[Khuxan]

Hi all,

I've been experimenting with Word's in-built citation software (for various reasons, I don't want to use Zotero, EndNote, etc.)

What seems well catered for is the in-line style of referencing where a source is given in brackets with a year (Smith, 2006).

However, I can only find one citation style on the web that gives the full citation that would be suitable for a footnote or an endnote. That is the Chicago Footnotes style found he https://bibword.codeplex.com/wikipag...ringTitle=Home (in beta, as it has been since 2008)

That style is not set up for bibliographies. What it proves, however, is that there is no technical barrier to having a citation style that produces "note" citations rather than in-line citations - so why can't I find any such styles?

I did do a very crude job of copy-pasting the bibliography code from the Harvard style into the rest of the Chicago Footnotes style. That almost works, but it omits author and editor names in the bibliography, unfortunately.

So my questions are

(1) Why are there no complete citation styles that produce "note" citations rather than in-line styles? and

(2) is there an easy way to fix my weird Frankenstein's monster Chicago Footnotes-Harvard citation style so that it shows author and editor names?

Thanks for your help.

EDIT: If you would like to look at my mashup citation style, you can download it he http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...MSFootnote.XSL

[Peter T. Daniels]

First of all, there's no such thing as "Harvard style." Each British university
and publisher has its own style, which they unaccountably call "Harvard style"
even though neither Harvard University nor the Harvard University Press has
such a thing.

Second, after Word2007 they apparently did introduce a separate level so that there are _three_ things, a bibliography, a citation, and a footnote level;
I can't help you with that as I haven't upgraded.

Changing styles in Word2007 requires some familiarity with XML programming and
can take a great deal of trial and error -- I still haven't discovered whether
it's possible to get these three references in the proper order:

Smith, John, and Christina Marquez
Smith, John, and Christopher Chan
Smith, John, and Yolanda Garcia

-- because it alphabetizes from left to right, instead of by last name of
second author.

It would have no problem with

Smith, J., and Chan, C.
Smith, J., and Garcia, Y.
Smith, J., and Marquez, C.

-- but Chicago style requires the first form.

You may find some guidance at this site, which may not have been updated
in many years:

"The latest version of the BibType tool can be found at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography ."

On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:31:02 AM UTC-5, Khuxan wrote:
Hi all,

I've been experimenting with Word's in-built citation software (for
various reasons, I don't want to use Zotero, EndNote, etc.)

What seems well catered for is the in-line style of referencing where a
source is given in brackets with a year (Smith, 2006).

However, I can only find one citation style on the web that gives the
full citation that would be suitable for a footnote or an endnote. That
is the Chicago Footnotes style found he http://tinyurl.com/m96sr4m (in
beta, as it has been since 2008)

That style is not set up for bibliographies. What it proves, however, is
that there is no technical barrier to having a citation style that
produces "note" citations rather than in-line citations - so why can't I
find any such styles?

I did do a very crude job of copy-pasting the bibliography code from the
Harvard style into the rest of the Chicago Footnotes style. That almost
works, but it omits author and editor names in the bibliography,
unfortunately.

So my questions are

(1) Why are there no complete citation styles that produce "note"
citations rather than in-line styles? and

(2) is there an easy way to fix my weird Frankenstein's monster Chicago
Footnotes-Harvard citation style so that it shows author and editor
names?

Thanks for your help.

EDIT: If you would like to look at my mashup citation style, you can
download it he
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...MSFootnote.XSL




--
Khuxan

[Khuxan]

Thanks for your help, Peter.

I got in touch with someone who has created a draft citation style that produces "note" citations rather than in-line citations. He very kindly sent me a copy.

I also managed to fix my own Frankenstein's monster style (I take your point about Harvard - it's actually the University of Exeter style) by copying the namelists from one into the other.