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You need to change the paste special
I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the
usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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You need to change the paste special
Since you didn't say, I'll guess you're using either Word 2003 or Word 2007.
Something like the improvement you suggest is already available in Word 2007: Go to Office button Word Options Advanced, scroll down to the "Cut, copy, and paste" section, and set the four pasting options as you want. In each dropdown, one of the choices is "Keep text only", which causes Word to paste unformatted text. The other paste types are still available through Paste Special when you need them. In the same option group, regardless of how you set the default paste type, you can check the option "Show Paste Options buttons" (this is also available in Word 2003 at Tools Options Edit). When this is checked, whenever you paste you'll see a small square with the clipboard icon floating near the pasted text. Clicking the icon displays a menu to choose the paste type, which will change the formatting of the text you just pasted. With this, you're down to these actions: copy to the clipboard, switch to Word, paste (Ctrl+V), click the Paste Option button, and either click or press the T key for the underlined letter to select Keep Text Only. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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You need to change the paste special
No one here is "within Microsoft."
You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04*am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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You need to change the paste special
Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the
essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment!  My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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You need to change the paste special
Actually Outlook (AIUI) does not use Word as its editor but rather a clone
of Word operating fully freestanding, so your suggestion (if you want the feature primarily for Outlook) really should be posted in an Outlook forum. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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You need to change the paste special
To paste as "Unformatted Text" in Word 2007, click Home tab | Paste | Paste
Special, choose "Unformatted Text" and click OK. Or you can use the following macro: Sub PasteUnformatted() On Error Resume Next Selection.PasteSpecial DataType:=wdPasteText End Sub Attach it to a button and/or assign a keyboard shortcut to it. For more, see http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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You need to change the paste special
Maybe your difficulty is in understanding simple English.
PUT THE PASTE SPECIAL UNFORMATTED BUTTON ON YOUR QAT. (In Word. No idea what to do in Outlook, but you asked in a Word forum.) On Aug 7, 12:47*pm, MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." *Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...?mid=cc44....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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You need to change the paste special
It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one
of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm and http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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You need to change the paste special
Name the macro EditPaste() if you want to override the normal paste
operation in Word, and be sure to save it in normal.dotm (or in an add-in). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... To paste as "Unformatted Text" in Word 2007, click Home tab | Paste | Paste Special, choose "Unformatted Text" and click OK. Or you can use the following macro: Sub PasteUnformatted() On Error Resume Next Selection.PasteSpecial DataType:=wdPasteText End Sub Attach it to a button and/or assign a keyboard shortcut to it. For more, see http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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You need to change the paste special
LOL! Not that you think your advice is the most supreme, exceptional, perfect
advice ever granted to another human in all of history or anything. Maybe I don't want to screw with the QAT... maybe the right place for this feature is next to where the other paste option is. just maybe. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Maybe your difficulty is in understanding simple English. PUT THE PASTE SPECIAL UNFORMATTED BUTTON ON YOUR QAT. (In Word. No idea what to do in Outlook, but you asked in a Word forum.) On Aug 7, 12:47 pm, MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...?mid=cc44....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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You need to change the paste special
Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing but
buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is approaching already without incorporating all the whims in the universe) I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is far from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in that way. Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my post to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products; "Our products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are inadequate." All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously; thank you all for much laughter! "Graham Mayor" wrote: It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm and http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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Ahhh, quite the nice dodge!
