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Deleting an unused style hoses up tables
I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario.
I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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Deleting an unused style hoses up tables
Try assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then delete the
superfluous styles. -- Hope this helps DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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Deleting an unused style hoses up tables
As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have
the correct styles. "DeanH" wrote: Try assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then delete the superfluous styles. -- Hope this helps DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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Could someone please respond to the following? Thanks! (I hope!)
"Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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It would appear to me that someone has. You should continue in that branch
of the thread. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nellie Nobody" wrote in message ... Could someone please respond to the following? Thanks! (I hope!) "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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DeanH suggested assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then
deleting the superfluous styles. I responded, "As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles." I may not be a Word MVP, but I am far from a novice Word user. Yet I've never seen this problem before. I have hundreds of these docs to copyedit and clean up, have tried everything I can think of, and am desparate enough for an answer to come here. If you have any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them. But don't scold me for starting a new branch when I did respond to the existing one. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It would appear to me that someone has. You should continue in that branch of the thread. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Nellie Nobody" wrote in message ... Could someone please respond to the following? Thanks! (I hope!) "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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Quick question: have you tried Open & Repair? Did this pick up anything?
Maybe the only way to solve this is to convert the tables to text. assign a neutral style (ie a non-table style) and then revert back to Table and format to clear any problems that may be assigned to the old table styles that are still affecting these tables somehow. Hopefully the tables are not too complex. I have come across the problem that a style is indicated to be "not in use" but still seem to cause problems. If you save the file as HTML and then search the source code for the style name(s) to see if they are in fact still in the document. All the best DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles. "DeanH" wrote: Try assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then delete the superfluous styles. -- Hope this helps DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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I have encountered problems like yours many times when using Word 2003 and
before. They usually involve the presence of unlinked styles (often called char styles because the styles appear in the list with a regular style name plus ", char" after it. Styles break when you apply a linked style to part of a paragraph or paste text of a different style into part of a paragraph. (Their presence does not mean the document is corrupt, but leaving char styles alone, as many suggest, for me has meant flaky behavior such as styles changing appearance with or without changes in the settings, style names and appearance changing (headers suddenly become index 2), auto numbers on headings disappear, etc., and eventual corruption usually in the styles or auto numbering. ) One of the first things I do to long multiauthored documents is clean up the styles and remove char styles. An unlinked style is still "linked" to its parent style and deleting it will delete the parent (except for normal and headings 1-9). Unfortunately, one fix is what you are doing: apply only your wanted styles consistently, remove unused styles and char styles, and fix anything that breaks. Another is to apply only your wanted styles and then copy all bu the last paragraph mark (or all but the section break if you are copying by section) into a new document based on your template (or normal.dot if necessary). Another possible cause, even with no char styles present, is that the style your table paragraph styles are based on may be "unused" in your document. Deleting it could leave your table paragraph styles based on the normal paragraph style and taking settings from it. To avoid this, find out what the based on styles are and avoid deleting them. You mentioned that the template is damaged. When you use open and repair, where does Word say the errors were that it repaired. Word repairs errors but may not repair the cause. These problems would show up in files based on the template. So if the errors are in autonumbers, delete and rebuild the numbering scheme. If in styles, try recreating your user-defined styles or rebuilding the template based on a new, clean document based on normal. And so on. HTH, Pam Nellie Nobody wrote: DeanH suggested assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then deleting the superfluous styles. I responded, "As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles." I may not be a Word MVP, but I am far from a novice Word user. Yet I've never seen this problem before. I have hundreds of these docs to copyedit and clean up, have tried everything I can think of, and am desparate enough for an answer to come here. If you have any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them. But don't scold me for starting a new branch when I did respond to the existing one. It would appear to me that someone has. You should continue in that branch of the thread. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] need to. -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ement/200909/1 |
