[Tom B]

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
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***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Tom B]

Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Graham Mayor]

Well they would say that - they have stockholders to consider
It will be interesting to see what the *actual* take-up figures are like.
For many businesses 2007 is an answer to a problem they haven't got (until
MS pulls the plug on 2003).

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate
America, which has considerable investment in training custom
solutions for a given version, not to mention the software itself.
But MS claims that reception of the new version is good.


"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate
corporate acceptance will encourage development of an application
that has an acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will cost far to much to implement because employee's will
need to be retrained.

[Folstaff]

I cannot imagine a user of nearly 15 years, like myself, converting to the
Ribbon UI. This is an unimaginable design blunder.

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is painful at
best.

I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access
data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is painful at
best.
The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in 2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while (after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power users, but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view on what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training are the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see how you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took me a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists anything you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot of the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading though.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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all may benefit.

"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Bev]

Let me ask this -- Was this ribbon really designed with professional
documentation specialists, writers, editors, proofreaders in mind? It looks
like a game interface!

We buy the product for OUR use not for some designer's whim.

We hear: "Try it! You'll like it!" We've tried it; we do NOT like it.

We hate it. We don't want it. We want a TOOL that will keep us productive.
If this is the direction MS is taking with its "tools," then Hello,
WordPerfect!

I hope they will devise a "classic menus" feature for the service pack. It
would be a mistake not to. I can tell you one international company that
will not move toward the product.





"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
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***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Dave in Chicago]

I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07, but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

It appears that whatever CD was in the box was not Office 2007. Since you
have a traditional menu bar, go to Help | About Microsoft Word. What is the
version number given?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" Dave in wrote in
message ...
I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07, but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Dave in Chicago[_2_]]

Thanks for your reply; I also am confounded. Following is what is on my
"About" windos: MSO Outlook 2007 (12.0.6316.5000) SP 1 MSO (12.0.6320.5000)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It appears that whatever CD was in the box was not Office 2007. Since you
have a traditional menu bar, go to Help | About Microsoft Word. What is the
version number given?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" Dave in wrote in
message ...
I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07, but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Well, then, that's Outlook, not Word.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply; I also am confounded. Following is what is on my
"About" windos: MSO Outlook 2007 (12.0.6316.5000) SP 1 MSO
(12.0.6320.5000)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It appears that whatever CD was in the box was not Office 2007. Since you
have a traditional menu bar, go to Help | About Microsoft Word. What is
the
version number given?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" Dave in wrote in
message ...
I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have
only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07,
but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[bmur]

I have to agree with the other writers. We have installed it on test here and
the interface is horrible. Its now on test 4 month's and its no easier. Why
do microsoft change what was the most successful interface in software. There
has to be a service pack resoving this or we for one will not be
implementing. I will not suffer the annoyance of the users here.
--
bmw520


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Mi Tasol]

On Feb 10, 3:04*am, bmur wrote:
I have to agree with the other writers. We have installed it on test here and
the interface is horrible. Its now on test 4 month's and its no easier. Why
do microsoft change what was the most successful interface in software. There
has to be a service pack resoving this or we for one will not be
implementing. I will not suffer the annoyance of the users here.
--
bmw520

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
There is nooldmenubar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
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***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

Yep - it has nearly all been said. My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.
And the default output is docx, yuck.

In every version of Word they dumb it down and foul up some good
features (eg mail merge and the exact width of table columns were
loused up in W2003). The only good thing I found in 2007 is I can
customise my paste special to default to unformatted text.

Fortunately to create or fix my tables (except where they have
highlighted text), or do global changes in headers/footers, and a lot
of other issues, I can open the file in OpenOffice without any
problems.

At least the OO design team seem to listen to the users, they produce
a version that fits on my USB drive so wherever I go I have my
customizations all set up and they print PDFs automatically in the
same page size as the original document - something Adobe don't, and
works with real XML. Now if OO would just fit a Shift+F3 toggle and
fix a couple of other minor issues, I would be happy ;-)

Mi Tasol

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Feb 10, 6:35*pm, Mi Tasol wrote:

Yep - it has nearly all been said. *My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

I.e., the QAT.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.