But, NOT SO FAST! If word changes, then the clone will eventually change too. Therefore, this is the right place to suggest it. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Actually Outlook (AIUI) does not use Word as its editor but rather a clone of Word operating fully freestanding, so your suggestion (if you want the feature primarily for Outlook) really should be posted in an Outlook forum. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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Thanks Stefan. Not so much for your suggestion, but for being a decent human
being when suggesting it. That is truly a breath of fresh air! I am sure what you write will work, but I think a more "core" solution is appropriate for (what I call) "the real problem"; that it is too hard in the UI to paste without formatting. "Stefan Blom" wrote: To paste as "Unformatted Text" in Word 2007, click Home tab | Paste | Paste Special, choose "Unformatted Text" and click OK. Or you can use the following macro: Sub PasteUnformatted() On Error Resume Next Selection.PasteSpecial DataType:=wdPasteText End Sub Attach it to a button and/or assign a keyboard shortcut to it. For more, see http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within
Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) It is true. In the very rare instances when a MS employee posts here, you will see "[MSFT]" after the posting name. These NGs are provided by MS for peer-to-peer support, and everyone who posts here is a volunteer, not a MS employee. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing but buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is approaching already without incorporating all the whims in the universe) I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is far from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in that way. Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my post to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products; "Our products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are inadequate." All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously; thank you all for much laughter! "Graham Mayor" wrote: It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm and http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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Does the Paste Options button and "Keep text only" not work for you? This is
what I use for stripping the formats. Additionally, in Office 2010 (including Outlook) if you click the arrow below Paste you'll see same options as you do when using the Paste Options button (they're on the shortcut menus too). That way you can select "Keep text only" as you are pasting. :-) ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Well, since you seem to want to pursue the point, what you've written is a
contradiction. You've admitted that in "very rare instances" MS employees do, in fact, post here. Yet the next sentence asserts that "everyone" who posts here is not an MS employee. Which is it? Sometimes, or never? Logic dictates that it can't be both. I am merely stating that I don't believe this forum is free from MS official comment, which you have agreed with. Practically speaking, the general tone of the responses is what I would expect from a Microsoft representative because they've been consistent with the "we're right, the user is wrong" posture Microsoft seems to take in general. Thus, employee or not, it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) It is true. In the very rare instances when a MS employee posts here, you will see "[MSFT]" after the posting name. These NGs are provided by MS for peer-to-peer support, and everyone who posts here is a volunteer, not a MS employee. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing but buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is approaching already without incorporating all the whims in the universe) I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is far from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in that way. Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my post to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products; "Our products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are inadequate." All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously; thank you all for much laughter! "Graham Mayor" wrote: It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. See http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm and http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....mspx?mid=cc44.... |
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Thanks Beth.
Others have suggested this. I understand there are ways to permanently disable formatted pasting (which I don't want to do) and macros/QAT things I can do to expose the options. This is no mystery to me. I simply want "pasting without formatting" to be in a context (right click) menu next to "past with formatting." Other applications do this and it is remarkably useful. The dozens of other words in my original post which don't convey this simple suggestion were designed to 1) vent a little, and 2) get the fanboys wound up because that's usually pretty funny. I acheived both goals ."Beth Melton" wrote: Does the Paste Options button and "Keep text only" not work for you? This is what I use for stripping the formats. Additionally, in Office 2010 (including Outlook) if you click the arrow below Paste you'll see same options as you do when using the Paste Options button (they're on the shortcut menus too). That way you can select "Keep text only" as you are pasting. :-) ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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On Aug 10, 11:43*am, MyHandsy
wrote: Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing but buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is approaching already without incorporating all the whims in the universe) I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is far from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in that way. Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my post to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products; "Our products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are inadequate." You have apparently read approximately zero of the postings here. All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously; thank you all for much laughter! Are you twelve yet? If you're only eleven, then you're precocious. If you're an adult, get a life. "Graham Mayor" wrote: It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. Seehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htmand http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - *Word MVP My web sitewww.gmayor.com Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." *Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. 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On Aug 10, 3:06*pm, MyHandsy
wrote: Well, since you seem to want to pursue the point, what you've written is a contradiction. You've admitted that in "very rare instances" MS employees do, in fact, post here. Yet the next sentence asserts that "everyone" who posts here is not an MS employee. Which is it? Sometimes, or never? Logic dictates that it can't be both. I am merely stating that I don't believe this forum is free from MS official comment, which you have agreed with. Practically speaking, the general tone of the responses is what I would expect from a Microsoft representative because they've been consistent with the "we're right, the user is wrong" posture Microsoft seems to take in general. Thus, employee or not, it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck... IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, which is clearly the only one you've ever looked at, we are right and you are wrong. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) It is true. In the very rare instances when a MS employee posts here, you will see "[MSFT]" after the posting name. These NGs are provided by MS for peer-to-peer support, and everyone who posts here is a volunteer, not a MS employee. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing but buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is approaching already without incorporating all the whims in the universe) I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is far from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in that way. Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my post to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products; "Our products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are inadequate." All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously; thank you all for much laughter! "Graham Mayor" wrote: It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. Seehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htmand http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - *Word MVP My web sitewww.gmayor.com Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." *Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. 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Point 1: WARNING! Don't feed the trolls! (Although if you're going to do it,
