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Font Types - 2003
Hi, not sure if this is by design or whether it is a 'bug' in 2003? If you
open a Word document which contains text in a certain font (which you have installed in windows ie not a standard font) and try typing new text, the new text appears in the default font of Times New Roman instead of the existing font? You can then subsequently highlight the text and change it to the original font but this used to work without having to do this in older versions of Office? I have upgraded to SP1 but this still happens. Hope this makes sense... any ideas/comments? Cheers Sue |
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G'day SJH ,
Usually a reboot is required to get windows to recog the font. Otherwise, as Word cant find it, it approximates it using the closest font if it knows about the font in use. The default, as you discovered, is TNR. Steve Hudson - Word Heretic steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment) Without prejudice SJH reckoned: Hi, not sure if this is by design or whether it is a 'bug' in 2003? If you open a Word document which contains text in a certain font (which you have installed in windows ie not a standard font) and try typing new text, the new text appears in the default font of Times New Roman instead of the existing font? You can then subsequently highlight the text and change it to the original font but this used to work without having to do this in older versions of Office? I have upgraded to SP1 but this still happens. Hope this makes sense... any ideas/comments? Cheers Sue |
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Windows does recognise the font - you can change it to the custom font after
you have typed the text in Times New Roman. This isn't necessary in older versions of word though, it uses the custom font immediately on any additional inserted text. Also, Excel 2003 works ok, if you choose the custom font and start typing it does not alter to Times New Roman??? Does Word treat fonts differently somehow? "Word Heretic" wrote: G'day SJH , Usually a reboot is required to get windows to recog the font. Otherwise, as Word cant find it, it approximates it using the closest font if it knows about the font in use. The default, as you discovered, is TNR. Steve Hudson - Word Heretic steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment) Without prejudice SJH reckoned: Hi, not sure if this is by design or whether it is a 'bug' in 2003? If you open a Word document which contains text in a certain font (which you have installed in windows ie not a standard font) and try typing new text, the new text appears in the default font of Times New Roman instead of the existing font? You can then subsequently highlight the text and change it to the original font but this used to work without having to do this in older versions of Office? I have upgraded to SP1 but this still happens. Hope this makes sense... any ideas/comments? Cheers Sue |
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Hi ?B?U0pI?=,
If you open a Word document which contains text in a certain font (which you have installed in windows ie not a standard font) and try typing new text, the new text appears in the default font of Times New Roman instead of the existing font? You can then subsequently highlight the text and change it to the original font but this used to work without having to do this in older versions of Office? I have upgraded to SP1 but this still happens. What font (and other formatting) Word decides to use depends a lot on where the insertion point is located in the document, and how the non-default font formatting has been applied to the text. If you start typing at the end of a paragraph or at the end of the document or in a text box, for example, Word is more likely to use the default font. You might try going to Format/Style, look for "Normal" in the list, right-click it, choose "Modify" and change the font in the dialog box to the one you want to use. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately this didn't help, I changed
normal to the custom font but word still reverts to Times New Roman when you start typing. The insertion point is in the middle of a paragraph of text which is in the custom font. With any other office font word behaves as expected and continues in that font. The same document in word 2000 also uses the custom font and does not revert to Times New Roman. It seems to only be Word 2003 with the problem? "Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote: Hi ?B?U0pI?=, If you open a Word document which contains text in a certain font (which you have installed in windows ie not a standard font) and try typing new text, the new text appears in the default font of Times New Roman instead of the existing font? You can then subsequently highlight the text and change it to the original font but this used to work without having to do this in older versions of Office? I have upgraded to SP1 but this still happens. What font (and other formatting) Word decides to use depends a lot on where the insertion point is located in the document, and how the non-default font formatting has been applied to the text. If you start typing at the end of a paragraph or at the end of the document or in a text box, for example, Word is more likely to use the default font. You might try going to Format/Style, look for "Normal" in the list, right-click it, choose "Modify" and change the font in the dialog box to the one you want to use. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Hi ?B?U0pI?=,
Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately this didn't help, I changed normal to the custom font but word still reverts to Times New Roman when you start typing. The insertion point is in the middle of a paragraph of text which is in the custom font. With any other office font word behaves as expected and continues in that font. The same document in word 2000 also uses the custom font and does not revert to Times New Roman. It seems to only be Word 2003 with the problem? Well, this isn't a Word 2003 problem, at least, I've never encountered it before. There must be a problem with your installation. You're seeing this in all documents, and not just in certain ones? If you open a document that already contains the font, then go to Tools/Options/Compatibility options are you able to open Font Substitution? And if you can, has Word substituted Times New Roman for this special font? If that's the case, then something is wrong with the font (Word doesn't consider it to be installed). You might try removing it under Windows, then installing it again, in that case. Another thing to try - in case the problem is in Word - would be to hold down CTRL when starting Word, to go into Safe Mode. See if the problem is still occurring when you're in Safe Mode. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Could not open font substitution, msg "No font substitution is necessary. All