Not if you minimize the Ribbon (double-click on any of its tabs).

And the default output is docx, yuck.

Maybe half the size of the same file in .doc format.

[snip praise of OO. Maybe it has the features _you_ need, but it's
perfectly lousy for what I need to do.]

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

And it is still quite possible to set table columns to an exact width.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Feb 10, 6:35 pm, Mi Tasol wrote:

Yep - it has nearly all been said. My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

I.e., the QAT.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.

Not if you minimize the Ribbon (double-click on any of its tabs).

And the default output is docx, yuck.

Maybe half the size of the same file in .doc format.

[snip praise of OO. Maybe it has the features _you_ need, but it's
perfectly lousy for what I need to do.]

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

And it is still quite possible to set table columns to an exact width.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Feb 10, 6:35 pm, Mi Tasol wrote:

Yep - it has nearly all been said. My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

I.e., the QAT.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.

Not if you minimize the Ribbon (double-click on any of its tabs).

And the default output is docx, yuck.

Maybe half the size of the same file in .doc format.

[snip praise of OO. Maybe it has the features _you_ need, but it's
perfectly lousy for what I need to do.]

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Feb 10, 6:35*pm, Mi Tasol wrote:

Yep - it has nearly all been said. *My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

I.e., the QAT.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.

Not if you minimize the Ribbon (double-click on any of its tabs).

And the default output is docx, yuck.

Maybe half the size of the same file in .doc format.

[snip praise of OO. Maybe it has the features _you_ need, but it's
perfectly lousy for what I need to do.]

[Mi Tasol]

On Feb 10, 3:04*am, bmur wrote:
I have to agree with the other writers. We have installed it on test here and
the interface is horrible. Its now on test 4 month's and its no easier. Why
do microsoft change what was the most successful interface in software. There
has to be a service pack resoving this or we for one will not be
implementing. I will not suffer the annoyance of the users here.
--
bmw520

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
There is nooldmenubar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
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***
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

Yep - it has nearly all been said. My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.
And the default output is docx, yuck.

In every version of Word they dumb it down and foul up some good
features (eg mail merge and the exact width of table columns were
loused up in W2003). The only good thing I found in 2007 is I can
customise my paste special to default to unformatted text.

Fortunately to create or fix my tables (except where they have
highlighted text), or do global changes in headers/footers, and a lot
of other issues, I can open the file in OpenOffice without any
problems.

At least the OO design team seem to listen to the users, they produce
a version that fits on my USB drive so wherever I go I have my
customizations all set up and they print PDFs automatically in the
same page size as the original document - something Adobe don't, and
works with real XML. Now if OO would just fit a Shift+F3 toggle and
fix a couple of other minor issues, I would be happy ;-)

Mi Tasol

[bmur]

I have to agree with the other writers. We have installed it on test here and
the interface is horrible. Its now on test 4 month's and its no easier. Why
do microsoft change what was the most successful interface in software. There
has to be a service pack resoving this or we for one will not be
implementing. I will not suffer the annoyance of the users here.
--
bmw520


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Kevin]

In fact, Office 2007 Menu and Toolbars could be show again. Just download and
install Classic Menu for Office 2007 from
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice, you will see the classic menu
and toolbars again.

[Folstaff]

Kevin,

Thanks. I know that this is the type of addin that could really help
adoption. The screenshots looked good. The Ribbon is still hogging a good bit
of the screen, but it looks like a must have for a good bit of the install
base.

Thanks again.


"Kevin" wrote:

In fact, Office 2007 Menu and Toolbars could be show again. Just download and
install Classic Menu for Office 2007 from
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice, you will see the classic menu
and toolbars again.

[JP]

Why not give the user the capability to use the old menus or the ribbon? Like
you do in the operating systems (classic v.s. XP). Pretty simple, huh?
--
JP


"Folstaff" wrote:

Kevin,

Thanks. I know that this is the type of addin that could really help
adoption. The screenshots looked good. The Ribbon is still hogging a good bit
of the screen, but it looks like a must have for a good bit of the install
base.

Thanks again.