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Yup. It repairs one or more unused numbered styles and occasionally displays
an "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" error for which I can find no explanation. I have indeed did the table-to-text-to-table conversion. Unfortunately, many of these tables have cells containing formatting such as paragraph marks, manual line breaks, bullet lists, etc. I have converted these docs to RTF to delete certain styles, but I haven't tried converting to HTML. "DeanH" wrote: Quick question: have you tried Open & Repair? Did this pick up anything? Maybe the only way to solve this is to convert the tables to text. assign a neutral style (ie a non-table style) and then revert back to Table and format to clear any problems that may be assigned to the old table styles that are still affecting these tables somehow. Hopefully the tables are not too complex. I have come across the problem that a style is indicated to be "not in use" but still seem to cause problems. If you save the file as HTML and then search the source code for the style name(s) to see if they are in fact still in the document. All the best DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles. "DeanH" wrote: Try assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then delete the superfluous styles. -- Hope this helps DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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Yeah, I was wondering if linked/unlinked styles could be causing this, but
haven't seen any suspicious char styles. Unfortunately, I have so many of these docs and some are so long, with so many section breaks and so many tables that the copy-and-paste or the table-to-text-to-table cures would take forever. I have noticed that deleting the Table Grid style seems to clear up the problem, although I then have to re-apply borders to all the tables. Also, I've occasionally run into docs in which deleting Table Grid results in the table text having no style at all, not even Normal. As for Open and Repair, the Go To button doesn't go anywhere, just stays at the top of the doc. Weirdness! "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: I have encountered problems like yours many times when using Word 2003 and before. They usually involve the presence of unlinked styles (often called char styles because the styles appear in the list with a regular style name plus ", char" after it. Styles break when you apply a linked style to part of a paragraph or paste text of a different style into part of a paragraph. (Their presence does not mean the document is corrupt, but leaving char styles alone, as many suggest, for me has meant flaky behavior such as styles changing appearance with or without changes in the settings, style names and appearance changing (headers suddenly become index 2), auto numbers on headings disappear, etc., and eventual corruption usually in the styles or auto numbering. ) One of the first things I do to long multiauthored documents is clean up the styles and remove char styles. An unlinked style is still "linked" to its parent style and deleting it will delete the parent (except for normal and headings 1-9). Unfortunately, one fix is what you are doing: apply only your wanted styles consistently, remove unused styles and char styles, and fix anything that breaks. Another is to apply only your wanted styles and then copy all bu the last paragraph mark (or all but the section break if you are copying by section) into a new document based on your template (or normal.dot if necessary). Another possible cause, even with no char styles present, is that the style your table paragraph styles are based on may be "unused" in your document. Deleting it could leave your table paragraph styles based on the normal paragraph style and taking settings from it. To avoid this, find out what the based on styles are and avoid deleting them. You mentioned that the template is damaged. When you use open and repair, where does Word say the errors were that it repaired. Word repairs errors but may not repair the cause. These problems would show up in files based on the template. So if the errors are in autonumbers, delete and rebuild the numbering scheme. If in styles, try recreating your user-defined styles or rebuilding the template based on a new, clean document based on normal. And so on. HTH, Pam Nellie Nobody wrote: DeanH suggested assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then deleting the superfluous styles. I responded, "As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles." I may not be a Word MVP, but I am far from a novice Word user. Yet I've never seen this problem before. I have hundreds of these docs to copyedit and clean up, have tried everything I can think of, and am desparate enough for an answer to come here. If you have any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them. But don't scold me for starting a new branch when I did respond to the existing one. It would appear to me that someone has. You should continue in that branch of the thread. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] need to. -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ement/200909/1 |
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As for Open and Repair, the Go To button doesn't go anywhere, just stays at
