to place your centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this purpose. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thanks Suzanne, I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I still remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to the right, so it looks like, "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when I enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant resolve this issue for me either! I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I get required Information in the right places! Thanks again for your valuable help, Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can see where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text overran one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters or (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in mind that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to align your text at the preset tab stops. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & observations they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, fun & home truths!) :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting tabs I still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my text within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # (Centre Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and behold the centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how that works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an obsolete (well to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that was Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I am more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this subject or letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little problem, I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you all know how it went . Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they are all very much appreciated, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this to: 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is complete). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Thanks Terry & Suzanne,
I bet you must think I am very slow on the uptake!well sometimes I am :-) Your advice is very clear cut Terry & backed up by Suzanne I cant go wrong. I think you should produce an "Idiots Style Guide"for "Monkeys" the monkey in this case being ME! (For information Terry I am using Word 2000.) Your Instructions are very clear cut and for that I thank you. Kindest Regards to you both, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't clear enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all. The paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to place your centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this purpose. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thanks Suzanne, I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I still remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to the right, so it looks like, "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when I enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant resolve this issue for me either! I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I get required Information in the right places! Thanks again for your valuable help, Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can see where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text overran one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters or (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in mind that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to align your text at the preset tab stops. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & observations they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, fun & home truths!) :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting tabs I still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my text within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # (Centre Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and behold the centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how that works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an obsolete (well to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that was Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I am more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this subject or letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little problem, I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you all know how it went . Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they are all very much appreciated, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute this to: 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is complete). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message ... Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD is not : permitted. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Alasdair : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local hard drive. : When : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy using Windows : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your work from : the : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor will : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of why not! : : -- : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : http://word.mvps.org/ : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : : Thanks Charles, : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told to save : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we use for night : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or another! : : Regards, : : Alasdair. : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy from within : Word. : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working with in : Word, : act : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to CDRW/CDR : drives : as : : well.) : : Don't use Word to: : : Open a document on a floppy : : Print a document on a floppy : : Edit a document on a floppy : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy it back and : forth : : using Windows. : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) this is a tough : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a brand new : formatted : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : -- : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote : in : : message ... : : Thank you both, : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of my Clait : Plus : exam : : last night and got everything just right in the time allowed(thank : you : : guys) : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up and would not : let me : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all through the 2 : hour : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in the end he : had : to : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all my work (as : would : : be : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled except for : original : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation prize I will be : : allowed : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the one i worked : on : : last : : night. : : So Thanks again to you all, : : Kindest Regards, : : Alasdair. : : "TF" wrote: : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page margins from : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the Headers and : Footers : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to fit the new : page : : width. : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote : in : : message ... : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer styles. They have : : center : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does not involve : : alignment! : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote in : : : message : ... : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am encountering with : headers & : : : footers. : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my night class is : using : : : windows : : : 98) : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test papers the : header : : & : : : footer information is always different, ie:sometimes the header : needs : : to : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment centre) : automatic : : file : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field date, : English : : format : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned right)etc.(this : always : : : varies : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot insert most of : these : : : items : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion of the second : : requested : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of tabbing and : using : : the : : : space : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final test comes and : they : : : toggle : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate my method : for : : : inserting : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the article on : using : : headers : : & : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to address my : problem, : : or : : : maybe : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would someone please : be : kind : : : enough : : : to put me straight please. : : : Regards, : : : . : : : -- : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Hi Folks, it's me again (Alasdair Crockett),