"Kevin" wrote:

In fact, Office 2007 Menu and Toolbars could be show again. Just download and
install Classic Menu for Office 2007 from
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice, you will see the classic menu
and toolbars again.

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi J.P.,

Actually, no it isn't a simple thing to combine the two of them to the point where it was reliable on a large scale deployable basis
in the time frame allowed for delivering the product. Things can get somewhat more complex within each of the Office apps as they
are not coded to a common base, but to different feature sets and methods.

===================
"JP" wrote in message ...
Why not give the user the capability to use the old menus or the ribbon? Like
you do in the operating systems (classic v.s. XP). Pretty simple, huh?
--
JP
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

[Summer]

We use and beta test RibbonCustomizer by Patrick Schmidt MVP. It offers a
free STARTER version and also offers FREE ClassicUI tabs for Word Excel and
PowerPoint as first and last tab on Ribbon menu.

It is the best interface of all three ClassicUI tabs I have tested. I use
Professional version but if you are after only ClassicUI tabs for Ribbon
they are available from Trial download and are yours permanently to use.

Read Patrick's site for further details on how to download and ClassicUI
tabs Word Excel PowerPoint.

http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...er/starter.php

Janine
www.docsliveonline.com



"JP" wrote in message
...
Why not give the user the capability to use the old menus or the ribbon?
Like
you do in the operating systems (classic v.s. XP). Pretty simple, huh?
--
JP


"Folstaff" wrote:

Kevin,

Thanks. I know that this is the type of addin that could really help
adoption. The screenshots looked good. The Ribbon is still hogging a good
bit
of the screen, but it looks like a must have for a good bit of the
install
base.

Thanks again.


"Kevin" wrote:

In fact, Office 2007 Menu and Toolbars could be show again. Just
download and
install Classic Menu for Office 2007 from
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice, you will see the classic
menu
and toolbars again.

[Beth Melton]

If they could provide the same functionality in the classic menus/toolbars
as they do with the Ribbon then there wouldn't have been a need to create
the Ribbon in the first place. :-)

The old UI was designed for the 80s, back when there was around only 1/4 of
the commands in the application, plus the Ribbon offers more than a list of
menus and such to choose from. While there are add-ins available that
provide the old UI, if you use an add-in instead of the Ribbon you lose out
on the new functionality - they only provide the commands that were in the
previous versions - and other than the advantages of the new file type
you're not gaining much by upgrading in the first place.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"JP" wrote in message
...
Why not give the user the capability to use the old menus or the ribbon?
Like
you do in the operating systems (classic v.s. XP). Pretty simple, huh?

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Just to add to the comments made already here.
Take a look at http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
It gives you an index to the blog the Office UI Team (that created the
Ribbon) has about that new UI. There are a bunch of articles there
titled "Why the new UI" that I would suggest as reading.
As Summer already pointed out, I offer a set of Classic UI tabs that you
can use with the free edition of my add-in. It's free, because I believe
no one can do a good job with a classic UI in 2007 for all the design
reasons pointed out in the blog posts referenced above and for some
practical reasons listed in my description of the featu
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbon...etourpart3.php
It's also free, because my add-in is primarily for customizing the
Office 2007 ribbon, not for providing a classic UI in 2007.
There are two other vendors that offer a classic UI feature for Office
2007. Classic Menus
(http://www.addintools.com/english/me...ce/default.htm) which is
relatively similar to what I offer for free and ToolbarToggle
(http://toolbartoggle.com), which takes a bit of a different approach
(ToolbarToggle Lite is similar to what I offer).

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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"JP" wrote in message
:

Why not give the user the capability to use the old menus or the ribbon? Like
you do in the operating systems (classic v.s. XP). Pretty simple, huh?
--
JP


"Folstaff" wrote:

Kevin,

Thanks. I know that this is the type of addin that could really help
adoption. The screenshots looked good. The Ribbon is still hogging a good bit
of the screen, but it looks like a must have for a good bit of the install
base.

Thanks again.


"Kevin" wrote:

In fact, Office 2007 Menu and Toolbars could be show again. Just download and
install Classic Menu for Office 2007 from
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice, you will see the classic menu
and toolbars again.