do it well - which you have. ;-P) Point 2: Suzanne is nearly right; most of the people who post here do not work for MSFT, and if a Softie does post, you'll see [MSFT] after their name. In addition, I'm pretty sure almost nobody from MSFT apart from the SPAM-fighters ever read these posts. However, some of us do have the ability to provide feedback to MSFT, so maybe your efforts won't be entirely wasted. Point 3: In spite of the somewhat abrasive and aggressive tone of your post (which I certainly understand and can almost agree with), the point you make about how hard it is to do something simple like pasting unformatted text is a good one. I constantly struggle with the way this process is handled in Word, and although there are workarounds, I think it would be a great idea if "Paste Special" were available on the context menu. At the very least, it would be most helpful if the context menu could be customised to some degree so that some of the more commonly used actions - like "Paste Special" amongst others - could be added to it for those users who would like it there. Unfortunately, I'm not one of those who has the ear of MSFT, so there's probably not much I can do to help make this happen. -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup. Read the original version of this post in the Office Discussion Groups - no membership required! "MyHandsy" wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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On Aug 7, 3:23*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Maybe your difficulty is in understanding simple English. PUT THE PASTE SPECIAL UNFORMATTED BUTTON ON YOUR QAT. (In Word. No idea what to do in Outlook, but you asked in a Word forum.) On Aug 7, 12:47*pm, MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." *Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...id=cc44...Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Are there no curtesy requirements for posting here? A good teacher recognizes when his students are having difficulty with the material, and pitches his approach appropriately. The teacher should never shout! You learned this little jewel of politness where? Oh, and this time you did! Like most MVPs, you simply called it "QAT." |
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On Aug 10, 3:12*pm, MyHandsy
wrote: Thanks Beth. Others have suggested this. I understand there are ways to permanently disable formatted pasting (which I don't want to do) and macros/QAT things I can do to expose the options. This is no mystery to me. I simply want "pasting without formatting" to be in a context (right click) menu next to "past with formatting." Other applications do this and it is remarkably useful. The dozens of other words in my original post which don't convey this simple suggestion were designed to 1) vent a little, and 2) get the fanboys wound up because that's usually pretty funny. I acheived both goals ."Beth Melton" wrote: Does the Paste Options button and "Keep text only" not work for you? This is what I use for stripping the formats. Additionally, in Office 2010 (including Outlook) if you click the arrow below Paste you'll see same options as you do when using the Paste Options button (they're on the shortcut menus too). That way you can select "Keep text only" as you are pasting. :-) ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...x?mid=cc44...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - MyHandsy, Hats off for the spanking that you have handed Peter here. I haven't read through the entire thread, but I've seen enough to see him in typical arrogant form and you handling him quite nicely. I am appalled and certainly shaken by his boorish behaviour. Like Woodrow F. Call, you don't seem to like rude behaviour in a man. I sure wish you had a horse and bullwhip ;-) I posted some tips for customizing shortcut menus in Word2007. You might be able to apply them to add your preferred commands to a right click menu: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm |
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As noted, in Office 2010 and you'll find "Keep text only" (which is plain
text) and "Keep Source Formatting" (and other pasting options depending on the application) on the shortcut menu and in Word and Outlook there's a option for setting your Paste Defaults as well. Oh, and there's a Live Preview for the Paste options if that's of any interest to you. Oh, and I hope you achieved a third goal which is Microsoft already implemented your suggestion. ;-) ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Thanks Beth. Others have suggested this. I understand there are ways to permanently disable formatted pasting (which I don't want to do) and macros/QAT things I can do to expose the options. This is no mystery to me. I simply want "pasting without formatting" to be in a context (right click) menu next to "past with formatting." Other applications do this and it is remarkably useful. The dozens of other words in my original post which don't convey this simple suggestion were designed to 1) vent a little, and 2) get the fanboys wound up because that's usually pretty funny. I acheived both goals ."Beth Melton" wrote: Does the Paste Options button and "Keep text only" not work for you? This is what I use for stripping the formats. Additionally, in Office 2010 (including Outlook) if you click the arrow below Paste you'll see same options as you do when using the Paste Options button (they're on the shortcut menus too). That way you can select "Keep text only" as you are pasting. :-) |
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On Aug 10, 8:57*pm, Greg Maxey wrote:
On Aug 10, 3:12*pm, MyHandsy wrote: Thanks Beth. Others have suggested this. I understand there are ways to permanently disable formatted pasting (which I don't want to do) and macros/QAT things I can do to expose the options. This is no mystery to me. I simply want "pasting without formatting" to be in a context (right click) menu next to "past with formatting." Other applications do this and it is remarkably useful. The dozens of other words in my original post which don't convey this simple suggestion were designed to 1) vent a little, and 2) get the fanboys wound up because that's usually pretty funny. I acheived both goals ."Beth Melton" wrote: Does the Paste Options button and "Keep text only" not work for you? This is what I use for stripping the formats. Additionally, in Office 2010 (including Outlook) if you click the arrow below Paste you'll see same options as you do when using the Paste Options button (they're on the shortcut menus too). That way you can select "Keep text only" as you are pasting. :-) ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. MyHandsy, Hats off for the spanking that you have handed Peter here. *I haven't read through the entire thread, but I've seen enough to see him in typical arrogant form and you handling him quite nicely. *I am appalled and certainly shaken by his boorish behaviour. *Like Woodrow F. Call, you don't seem to like rude behaviour in a man. *I sure wish you had a horse and bullwhip ;-) It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it "getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such "spanking" appears above.) |
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"...we are right and you are wrong"
