[Pamelagio]

Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[garfield-n-odie [MVP]]

I would select "Keep lines together" and "Keep with next" for the
paragraph heading, and I would select "Widow/orphan control" for the
paragraph that follows.

Pamelagio wrote:
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.

[Jezebel]

'Keep with next' applies to the entire paragraph. You meant to apply it to
the heading, to require the heading to stay with (some of) the following
paragraph. But by selecting some of the following paragraph also, you
specified that the text paragraph itself has to stay with whatever follows
(ie the third paragraph).

Select the text paragraph and clear 'keep with next'.




"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to keep
a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and the
entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page before
it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep with
next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[Stefan Blom]

Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6917251539d550

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to
keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new
problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of
a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and
the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page
before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep
with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to code and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6917251539d550

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to
keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new
problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of
a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and
the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page
before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep
with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[Pamelagio]

Thank you all! It seems to accomplish what I need when I highlight the
heading and blank line below it and mark it as "keep with next" and "keep
lines together," while having the whole document widow/orphan protected.
--
Thanks,
Pam


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to code and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6917251539d550

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to
keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new
problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of
a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and
the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page
before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep
with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Just be aware that in doing so you're formatting both paragraphs this way;
it isn't like using Block Protect in Word Perfect to keep just the heading
and the first line of the following paragraph together. "Keep lines
together" affects the entire paragraph, and "Keep with next" will keep the
second paragraph with the one following it, which may not always be what you
want.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Thank you all! It seems to accomplish what I need when I highlight the
heading and blank line below it and mark it as "keep with next" and "keep
lines together," while having the whole document widow/orphan protected.
--
Thanks,
Pam


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to code
and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks


http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6917251539d550

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to
keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new
problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of
a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and
the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page
before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep
with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[Stefan Blom]

Pam,
Also note that the "blank line," if it's an empty paragraph mark, is
unnecessary. Use Spacing After or Spacing Before instead. (Of course,
this doesn't affect the underlying issue with "Keep with next.")

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Just be aware that in doing so you're formatting both paragraphs
this way;
it isn't like using Block Protect in Word Perfect to keep just the
heading
and the first line of the following paragraph together. "Keep lines
together" affects the entire paragraph, and "Keep with next" will
keep the
second paragraph with the one following it, which may not always be
what you
want.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Thank you all! It seems to accomplish what I need when I highlight
the
heading and blank line below it and mark it as "keep with next"
and "keep
lines together," while having the whole document widow/orphan
protected.
--
Thanks,
Pam


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier
to code
and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines
together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks



http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6917251539d550

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with
next" to
keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got
a new
problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two
lines of
a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the
heading and
the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a
blank page
before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to
"keep
with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings
and long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam

[Stefan Blom]

I find it annoying too. Whether it is easy to code really isn't (or
shouldn't be) relevant!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to
code and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks


http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6917251539d550

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Pamelagio" wrote in message
...
Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with
next" to
keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a
new
problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines
of
a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading
and
the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank
page
before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to
"keep
with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and
long
paragraphs.
--
Thanks,
Pam