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Alt-Shift-Left vs. Ctl-Alt-3
I'm organizing a bunch of text that I pasted into a document by adding
headers to separate the topics. The heading text is already there as body text; I just want to promote it. But, it doesn't quite work ... The details. The body text is 12 point Times New Roman. Heading 3 is Bold, 12 point Arial. I separate the bit that I want to promote into its own paragraph and hit alt-shift-left, which nicely promotes it. Unfortunately, it promotes it to Heading 3 + Times New Roman. (Note, heading 3 is the prevailing heading level at this point in the document). I really want plain old Heading 3 the way I defined it. Ctl-Alt-3 promotes the Body Text to an unadulterated Heading 3. OK, I can try to remember to use Ctl-Alt-3 instead, but it's possible that there is some obscure option hidden away somewhere that will make it behave the way I'd prefer. Plus, I can't quite puzzle out why someone would make alt-shift-left behave that way on purpose. Oh - Word 2003 on Windows XP. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Ed |
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Hi ?B?ZW1lbA==?=,
I'm organizing a bunch of text that I pasted into a document by adding headers to separate the topics. The heading text is already there as body text; I just want to promote it. But, it doesn't quite work ... The details. The body text is 12 point Times New Roman. Heading 3 is Bold, 12 point Arial. I separate the bit that I want to promote into its own paragraph and hit alt-shift-left, which nicely promotes it. Unfortunately, it promotes it to Heading 3 + Times New Roman. (Note, heading 3 is the prevailing heading level at this point in the document). I really want plain old Heading 3 the way I defined it. Ctl-Alt-3 promotes the Body Text to an unadulterated Heading 3. OK, I can try to remember to use Ctl-Alt-3 instead, but it's possible that there is some obscure option hidden away somewhere that will make it behave the way I'd prefer. Plus, I can't quite puzzle out why someone would make alt-shift-left behave that way on purpose. Oh - Word 2003 on Windows XP. What happens if you press Ctrl+Spacebar on that Heading 3 + Times New Roman result? Is the body text formatted with a STYLE? Or are you just calling it body text? Has the TNR been applied to this "body text" directly? I get the feeling the answer to these questions a No, yes, yes - and that the promotion is "inheriting" the TNR for this reason. If that's the case, create a style for the body text (or use Word's built-in style). Make sure the font name and size are defined as part of the style. Remove any direct style formatting (select, then Ctrl+Spacebar). Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Yes, no, no, as it turns out. Body Text (the style) inherits TNR from
Normal. The text I was promoting was specified as pure, unadulterated Body Text, no TNR or other typeface added. In the great scheme of things, this is a minor quirk, but like so many of Word's quirks, I find it to be truly annoying while I'm in the thick of editing. Thanks, Ed "Cindy M." wrote: Hi ?B?ZW1lbA==?=, I'm organizing a bunch of text that I pasted into a document by adding headers to separate the topics. The heading text is already there as body text; I just want to promote it. But, it doesn't quite work ... The details. The body text is 12 point Times New Roman. Heading 3 is Bold, 12 point Arial. I separate the bit that I want to promote into its own paragraph and hit alt-shift-left, which nicely promotes it. Unfortunately, it promotes it to Heading 3 + Times New Roman. (Note, heading 3 is the prevailing heading level at this point in the document). I really want plain old Heading 3 the way I defined it. Ctl-Alt-3 promotes the Body Text to an unadulterated Heading 3. OK, I can try to remember to use Ctl-Alt-3 instead, but it's possible that there is some obscure option hidden away somewhere that will make it behave the way I'd prefer. Plus, I can't quite puzzle out why someone would make alt-shift-left behave that way on purpose. Oh - Word 2003 on Windows XP. What happens if you press Ctrl+Spacebar on that Heading 3 + Times New Roman result? Is the body text formatted with a STYLE? Or are you just calling it body text? Has the TNR been applied to this "body text" directly? I get the feeling the answer to these questions a No, yes, yes - and that the promotion is "inheriting" the TNR for this reason. If that's the case, create a style for the body text (or use Word's built-in style). Make sure the font name and size are defined as part of the style. Remove any direct style formatting (select, then Ctrl+Spacebar). Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Alt-Shift-Left vs. Ctl-Alt-3
I've tended to use Alt-Shift-Left as a lazy-man's way to avoid paying
attention to the prevailing heading level. I hit shift-alt-left and get whatever is 'current'. I suppose I've taken the trouble to post to the forum so that I can be lazy. Ironic, eh? ;-) Thanks, Ed "CyberTaz" wrote: Hi Ed - Ctrl+Alt+3 is the shortcut specifically assigned to Heading 3, whereas Shift+Alt+LeftArrow is [generically] assigned to the OutlinePromote command. HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac |
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Hi Ed,
I've tended to use Alt-Shift-Left as a lazy-man's way to avoid paying attention to the prevailing heading level. I hit shift-alt-left and get whatever is 'current'. I agree - this is what I always use - and it has always worked for me. I don't have enough information to be sure I'm duplicating what you have (and Word 2007, to boot), but... I just set up a test document. Normal style TNR 11 pt. Body text style basing on Normal, 12 pt. Heading 3 also bases on Normal, with Arial 12 pt. Type text in a new document, apply styles (Shift+Alt+Arrow keys for all heading styles). Then I go to a body text paragraph, Shift+Alt+Left... And I get the Heading 3 style with no added formatting. All of this in the Page Layout view, BTW. So I tried again in Outline view, just to be sure - also no problem. So it must be something special in this document. Perhaps a tiny bit of document corruption? If you: - CUT a section of body text - paste special to a new document as "plain text" - Copy that and paste it back into a paragraph formatted with the Normal style - apply "Body text" to it - then promote one of the paragraphs to Heading 3 Do you see anything different? Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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