the top of the doc. That has always been the behavior. But the message does tell you that the errors were in tables, styles, numberings etc. That gives you a place (or places to look). I have noticed that deleting the Table Grid style seems to clear up the problem, although I then have to re-apply borders to all the tables. Also, I've occasionally run into docs in which deleting Table Grid results in the table text having no style at all, not even Normal. How does that clear up the problem? Do you mean that the table formatting (font face, size, etc.) returns to what you want? If that's the case, then you may have a table style issue. Are you using table styles? Or have your table styles been modified? Pam Nellie Nobody wrote: Yeah, I was wondering if linked/unlinked styles could be causing this, but haven't seen any suspicious char styles. Unfortunately, I have so many of these docs and some are so long, with so many section breaks and so many tables that the copy-and-paste or the table-to-text-to-table cures would take forever. Weirdness! I have encountered problems like yours many times when using Word 2003 and before. They usually involve the presence of unlinked styles (often called [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] need to. -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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I have come across the "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" error message
before and it was connected to a badly corrupted document. This error has been linked to a incompatibility between 2003 and 2002 (for Mac), and the document needed a complete rebuild. I have many tables that are complex (para/linebreaks/bullets/multi-styles) and there are ways to deal with these and then do the Table/Text/Table without to much trouble, but I see that your chat with Pamelia maybe finding a solution so I will drop off now, but will look in to see if anything bears fruit. All the best to you DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: Yup. It repairs one or more unused numbered styles and occasionally displays an "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" error for which I can find no explanation. I have indeed did the table-to-text-to-table conversion. Unfortunately, many of these tables have cells containing formatting such as paragraph marks, manual line breaks, bullet lists, etc. I have converted these docs to RTF to delete certain styles, but I haven't tried converting to HTML. "DeanH" wrote: Quick question: have you tried Open & Repair? Did this pick up anything? Maybe the only way to solve this is to convert the tables to text. assign a neutral style (ie a non-table style) and then revert back to Table and format to clear any problems that may be assigned to the old table styles that are still affecting these tables somehow. Hopefully the tables are not too complex. I have come across the problem that a style is indicated to be "not in use" but still seem to cause problems. If you save the file as HTML and then search the source code for the style name(s) to see if they are in fact still in the document. All the best DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles. "DeanH" wrote: Try assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then delete the superfluous styles. -- Hope this helps DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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That's interesting! Do you know where Microsoft documents these error messages?
Unfortunately for me, the template on which these bloody arful docs are based contains this corruption. "DeanH" wrote: I have come across the "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" error message before and it was connected to a badly corrupted document. This error has been linked to a incompatibility between 2003 and 2002 (for Mac), and the document needed a complete rebuild. I have many tables that are complex (para/linebreaks/bullets/multi-styles) and there are ways to deal with these and then do the Table/Text/Table without to much trouble, but I see that your chat with Pamelia maybe finding a solution so I will drop off now, but will look in to see if anything bears fruit. All the best to you DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: Yup. It repairs one or more unused numbered styles and occasionally displays an "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" error for which I can find no explanation. I have indeed did the table-to-text-to-table conversion. Unfortunately, many of these tables have cells containing formatting such as paragraph marks, manual line breaks, bullet lists, etc. I have converted these docs to RTF to delete certain styles, but I haven't tried converting to HTML. "DeanH" wrote: Quick question: have you tried Open & Repair? Did this pick up anything? Maybe the only way to solve this is to convert the tables to text. assign a neutral style (ie a non-table style) and then revert back to Table and format to clear any problems that may be assigned to the old table styles that are still affecting these tables somehow. Hopefully the tables are not too complex. I have come across the problem that a style is indicated to be "not in use" but still seem to cause problems. If you save the file as HTML and then search the source code for the style name(s) to see if they are in fact still in the document. All the best DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: As I said below, I'm deleting styles that are unused. The tables already have the correct styles. "DeanH" wrote: Try assigning the correct styles to the tables first, then delete the superfluous styles. -- Hope this helps DeanH "Nellie Nobody" wrote: I am dealing with every tech writer's nightmare scenario. I am using Word 2003 to copyedit software specs edited by multiple authors with limited Word skills. These specs are supposed to comply with a template that is attached to the Agenda Wizard and that contains errors which appear when I use Open and Repair. The authors based their specs directly on this template or on similar docs originally based on this template. The authors subsequently pasted large amounts of material from several other docs based on other templates. In my attempts to clean up these specs, I have tried to delete the hordes of unused styles that have crept into them. However, deleting certain styles hoses up all of the numerous tables in these specs, at best causing the borders to disappear, at worst changing the styles within the tables to bulleted, numbered, or heading styles. It's very difficult to reproduce this problem as it occurs with any of the suspect styles and the results are unpredictable. I have tried everything I can think of to fix this problem. Can you point me to any particular underlying issue? I'm not afraid to edit the RTF if I need to. |