LOL! This is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about, and why I structured my first post the way I did. Well spoken sir! "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Aug 10, 3:06 pm, MyHandsy wrote: Well, since you seem to want to pursue the point, what you've written is a contradiction. You've admitted that in "very rare instances" MS employees do, in fact, post here. Yet the next sentence asserts that "everyone" who posts here is not an MS employee. Which is it? Sometimes, or never? Logic dictates that it can't be both. I am merely stating that I don't believe this forum is free from MS official comment, which you have agreed with. Practically speaking, the general tone of the responses is what I would expect from a Microsoft representative because they've been consistent with the "we're right, the user is wrong" posture Microsoft seems to take in general. Thus, employee or not, it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck... IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, which is clearly the only one you've ever looked at, we are right and you are wrong. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) It is true. In the very rare instances when a MS employee posts here, you will see "[MSFT]" after the posting name. These NGs are provided by MS for peer-to-peer support, and everyone who posts here is a volunteer, not a MS employee. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing but buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is approaching already without incorporating all the whims in the universe) I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is far from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in that way. Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my post to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within Microsoft.'" If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products; "Our products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are inadequate." All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously; thank you all for much laughter! "Graham Mayor" wrote: It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so one of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult to add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands there, you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the right context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter. Seehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htmand http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_...amatically.htm However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is not Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web sitewww.gmayor.com Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org MyHandsy wrote: Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of endless hours of forum entertainment! My point is this: I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel), but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am trying to suggest. I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard, and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people). In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to criticize (at least not for this part). "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: No one here is "within Microsoft." You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT (Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using the Customize procedure. On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy wrote: I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I even wanted it to try. So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special" option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special (mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used. On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to launder my clipboard items? Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please fire a lot of people. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. 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"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Are you twelve yet? If you're only eleven, then you're precocious. If you're an adult, get a life. I retract my comment about you taking things to a personal level. Clearly, you're objective and constructive |
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"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it "getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such "spanking" appears above.) You, Mr Daniels, are a fanboy. That means you seem to believe a priori that, no matter what the topic might be, Microsoft is right and the opinion coutner to Microsoft is wrong. Your emotional state with regard to this post is called "wound up". Hope this clears up the confusion in terms . |
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And you, MyHandsy, are a troll, on whom we have already wasted more than
enough time. If you have a question about how to do something in Word, we will be happy to try to find a solution for you (though you might want to choose a different screen name so as not to prejudice those with long memories), but if you just want to pick a fight, as seems to be the case, then please take it elsewhere. Greg and Peter, please do NOT respond further. It sets a bad example and is discouraging to others who have actual questions and need our help. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it "getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such "spanking" appears above.) You, Mr Daniels, are a fanboy. That means you seem to believe a priori that, no matter what the topic might be, Microsoft is right and the opinion coutner to Microsoft is wrong. Your emotional state with regard to this post is called "wound up". Hope this clears up the confusion in terms . |
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Awwww, c'mon. it was just getting fun! Peter was about to start shouting again!
Oh well... I consider being given the title "Troll" from any MS Office product forum to be a badge of honor. So; Thank you. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: And you, MyHandsy, are a troll, on whom we have already wasted more than enough time. If you have a question about how to do something in Word, we will be happy to try to find a solution for you (though you might want to choose a different screen name so as not to prejudice those with long memories), but if you just want to pick a fight, as seems to be the case, then please take it elsewhere. Greg and Peter, please do NOT respond further. It sets a bad example and is discouraging to others who have actual questions and need our help. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MyHandsy" wrote in message ... "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it "getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such "spanking" appears above.) You, Mr Daniels, are a fanboy. That means you seem to believe a priori that, no matter what the topic might be, Microsoft is right and the opinion coutner to Microsoft is wrong. Your emotional state with regard to this post is called "wound up". Hope this clears up the confusion in terms . |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
... Greg and Peter, please do NOT respond further. It sets a bad example and is discouraging to others who have actual questions and need our help. Agreed. Besides, the suggestion submitted has been implemented in Office 2010 so there's no sense in continuing the discussion. ~Beth Melton |
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On Aug 11, 4:24*pm, MyHandsy
wrote: "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it "getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such "spanking" appears above.) You, Mr Daniels, are a fanboy. That means you seem to believe a priori that, no matter what the topic might be, Microsoft is right and the opinion coutner to Microsoft is wrong. Your emotional state with regard to this post is called "wound up". Hope this clears up the confusion in terms .You have obviously never read any of my other postings in other threads. As you snipped when you "repeated" my words, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, you are wrong and everyone else is right. |
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