fonts used in this document are available." Problem still occurs in safe mode too. This happens on any document, including if you create a new document select the custom font and start typing - it reverts to Times New Roman. You can select the text and change it to the custom font but it is a pain as there are a few different custom fonts in some documents. We use terminal services so everyone in the office suffers with this since the upgrade to 2003. I have also tried it on a laptop running Office 2003 and experienced the same problem. Unfortunately I do not have any other custom fonts to test out to rule out it being the font at fault. I doubt it is though since the same font works ok on an Office 2000 installation. Sue "Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote: Hi ?B?U0pI?=, Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately this didn't help, I changed normal to the custom font but word still reverts to Times New Roman when you start typing. The insertion point is in the middle of a paragraph of text which is in the custom font. With any other office font word behaves as expected and continues in that font. The same document in word 2000 also uses the custom font and does not revert to Times New Roman. It seems to only be Word 2003 with the problem? Well, this isn't a Word 2003 problem, at least, I've never encountered it before. There must be a problem with your installation. You're seeing this in all documents, and not just in certain ones? If you open a document that already contains the font, then go to Tools/Options/Compatibility options are you able to open Font Substitution? And if you can, has Word substituted Times New Roman for this special font? If that's the case, then something is wrong with the font (Word doesn't consider it to be installed). You might try removing it under Windows, then installing it again, in that case. Another thing to try - in case the problem is in Word - would be to hold down CTRL when starting Word, to go into Safe Mode. See if the problem is still occurring when you're in Safe Mode. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Hi ?B?U0pI?=,
Problem still occurs in safe mode too. Well, then it isn't a macro firing... This happens on any document, including if you create a new document select the custom font and start typing - it reverts to Times New Roman. You can select the text and change it to the custom font but it is a pain as there are a few different custom fonts in some documents. We use terminal services so everyone in the office suffers with this since the upgrade to 2003. I have also tried it on a laptop running Office 2003 and experienced the same problem. Unfortunately I do not have any other custom fonts to test out to rule out it being the font at fault. I doubt it is though since the same font works ok on an Office 2000 installation. At this point, I'm stumped. And I can't imagine WHAT could be causing it. You might try asking in the word.printingfonts newsgroup. You might encounter someone there - who doesn't have the time to sift through the daily 500 messages that hit this group - who may recognize the problem. Be sure to tell them what you've already tried. And name a font or two where you're seeing this, plus the source of the font. Ah. One other thing does occur to me, although I'm not certain whether it's relevant. You call them "custom fonts". Does that mean someone (not a professional company) designed them? So perhaps there's a setting IN the font design that's causing Word to think "this isn't a font for writing lots of text, so I'm going to help the user"? An example of the kind of problem I have in mind is when fonts are ignored by spell check and also don't respect word wrapping rules at the end of lines. In this case, a "bit" has been set that marks the font as a "symbol" rather than "text" font. Maybe it's something like that? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Thanks for your input Cindy, I will try as you suggest and post it to the
word.printingfonts newsgroup. It isn't essential since we can work round it but it is just a pain and v. odd with it working in word 2000 ok. The fonts in question come from Nissan and I do not know their origin other than that. We will also ask Nissan if they have experienced the same problem although I suspect they many not be using 2003 yet. Anyway, thanks again for your efforts. Regards Sue "Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote: Hi ?B?U0pI?=, Problem still occurs in safe mode too. Well, then it isn't a macro firing... This happens on any document, including if you create a new document select the custom font and start typing - it reverts to Times New Roman. You can select the text and change it to the custom font but it is a pain as there are a few different custom fonts in some documents. We use terminal services so everyone in the office suffers with this since the upgrade to 2003. I have also tried it on a laptop running Office 2003 and experienced the same problem. Unfortunately I do not have any other custom fonts to test out to rule out it being the font at fault. I doubt it is though since the same font works ok on an Office 2000 installation. At this point, I'm stumped. And I can't imagine WHAT could be causing it. You might try asking in the word.printingfonts newsgroup. You might encounter someone there - who doesn't have the time to sift through the daily 500 messages that hit this group - who may recognize the problem. Be sure to tell them what you've already tried. And name a font or two where you're seeing this, plus the source of the font. Ah. One other thing does occur to me, although I'm not certain whether it's relevant. You call them "custom fonts". Does that mean someone (not a professional company) designed them? So perhaps there's a setting IN the font design that's causing Word to think "this isn't a font for writing lots of text, so I'm going to help the user"? An example of the kind of problem I have in mind is when fonts are ignored by spell check and also don't respect word wrapping rules at the end of lines. In this case, a "bit" has been set that marks the font as a "symbol" rather than "text" font. Maybe it's something like that? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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