I just thought that I would let you all know that I sat the final part (for now)of my exam in my Clait Plus Word Unit and Passed with flying colours :-) Thanks to you guys and all the Tutorials. I want to thank you all for your patience and understanding and for always pointing me in the right direction. The next unit I am undertaking is" Publisher"which is another thing I have never used before, my choice for this is that our parish magazine has asked for help in publishing the mag and I thought it would be a good idea if I could contribute to it at some later stage when I grasp the fundamentals. I just hope the MVP's at "Publisher" are as good as you Ladies and Gentlemen :-). I will be back with you at some stage, when I do the more advanced unit on word at some point in the future and I'm sure there will be times before that when I need your valuable help. So a BIG THANK YOU to you all, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair Crockett. "TF" wrote: Even Suzanne and I will admit that even with our combined experience, Word still makes monkeys of us something too. If you go to the FAQ site in my signature block, you will find a pertinent quote from a fellow MVP, Bob Buckland. -- Terry http://word.mvps.org/ "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Just a little update for you wonderful People :-) : I tried out Terry's Suggestion and Praise be it worked like a dream. : I think I love you all ( for your patience & minds ). : P.S. ( I really do think you should all write the Idiot/Monkey guide)hehe, : you would make a fortune. : Fondest Regards : Alasdair. : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote: : : Thanks Terry & Suzanne, : I bet you must think I am very slow on the uptake!well sometimes I am :-) : Your advice is very clear cut Terry & backed up by Suzanne I cant go wrong. : I think you should produce an "Idiots Style Guide"for "Monkeys" the monkey : in this case being ME! : (For information Terry I am using Word 2000.) : Your Instructions are very clear cut and for that I thank you. : Kindest Regards to you both, : Alasdair. : : : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't clear : enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all. The : paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to place your : centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this purpose. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Thanks Suzanne, : I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see : where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I : still : remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre : insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to : the : right, so it looks like, : "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre : aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when : I : enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my : tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant : resolve : this issue for me either! : I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through : with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I : get : required Information in the right places! : Thanks again for your valuable help, : Regards, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can : see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text : overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters : or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in : mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & : observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, : fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting : tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my : text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # : (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and : behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how : that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an : obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that : was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I : am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this : subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you : all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they : are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute : this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD : is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local : hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy : using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor : will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of : why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message : ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told : to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we : use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy : from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy : it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) : this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a : brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of : my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up : and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in : the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all : my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled : except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation : prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the : one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the : Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to : fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer : styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does : not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word : (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which : is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can : learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am : encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my : night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, : ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot : insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion : of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final : test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate : my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the : article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would : someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Yep, the Publisher MVPs are good folks. Don't be put off by some of the less
civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, it's me again (Alasdair Crockett), I just thought that I would let you all know that I sat the final part (for now)of my exam in my Clait Plus Word Unit and Passed with flying colours :-) Thanks to you guys and all the Tutorials. I want to thank you all for your patience and understanding and for always pointing me in the right direction. The next unit I am undertaking is" Publisher"which is another thing I have never used before, my choice for this is that our parish magazine has asked for help in publishing the mag and I thought it would be a good idea if I could contribute to it at some later stage when I grasp the fundamentals. I just hope the MVP's at "Publisher" are as good as you Ladies and Gentlemen :-). I will be back with you at some stage, when I do the more advanced unit on word at some point in the future and I'm sure there will be times before that when I need your valuable help. So a BIG THANK YOU to you all, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair Crockett. "TF" wrote: Even Suzanne and I will admit that even with our combined experience, Word still makes monkeys of us something too. If you go to the FAQ site in my signature block, you will find a pertinent quote from a fellow MVP, Bob Buckland. -- Terry http://word.mvps.org/ "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Just a little update for you wonderful People :-) : I tried out Terry's Suggestion and Praise be it worked like a dream. : I think I love you all ( for your patience & minds ). : P.S. ( I really do think you should all write the Idiot/Monkey guide)hehe, : you would make a fortune. : Fondest Regards : Alasdair. : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote: : : Thanks Terry & Suzanne, : I bet you must think I am very slow on the uptake!well sometimes I am :-) : Your advice is very clear cut Terry & backed up by Suzanne I cant go wrong. : I think you should produce an "Idiots Style Guide"for "Monkeys" the monkey : in this case being ME! : (For information Terry I am using Word 2000.) : Your Instructions are very clear cut and for that I thank you. : Kindest Regards to you both, : Alasdair. : : : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't clear : enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all. The : paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to place your : centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this purpose. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Thanks Suzanne, : I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see : where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I : still : remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre : insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to : the : right, so it looks like, : "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre : aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when : I : enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my : tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant : resolve : this issue for me either! : I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through : with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I : get : required Information in the right places! : Thanks again for your valuable help, : Regards, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can : see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text : overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters : or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in : mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & : observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, : fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting : tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my : text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # : (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and : behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how : that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an : obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that : was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I : am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this : subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you : all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they : are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute : this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD : is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local : hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy : using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor : will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of : why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message : ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told : to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we : use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy : from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy : it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) : this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a : brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of : my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up : and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in : the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all : my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled : except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation : prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the : one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the : Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to : fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer : styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does : not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word : (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which : is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can : learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am : encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my : night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, : ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot : insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion : of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final : test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate : my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the : article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would : someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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I promise I wont be put off by - " some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs ". Thanks for your time and encouragement, it means alot to me. Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Yep, the Publisher MVPs are good folks. Don't be put off by some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, it's me again (Alasdair Crockett), I just thought that I would let you all know that I sat the final part (for now)of my exam in my Clait Plus Word Unit and Passed with flying colours :-) Thanks to you guys and all the Tutorials. I want to thank you all for your patience and understanding and for always pointing me in the right direction. The next unit I am undertaking is" Publisher"which is another thing I have never used before, my choice for this is that our parish magazine has asked for help in publishing the mag and I thought it would be a good idea if I could contribute to it at some later stage when I grasp the fundamentals. I just hope the MVP's at "Publisher" are as good as you Ladies and Gentlemen :-). I will be back with you at some stage, when I do the more advanced unit on word at some point in the future and I'm sure there will be times before that when I need your valuable help. So a BIG THANK YOU to you all, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair Crockett. "TF" wrote: Even Suzanne and I will admit that even with our combined experience, Word still makes monkeys of us something too. If you go to the FAQ site in my signature block, you will find a pertinent quote from a fellow MVP, Bob Buckland. -- Terry http://word.mvps.org/ "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Just a little update for you wonderful People :-) : I tried out Terry's Suggestion and Praise be it worked like a dream. : I think I love you all ( for your patience & minds ). : P.S. ( I really do think you should all write the Idiot/Monkey guide)hehe, : you would make a fortune. : Fondest Regards : Alasdair. : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote: : : Thanks Terry & Suzanne, : I bet you must think I am very slow on the uptake!well sometimes I am :-) : Your advice is very clear cut Terry & backed up by Suzanne I cant go wrong. : I think you should produce an "Idiots Style Guide"for "Monkeys" the monkey : in this case being ME! : (For information Terry I am using Word 2000.) : Your Instructions are very clear cut and for that I thank you. : Kindest Regards to you both, : Alasdair. : : : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't clear : enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all. The : paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to place your : centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this purpose. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Thanks Suzanne, : I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see : where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I : still : remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre : insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to : the : right, so it looks like, : "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre : aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when : I : enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my : tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant : resolve : this issue for me either! : I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through : with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I : get : required Information in the right places! : Thanks again for your valuable help, : Regards, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can : see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text : overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters : or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in : mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & : observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, : fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting : tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my : text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # : (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and : behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how : that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an : obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that : was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I : am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this : subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you : all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they : are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute : this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD : is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local : hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy : using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor : will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of : why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message : ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told : to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we : use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy : from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy : it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) : this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a : brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of : my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up : and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in : the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all : my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled : except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation : prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the : one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the : Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to : fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer : styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does : not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word : (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which : is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can : learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am : encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my : night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, : ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot : insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion : of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final : test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate : my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the : article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would : someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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I haven't visited the Publisher groups in some time, so I don't know what
alias David Allenberg is currently using, but he's the chief troll (often used to post as "MS Publisher"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thanks Suzanne, I promise I wont be put off by - " some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs ". Thanks for your time and encouragement, it means alot to me. Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Yep, the Publisher MVPs are good folks. Don't be put off by some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, it's me again (Alasdair Crockett), I just thought that I would let you all know that I sat the final part (for now)of my exam in my Clait Plus Word Unit and Passed with flying colours :-) Thanks to you guys and all the Tutorials. I want to thank you all for your patience and understanding and for always pointing me in the right direction. The next unit I am undertaking is" Publisher"which is another thing I have never used before, my choice for this is that our parish magazine has asked for help in publishing the mag and I thought it would be a good idea if I could contribute to it at some later stage when I grasp the fundamentals. I just hope the MVP's at "Publisher" are as good as you Ladies and Gentlemen :-). I will be back with you at some stage, when I do the more advanced unit on word at some point in the future and I'm sure there will be times before that when I need your valuable help. So a BIG THANK YOU to you all, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair Crockett. "TF" wrote: Even Suzanne and I will admit that even with our combined experience, Word still makes monkeys of us something too. If you go to the FAQ site in my signature block, you will find a pertinent quote from a fellow MVP, Bob Buckland. -- Terry http://word.mvps.org/ "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... : Just a little update for you wonderful People :-) : I tried out Terry's Suggestion and Praise be it worked like a dream. : I think I love you all ( for your patience & minds ). : P.S. ( I really do think you should all write the Idiot/Monkey guide)hehe, : you would make a fortune. : Fondest Regards : Alasdair. : : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote: : : Thanks Terry & Suzanne, : I bet you must think I am very slow on the uptake!well sometimes I am :-) : Your advice is very clear cut Terry & backed up by Suzanne I cant go wrong. : I think you should produce an "Idiots Style Guide"for "Monkeys" the monkey : in this case being ME! : (For information Terry I am using Word 2000.) : Your Instructions are very clear cut and for that I thank you. : Kindest Regards to you both, : Alasdair. : : : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't clear : enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all. The : paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to place your : centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this purpose. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Thanks Suzanne, : I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can see : where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but I : still : remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my centre : insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document name"to : the : right, so it looks like, : "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be Centre : aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but when : I : enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest even my : tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate cant : resolve : this issue for me either! : I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle through : with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc till I : get : required Information in the right places! : Thanks again for your valuable help, : Regards, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can : see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text : overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters : or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in : mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & : observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, : fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting : tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my : text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # : (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and : behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how : that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an : obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that : was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I : am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this : subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you : all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they : are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute : this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD : is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local : hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy : using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor : will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of : why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message : ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told : to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we : use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy : from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy : it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) : this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a : brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of : my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up : and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in : the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all : my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled : except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation : prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the : one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the : Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to : fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer : styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does : not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word : (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which : is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can : learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am : encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my : night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, : ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot : insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion : of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final : test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate : my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the : article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would : someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Thanks Suzanne,