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The error message "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" says nothing to me
about what or where the error is and I can't find any documentation on this. No, if I delete the Table Grid style, the tables retain their previous appearance but the borders disappear. However, deleting the Table Grid style before I delete the unused styles prevents these weird changes to the tables that were my original issue in this thread. "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: As for Open and Repair, the Go To button doesn't go anywhere, just stays at the top of the doc. That has always been the behavior. But the message does tell you that the errors were in tables, styles, numberings etc. That gives you a place (or places to look). I have noticed that deleting the Table Grid style seems to clear up the problem, although I then have to re-apply borders to all the tables. Also, I've occasionally run into docs in which deleting Table Grid results in the table text having no style at all, not even Normal. How does that clear up the problem? Do you mean that the table formatting (font face, size, etc.) returns to what you want? If that's the case, then you may have a table style issue. Are you using table styles? Or have your table styles been modified? Pam Nellie Nobody wrote: Yeah, I was wondering if linked/unlinked styles could be causing this, but haven't seen any suspicious char styles. Unfortunately, I have so many of these docs and some are so long, with so many section breaks and so many tables that the copy-and-paste or the table-to-text-to-table cures would take forever. Weirdness! I have encountered problems like yours many times when using Word 2003 and before. They usually involve the presence of unlinked styles (often called [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] need to. -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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This is late in the day and probably no use to Nellie but it might help
others following the same track. Microsoft give some brief details of the data integrity errors he http://support.microsoft.com/kb/286821 I've found that all sorts of documents seem to have integrity errors according to the Repair function (I downloaded the Word 2003 RTF Specification and ran the check on that - and it had three types of irreparable errors!) so it may be a little tongue in cheek. Well, all right, a lot. In my case I found a combination of errors in a document - ten numbered style errors (they weren't in use) and 8 OLE errors (they did exist and were emphatically NOT in error - they are absolutely correct and functional). The style errors were magically eradicated by simply selecting the entire contents of the affected document, copying to the clipboard, and pasting into a newly created blank document. However, the supposed OLE errors persisted. In fact, they persisted even after Word said it had repaired them - three times in fact. That means I allowed Word to repair the OLE errors, saved the repaired document, opened it for repair - it had the same errors - allowed repairs to occur, saved the resulting document, opened it again - the same thing. My guess is they'll never be "repaired" because they're not in need of it. Further, I took another document that simply said "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1", allowed Word to repair it, saved the result and then compared the two documents - pre and post. The file sizes appeared to be identical, so I opened each one and saved it as RTF. Now there were size differences. Examining the RTFs I found that minor changes had been made (deletion of s0 here and there) and I'm working on finding out exactly what those are and why they're being made. More to follow. This is not a dead issue as far as I'm concerned - I need to find the cause of the problem (if there is one) and eradicate it. Peter -- This face intentionally blank... "Nellie Nobody" wrote: The error message "Internal Data Integrity (Type 4) 1" says nothing to me about what or where the error is and I can't find any documentation on this. No, if I delete the Table Grid style, the tables retain their previous appearance but the borders disappear. However, deleting the Table Grid style before I delete the unused styles prevents these weird changes to the tables that were my original issue in this thread. "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: As for Open and Repair, the Go To button doesn't go anywhere, just stays at the top of the doc. That has always been the behavior. But the message does tell you that the errors were in tables, styles, numberings etc. That gives you a place (or places to look). I have noticed that deleting the Table Grid style seems to clear up the problem, although I then have to re-apply borders to all the tables. Also, I've occasionally run into docs in which deleting Table Grid results in the table text having no style at all, not even Normal. How does that clear up the problem? Do you mean that the table formatting (font face, size, etc.) returns to what you want? If that's the case, then you may have a table style issue. Are you using table styles? Or have your table styles been modified? Pam Nellie Nobody wrote: Yeah, I was wondering if linked/unlinked styles could be causing this, but haven't seen any suspicious char styles. Unfortunately, I have so many of these docs and some are so long, with so many section breaks and so many tables that the copy-and-paste or the table-to-text-to-table cures would take forever. Weirdness! I have encountered problems like yours many times when using Word 2003 and before. They usually involve the presence of unlinked styles (often called [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] need to. -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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