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Get columns to work independantly
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Word 2003. I am trying to figure out the best way to create physician orders in word. I am trying out using a table. Basically the orders have 2 columns. My problem is on the left side sometimes I need to insert a section with many rows of text, this causes the right side to expand the cell as well...The right side is a numbered or list with check boxes, and I use bullets to make the boxes. Is there a way to have the left and right to space independantly? I have played around and figured that merging cells on the left works but it's not too kind when you need to change things later. Thanks, Linda |
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You could use a 2-column setup (Format Columns €“ click the "Two" icon).
In the first column, you can insert a 1-column table (the left column of your current table). Insert a column break after the table (Insert Break Column break). You can then type whatever needed in the second column independently of the table in the first column. You can insert a table if you want and it will still be independent of the leftmost table. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Linda RQ" wrote: Hi, Word 2003. I am trying to figure out the best way to create physician orders in word. I am trying out using a table. Basically the orders have 2 columns. My problem is on the left side sometimes I need to insert a section with many rows of text, this causes the right side to expand the cell as well...The right side is a numbered or list with check boxes, and I use bullets to make the boxes. Is there a way to have the left and right to space independantly? I have played around and figured that merging cells on the left works but it's not too kind when you need to change things later. Thanks, Linda |
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Ok...If I type too much in the first column, it carries over to the second
column. The other issue, is I need the borders to butt up to one another without the line looking heavier in the middle. The left side on each page has to have the title of the orderset at the top. On the bottom of each left side there needs to a few lines of text. On the first page I need a section for title, a large blank space for a patient sticker to be placed on the orderset, another row with 4 cells, room number, and 3 pharmacy cells to fill in. In between this top section on the first column, I need to type in some instructions. At the bottom, I need a couple of rows for additional text. The section on the right has to be one continuous row and sometimes there are 4 pages to the order but at the top of each page, I need a top bottom and side borders. It seems like I get going ok, then I add something and everything disappears or skips a page. I pulled up the border toolbar and typed in the text, then drew a line but that shifted stuff down too... Not sure if you can help but typing it all out helps me to get it straight in my head. It may be that I just need to keep playing around. Sometimes I need the cell to be fixed and sometimes it's okay for overflow. Linda "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... You could use a 2-column setup (Format Columns - click the "Two" icon). In the first column, you can insert a 1-column table (the left column of your current table). Insert a column break after the table (Insert Break Column break). You can then type whatever needed in the second column independently of the table in the first column. You can insert a table if you want and it will still be independent of the leftmost table. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Linda RQ" wrote: Hi, Word 2003. I am trying to figure out the best way to create physician orders in word. I am trying out using a table. Basically the orders have 2 columns. My problem is on the left side sometimes I need to insert a section with many rows of text, this causes the right side to expand the cell as well...The right side is a numbered or list with check boxes, and I use bullets to make the boxes. Is there a way to have the left and right to space independantly? I have played around and figured that merging cells on the left works but it's not too kind when you need to change things later. Thanks, Linda |
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Even though you have described a lot of details now, it is a bit difficult to
imagine exactly what your document looks like. When suggesting 2 columns, I thought that it was a 1-page document (sorry, I could have asked). Since it is not, the 2-column approach is not a good idea. Have you tried working with nested tables (i.e. one table inside another)? Maybe this would work better for you: Create a 2-column "main" table with 1 row only (format borders etc. as desired). In the leftmost table column, create another table (content from the left column of your original table). If the content in the first column of the "main" table exceeds the height available on the first page, the "main" table will continue on the next page and the content in the first column will remain in that column. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Linda RQ" wrote: Ok...If I type too much in the first column, it carries over to the second column. The other issue, is I need the borders to butt up to one another without the line looking heavier in the middle. The left side on each page has to have the title of the orderset at the top. On the bottom of each left side there needs to a few lines of text. On the first page I need a section for title, a large blank space for a patient sticker to be placed on the orderset, another row with 4 cells, room number, and 3 pharmacy cells to fill in. In between this top section on the first column, I need to type in some instructions. At the bottom, I need a couple of rows for additional text. The section on the right has to be one continuous row and sometimes there are 4 pages to the order but at the top of each page, I need a top bottom and side borders. It seems like I get going ok, then I add something and everything disappears or skips a page. I pulled up the border toolbar and typed in the text, then drew a line but that shifted stuff down too... Not sure if you can help but typing it all out helps me to get it straight in my head. It may be that I just need to keep playing around. Sometimes I need the cell to be fixed and sometimes it's okay for overflow. Linda "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... You could use a 2-column setup (Format Columns - click the "Two" icon). In the first column, you can insert a 1-column table (the left column of your current table). Insert a column break after the table (Insert Break Column break). You can then type whatever needed in the second column independently of the table in the first column. You can insert a table if you want and it will still be independent of the leftmost table. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Linda RQ" wrote: Hi, Word 2003. I am trying to figure out the best way to create physician orders in word. I am trying out using a table. Basically the orders have 2 columns. My problem is on the left side sometimes I need to insert a section with many rows of text, this causes the right side to expand the cell as well...The right side is a numbered or list with check boxes, and I use bullets to make the boxes. Is there a way to have the left and right to space independantly? I have played around and figured that merging cells on the left works but it's not too kind when you need to change things later. Thanks, Linda |
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The column approach worked well for my 1 page order. I probably need
several designs for different scenarios. I have tried the nested table approach. That has a bit of a learning curve too since it seems to act like an object and things tend to move into strange places when you discover you really needed 5 rows instead of 4 or half the table is hidden behind half of the column I inserted it into. What the document looks like is basically a 1 row 2 column table with numbered orders on the right that can fill up just 1 whole page or several pages. There are special instructions on the left that can be bulleted lists or check boxes which I make with a square bullet but there also needs to be some fixed rows with certain text. Our reprographics department used to do this in adobe but there have been cutbacks there so since I "know all about computers" I get to do it now but I need to do this in word so others can hopefully do their own once I get it set up.g I see all kinds of things in the table properties dialogue box, Fixed height may be a good thing but I don't see autoflow...That's probably what I need for the right side since the orders can be up to 5 or 6 pages long in some cases. The left side, I need to have the same top and bottom rows on each page and the ability to insert text on the first page. Linda "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... Even though you have described a lot of details now, it is a bit difficult to imagine exactly what your document looks like. When suggesting 2 columns, I thought that it was a 1-page document (sorry, I could have asked). Since it is not, the 2-column approach is not a good idea. Have you tried working with nested tables (i.e. one table inside another)? Maybe this would work better for you: Create a 2-column "main" table with 1 row only (format borders etc. as desired). In the leftmost table column, create another table (content from the left column of your original table). If the content in the first column of the "main" table exceeds the height available on the first page, the "main" table will continue on the next page and the content in the first column will remain in that column. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Linda RQ" wrote: Ok...If I type too much in the first column, it carries over to the second column. The other issue, is I need the borders to butt up to one another without the line looking heavier in the middle. The left side on each page has to have the title of the orderset at the top. On the bottom of each left side there needs to a few lines of text. On the first page I need a section for title, a large blank space for a patient sticker to be placed on the orderset, another row with 4 cells, room number, and 3 pharmacy cells to fill in. In between this top section on the first column, I need to type in some instructions. At the bottom, I need a couple of rows for additional text. The section on the right has to be one continuous row and sometimes there are 4 pages to the order but at the top of each page, I need a top bottom and side borders. It seems like I get going ok, then I add something and everything disappears or skips a page. I pulled up the border toolbar and typed in the text, then drew a line but that shifted stuff down too... Not sure if you can help but typing it all out helps me to get it straight in my head. It may be that I just need to keep playing around. Sometimes I need the cell to be fixed and sometimes it's okay for overflow. Linda "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... You could use a 2-column setup (Format Columns - click the "Two" icon). In the first column, you can insert a 1-column table (the left column of your current table). Insert a column break after the table (Insert Break Column break). You can then type whatever needed in the second column independently of the table in the first column. You can insert a table if you want and it will still be independent of the leftmost table. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Linda RQ" wrote: Hi, Word 2003. I am trying to figure out the best way to create physician orders in word. I am trying out using a table. Basically the orders have 2 columns. My problem is on the left side sometimes I need to insert a section with many rows of text, this causes the right side to expand the cell as well...The right side is a numbered or list with check boxes, and I use bullets to make the boxes. Is there a way to have the left and right to space independantly? I have played around and figured that merging cells on the left works but it's not too kind when you need to change things later. Thanks, Linda |
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