I'm using the old version 2000 but looking at the posts most people seem to be using 2002 or 2003 but as my night class are using 2000 thats what I'm using,so we dont get any confusion etc, I just hope they can help me when i need it like you Word mpvs did when I needed it ! Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I haven't visited the Publisher groups in some time, so I don't know what alias David Allenberg is currently using, but he's the chief troll (often used to post as "MS Publisher"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thanks Suzanne, I promise I wont be put off by - " some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs ". Thanks for your time and encouragement, it means alot to me. Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Yep, the Publisher MVPs are good folks. Don't be put off by some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, it's me again (Alasdair Crockett), I just thought that I would let you all know that I sat the final part (for now)of my exam in my Clait Plus Word Unit and Passed with flying colours :-) Thanks to you guys and all the Tutorials. I want to thank you all for your patience and understanding and for always pointing me in the right direction. The next unit I am undertaking is" Publisher"which is another thing I have never used before, my choice for this is that our parish magazine has asked for help in publishing the mag and I thought it would be a good idea if I could contribute to it at some later stage when I grasp the fundamentals. I just hope the MVP's at "Publisher" are as good as you Ladies and Gentlemen :-). I will be back with you at some stage, when I do the more advanced unit on word at some point in the future and I'm sure there will be times before that when I need your valuable help. So a BIG THANK YOU to you all, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair Crockett. " : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can : see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text : overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters : or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in : mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & : observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, : fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting : tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my : text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # : (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and : behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how : that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an : obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that : was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I : am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this : subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you : all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they : are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute : this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD : is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local : hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy : using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor : will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of : why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message : ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told : to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we : use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy : from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy : it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) : this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a : brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of : my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up : and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in : the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all : my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled : except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation : prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the : one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the : Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to : fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer : styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does : not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word : (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which : is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can : learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am : encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my : night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, : ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot : insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion : of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final : test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate : my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the : article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would : someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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Many of the Publisher MVPs run all versions. Brian Kvalheim, for example, is
or was a commercial printer and so has to be able to accept files from multiple versions. I jumped from 97 to 2002 and thought that was a huge improvement (didn't ever use 2000), but 2003 is even better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thanks Suzanne, I'm using the old version 2000 but looking at the posts most people seem to be using 2002 or 2003 but as my night class are using 2000 thats what I'm using,so we dont get any confusion etc, I just hope they can help me when i need it like you Word mpvs did when I needed it ! Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I haven't visited the Publisher groups in some time, so I don't know what alias David Allenberg is currently using, but he's the chief troll (often used to post as "MS Publisher"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Thanks Suzanne, I promise I wont be put off by - " some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs ". Thanks for your time and encouragement, it means alot to me. Kindest Regards, Alasdair. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Yep, the Publisher MVPs are good folks. Don't be put off by some of the less civilized denizens of the Publisher NGs, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, it's me again (Alasdair Crockett), I just thought that I would let you all know that I sat the final part (for now)of my exam in my Clait Plus Word Unit and Passed with flying colours :-) Thanks to you guys and all the Tutorials. I want to thank you all for your patience and understanding and for always pointing me in the right direction. The next unit I am undertaking is" Publisher"which is another thing I have never used before, my choice for this is that our parish magazine has asked for help in publishing the mag and I thought it would be a good idea if I could contribute to it at some later stage when I grasp the fundamentals. I just hope the MVP's at "Publisher" are as good as you Ladies and Gentlemen :-). I will be back with you at some stage, when I do the more advanced unit on word at some point in the future and I'm sure there will be times before that when I need your valuable help. So a BIG THANK YOU to you all, Kindest Regards to you all, Alasdair Crockett. " : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you can : see : where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text : overran : one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab characters : or : (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep in : mind : that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it remains : left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing Tab) to : align your text at the preset tab stops. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "Alasdair Crockett" wrote in : message ... : Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne, : My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, & : observations : they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information, observation, : fun & : home truths!) : :-) I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post after : following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and setting : tabs : I : still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of my : text : within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate # : (Centre : Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low and : behold : the : centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules in the : header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made no : difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see how : that : works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an : obsolete : (well : to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and that : was : Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different centre) I : am : more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this : subject or : letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious little : problem, : I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will let you : all : know how it went . : Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations they : are : all : very much appreciated, : Kindest Regards to you all, : Alasdair. : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: : : It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I attribute : this : to: : : 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short papers). : : 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is : complete). : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : ... : Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind! : : Terry : : "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : ... : : On many school and library computers, however, saving to the HD : is : not : : permitted. : : : : -- : : Suzanne S. Barnhill : : Microsoft MVP (Word) : : Words into Type : : Fairhope, Alabama USA : : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the : newsgroup : so : : all may benefit. : : : : "TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message : : ... : : Alasdair : : : : The correct procedure should be to always save to the local : hard : drive. : : When : : you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a floppy : using : Windows : : Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson, copy your : work : from : : the : : floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your tutor : will : : understand why. Your experience was a pretty good example of : why : not! : : : : -- : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : wrote : in : : message : ... : : : Thanks Charles, : : : I will have to give this one to my tutor:-) as we are told : to : save : : : everything to floppy as they are school computers that we : use : for : night : : : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some way or : another! : : : Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" wrote: : : : : : : Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a floppy : from : within : : Word. : : : : : : If you want to be able to use your documents, when working : with in : : Word, : : act : : : as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This applies to : CDRW/CDR : : drives : : as : : : well.) : : : Don't use Word to: : : : Open a document on a floppy : : : Print a document on a floppy : : : Edit a document on a floppy : : : Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy) : : : : : : Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives! : : : : : : Instead, work on the document using your hard drive. Copy : it : back : and : : forth : : : using Windows. : : : : : : I know that for some with shared computers (libraries) : this is : a : tough : : : prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use a : brand : new : : formatted : : : disk each time you save and don't do any editing. : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented : version : of : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is : awesome! : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : wrote : : in : : : message : ... : : : Thank you both, : : : (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of use. : : : As A little footnote to this : I sat the first part of : my : Clait : : Plus : : exam : : : last night and got everything just right in the time : allowed(thank : : you : : : guys) : : : then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked up : and : would : not : : let me : : : save my work or print it !(I had been making saves all : through : the : 2 : : hour : : : period) The tutor could not even fix the problem and in : the : end : he : : had : : to : : : switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost all : my : work : (as : : would : : : be : : : Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was scrambled : except : for : : original : : : files but not the new test document! As a cosolation : prize I : will : be : : : allowed : : : to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night : : : school. I just hope the pc's there are better than the : one i : worked : : on : : : last : : : night. : : : So Thanks again to you all, : : : Kindest Regards, : : : Alasdair. : : : "TF" wrote: : : : : : : That's quite correct but if you have changed the page : margins : from : : : Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into the : Headers : and : : Footers : : : STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and Right to : fit : the : new : : page : : : width. : : : : : : -- : : : Terry Farrell - Word MVP : : : http://word.mvps.org/ : : : : : : : : : "Charles Kenyon" : : wrote : : in : : : message ... : : : : Look at the formatting of the header and footer : styles. : They : have : : : center : : : : tabs and right tabs set in them by default. This does : not : involve : : : alignment! : : : : -- : : : : : : : : Charles Kenyon : : : : : : : : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: : http://addbalance.com/word : : : : : : : : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word : (supplemented : version : : of : : : : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) : http://addbalance.com/usersguide : : : : : : : : See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which : is : awesome! : : : : : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- : : : : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post : replies : : : : and questions to the newsgroup so that others can : learn : : : : from my ignorance and your wisdom. : : : : : : : : "Alasdair Crockett" : : : wrote in : : : : message : : ... : : : : Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am : encountering : with : : headers & : : : : footers. : : : : (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000, my : night : class : is : : using : : : : windows : : : : 98) : : : : When I get the" House Style Sheet" for various test : papers : the : : header : : : & : : : : footer information is always different, : ie:sometimes : the : header : : needs : : : to : : : : contain canditate name and centre number(alignment : centre) : : automatic : : : file : : : : name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic field : date, : : English : : : format : : : : (alignment left) automatic page number(aligned : right)etc.(this : : always : : : : varies : : : : with each test paper)my problem is that I cannot : insert : most : of : : these : : : : items : : : : without the whole thing moving with the insertion : of : the : second : : : requested : : : : alignment.I can acheive the above by a mixture of : tabbing : and : : using : : : the : : : : space : : : : bar but I dont think the Examiners when my final : test : comes : and : : they : : : : toggle : : : : on the pilcrow to see my formatting will appreciate : my : method : : for : : : : inserting : : : : required alignments! Can anyone : : : : tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read the : article : on : : using : : : headers : : : & : : : : footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem to : address my : : problem, : : : or : : : : maybe : : : : the way I am doing the insertions is ok. Would : someone : please : : be : : kind : : : : enough : : : : to put me straight please. : : : : Regards, : : : : . : : : : -- : : : : Alasdair : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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