[leftend86]

Just for the record... I hate the Ribbon Bar as well. It is large and
clumsy. Although not a 100% non-mouse user, I use the mouse to get to the
tools on my toolbar when needed. I was forced to switch about 2 months ago
and still hate the Ribbon Bar, miss my tool bars and have whacked together a
poor excuse for a toolbar using the quick access feature for most
applications. A poor substitute at best.

What were they thinkin'? "Oh sure, our users won't mind clicking 2-3 extra
times to search out a function rather than having right there on a tool bar!
Nah! Not important." Somebody is out of touch!

[J Walker]

The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. Ive used Word for just about 20 years now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[JoAnn Paules]

Yeah, how dare they not do your homework for you! Bad company!

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"J Walker" wrote in message
...
The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer
base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some
third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. Ive used Word for just about 20 years now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more
research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[J Walker]

Thanks for your understanding JoAnn.

You are of course correct€¦

Why should any of us expect that all our years of learning, using and
upgrading the MS products would warrant any reasonable expectation that they
would not go off and re-invent all the menus and commands that we have spent
the last 20 years learning?

I have the feeling that this new UI will go the way of New Coke. Anybody
remember New Coke?

Thanks again JoAnn.


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Yeah, how dare they not do your homework for you! Bad company!

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"J Walker" wrote in message
...
The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer
base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some
third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. Ive used Word for just about 20 years now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more
research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Summer]

It's free elsewhere.


"J Walker" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your understanding JoAnn.

You are of course correct.

Why should any of us expect that all our years of learning, using and
upgrading the MS products would warrant any reasonable expectation that
they
would not go off and re-invent all the menus and commands that we have
spent
the last 20 years learning?

I have the feeling that this new UI will go the way of New Coke. Anybody
remember New Coke?

Thanks again JoAnn.


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Yeah, how dare they not do your homework for you! Bad company!

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"J Walker" wrote in message
...
The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer
base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some
third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. I've used Word for just about 20 years
now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more
research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[JoAnn Paules]

The new interface was widely touted. Office is not inexpensive. If you
didn't read anything at all about the new version, it's your own fault. I am
so tired of people who do not accept responsibility for their own actions,
even down to buying software. It's always someone's else's fault if we
aren't satisfied.

As for the ribbon - get used to it because I really doubt that it's going
away.

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"J Walker" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your understanding JoAnn.

You are of course correct€¦

Why should any of us expect that all our years of learning, using and
upgrading the MS products would warrant any reasonable expectation that
they
would not go off and re-invent all the menus and commands that we have
spent
the last 20 years learning?

I have the feeling that this new UI will go the way of New Coke. Anybody
remember New Coke?

Thanks again JoAnn.


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Yeah, how dare they not do your homework for you! Bad company!

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"J Walker" wrote in message
...
The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer
base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some
third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. Ive used Word for just about 20 years
now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more
research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[joe_btfsplk[_2_]]

J, there are a vast number of experienced Office customers who completely
agree with you. Perhaps the more we proclaim that "the Emperor wears no
clothes", the sooner Microsoft will wake up and smell the coffee and fix the
interface for Office 2007. The ribbon does have a couple of good features
but overall I find it cumbersome and irritating: when I've tried performing
the same tasks in Excel 2007 that I have in prior versions, it actually takes
me more time and mindless keystrokes. Even with the third party menus, the
new dialogue boxes still exist and the full functionality isn't there. As a
result, I've "upgraded" back to Excel 2000 and PowerPoint 2000 and consigned
the Office 2007 versions to the rubbish heap. I only keep them around in
case someone sends me a 2007 file that I can't open.

As for Patrick Schmid's free menus, I purchased the third party ones before
I was aware of them, sometime around mid-April 2007. I also see that he was
chastised for "caving" in to people's requests for menus. Warning bells
should be going off all over Microsoft at this point, but so far it all
appears to be falling on deaf ears.

Incidentally, a lot of large corporations I work with are postponing their
"upgrade" to Office 2007 until this issue is resolved. Maybe Microsoft will
start listening to customers now.

joe_btfsplk

"J Walker" wrote:

Thanks for your understanding JoAnn.

You are of course correct€¦

Why should any of us expect that all our years of learning, using and
upgrading the MS products would warrant any reasonable expectation that they
would not go off and re-invent all the menus and commands that we have spent
the last 20 years learning?

I have the feeling that this new UI will go the way of New Coke. Anybody
remember New Coke?

Thanks again JoAnn.


"JoAnn Paules" wrote:

Yeah, how dare they not do your homework for you! Bad company!

--

JoAnn Paules
Microsoft MVP - Publisher

How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"J Walker" wrote in message
...
The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer
base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some
third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. Ive used Word for just about 20 years now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more
research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

[Graham Mayor]

Had you come here to check first, you would have found all your observations
discussed many times over, but you are still not doing your homework? If you
want to restore the menus using the add-in, that portion of the add-in is
free.

No-one is forcing you to purchase anything - and Patrick's excellent ribbon
customizer has nothing to do with Microsoft.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



J Walker wrote:
The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its
customer base. If they had any concern at all they would have
included the classic UI, rather than forcing us to purchase it for an
additional $29 from some third party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. I've used Word for just about 20 years
now and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done
more research before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will cost far to much to implement because employee's will need
to be retrained.

[Ozbecool]

I agree with you. May be you should at least start warning other people about
M...t products - as I already have.
---


"J Walker" wrote:

The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. Ive used Word for just about 20 years now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

[Legalbear]

This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm (since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Legalbear,

FWIW, the MS hosted discussion groups are generally peer support rather than MS support.

If you have a template with your custom toolbar(s) (not modifications to Word's built in toolbars) and you load that template as a
global template under Word 2007 either by placing it in the startup folder for Word or using the template dialog (Alt, T, I) your
toolbar choices, although looking a bit different as far as layout) will appear in an 'Add-Ins' tab on the ribbon. You can modify
your template through an older version of Word to change the choices, but you won't be able to change the choices in the 'Add-Ins'
tab as shown.

One of the 3rd party add-ins, http://toolbartoggle.com does allow a bit more flexibility in using and modifying floating menus.

Customization of the ribbon is also possible with a bit of a learning curve in XML.

=============
"Legalbear" wrote in message ...
This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm (since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Note, however, that Legalbear was addressing not Microsoft but those who
have created third-party add-ins for Word/Office 2007. Not that they post
here, either.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Legalbear,

FWIW, the MS hosted discussion groups are generally peer support rather
than MS support.

If you have a template with your custom toolbar(s) (not modifications to
Word's built in toolbars) and you load that template as a
global template under Word 2007 either by placing it in the startup folder
for Word or using the template dialog (Alt, T, I) your
toolbar choices, although looking a bit different as far as layout) will
appear in an 'Add-Ins' tab on the ribbon. You can modify
your template through an older version of Word to change the choices, but
you won't be able to change the choices in the 'Add-Ins'
tab as shown.

One of the 3rd party add-ins, http://toolbartoggle.com does allow a bit
more flexibility in using and modifying floating menus.

Customization of the ribbon is also possible with a bit of a learning
curve in XML.

=============
"Legalbear" wrote in message
...
This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus
for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents
used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which
opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of
which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm
(since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to
be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to
add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

[MacNOLA]

LegalBear:

Put your custom menu on a custom Toolbar in Word 2000. Attach the toolbar to
a document, any doument, and save it. Open the document in Word 2007 and your
custom toolbar that includes your custom menu will appear on the Add-Ins tab
of the ribbon. Right-click on the custom toolbar and choose to add it to the
Quick Access Toolbar. Now you will have easy access to it 100% of the time in
all documents. If you have several custom toolbars, you can add the entire
Custom Toolbars group to the QAT for nested access.

The ribbon will improve your productivity so much that it pays for itself in
the first month. I will be playing golf this afternoon while the rest of you
are still fooling around creating documents with the old toolbar
interface.The ribbon is a far better approach, much better organized, and
easier to use.

HTH,

=Mac=


"Legalbear" wrote:

This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm (since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.