[johnc1476]

Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with a bar
across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way that does not
require the Equation Editor?

[Graham Mayor]

See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?

[Peter T. Daniels]

That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which is
to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is Unicode
0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have the overbar
on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard shortcut to
this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol panel (under
"Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01*am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - *Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. *Is there a way to do that? *Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

[Graham Mayor]

Suzanne is away on holiday - where did she post the more up to date version?
This one is on her web site.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Peter T. Daniels wrote:
That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which is
to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is Unicode
0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have the overbar
on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard shortcut to
this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol panel (under
"Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

[Peter T. Daniels]

I don't know -- two or three times ago that this question came up, she
added a posting to the thread with the new url. It may be Word2007-
specific for the other methods.

On Aug 4, 8:30*am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Suzanne is away on holiday - where did she post the more up to date version?
This one is on her web site.

--

Graham Mayor - *Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




Peter T. Daniels wrote:
That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which is
to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is Unicode
0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have the overbar
on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard shortcut to
this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol panel (under
"Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?--

[Pesach Shelnitz[_2_]]

Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an overbar
to x, but I have been doing this successfully for some time according to
Suzanne's method with an EQ field and Unicode AF. I have even written a macro
to automate the process. To use it, simply type the letter that you want to
have an overbar and run the following macro.

Sub Overbar()
Dim myField As Field
Dim myChar As String

With Selection
.MoveStart Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=-1
myChar = .Text
.Delete
Set myField = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, PreserveFormatting:=False)
myField.Code.Text = "EQ \o(" & myChar & "," & ChrW(&HAF) & ")"
myField.ShowCodes = False
.MoveRight Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
End With
End Sub

The macro has another advantage. It does not introduce any extra spaces in
the field code that can mess up the alignment.
--
Hope this helps,
Pesach Shelnitz


"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Suzanne is away on holiday - where did she post the more up to date version?
This one is on her web site.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Peter T. Daniels wrote:
That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which is
to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is Unicode
0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have the overbar
on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard shortcut to
this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol panel (under
"Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Peasach,

A similiar macro is available in my
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Banner_Text.htm that can easily be adapted to
overbar.

Public Sub Overbarr()
Dim Expr As String
Expr = InputBox("Enter the text to overbarr:", "Apply overbar")
If Expr "" Then
ActiveDocument.Fields.Add Range:=Selection.Range, Type:=wdFieldEmpty,
Text:="EQ \x\to(" & Expr & ")", PreserveFormatting:=False
End If
End Sub


Pesach Shelnitz wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar to x, but I have been doing this successfully for some time
according to Suzanne's method with an EQ field and Unicode AF. I have
even written a macro to automate the process. To use it, simply type
the letter that you want to have an overbar and run the following
macro.

Sub Overbar()
Dim myField As Field
Dim myChar As String

With Selection
.MoveStart Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=-1
myChar = .Text
.Delete
Set myField = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, PreserveFormatting:=False)
myField.Code.Text = "EQ \o(" & myChar & "," & ChrW(&HAF) & ")"
myField.ShowCodes = False
.MoveRight Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
End With
End Sub

The macro has another advantage. It does not introduce any extra
spaces in the field code that can mess up the alignment.

Suzanne is away on holiday - where did she post the more up to date
version? This one is on her web site.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Peter T. Daniels wrote:
That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which
is to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is
Unicode 0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have
the overbar on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard
shortcut to this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol
panel (under "Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x
with a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a
way that does not require the Equation Editor?-

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Aug 4, 9:51*am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does (such
as TNR or Tahoma).

[Pesach Shelnitz[_2_]]

Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x. When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach


"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does (such
as TNR or Tahoma).

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the same
behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly classify it the
"simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message
...
Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x. When I
type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after the 5.
In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space after
the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two characters
do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach


"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does (such
as TNR or Tahoma).

[Peter T. Daniels]

Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the same
behavior that you see. *Even if I could, I would hardly classify it the
"simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - *Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...



Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x. When I
type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after the 5.
In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space after
the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two characters
do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does (such
as TNR or Tahoma).-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

As it is now bizarre and it doesn't work I suppose you still thinks it's
simplier?

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the same
behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly classify it
the "simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...



Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x.
When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after
the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space
after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two
characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does
(such as TNR or Tahoma).-

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Peter,

Conceding that it could be far more difficult if not impossible for you, the
following macro took less than two minutes to compose and stick on the Quick
Access Toolbar:

Public Sub Overbar()
Dim Expr As String
Dim oFld As Field
Expr = InputBox("Enter the text to overbar:", "Apply overbar")
If Expr "" Then
Set oFld = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=Selection.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, _
Text:="EQ \x\to(" & Expr & ")", PreserveFormatting:=False)
With oFld
.Code.Text = Trim(oFld.Code.Text)
.ShowCodes = False
End With
Set oFld = Nothing
End If
End Sub

I could spend the rest of the afternoon testing it, but so far it has worked
every time and it hasn't shown any bizarre behaviour.

Is typing out some arcane unicode character sequence and assigning a
keyboard short cut for every possilble keyboard character, or phase in the
English language for that matter, that you may use a lot really so much
simplier?

I think not.


Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the same
behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly classify it
the "simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...



Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x.
When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after
the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space
after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two
characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does
(such as TNR or Tahoma).-

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[Peter T. Daniels]

I never suggested there was anything wrong with using the Overstrike
field (that's what I did yesterday to put a tilde through the middle
of several phonetic characters in transcribing Arabic, because the
Combining Diacritic Tilde was not positioned properly); but where the
combining diacritic exists, it certainly is easier to open Insert
Symbol and click it. (I don't type the Unicod code myself, but some
people are overwhelmed by the amount of choice provided by Insert
Symbol.) I learned to use the Overstrike filed from the Appendix on
Fields that was included in the MANUAL THAT CAME WITH WORD 5.0 FOR
MAC.

And since I use several score of letters with diacritics regularly, it
most certainly is far more convenient to assign a keyboard shortcut to
each one of them (using a rational system, of course).

For instance, Ctrl-Alt-P is the trigger, and Hyphen gets me macrons or
underbars; v gets me hacheks; u gets me breves; period gets me
underdots; Ctrl-P and period gets me overdots (they're used much less
commonly than underdots); etc. The four groups Latin and Extensions
cover just about every variety of roman letter that's used in any
language of the world, and my keyboard shortcuts cover everything I
need. (For Vietnamese, I use the Vietnamese keyboard.)

It is of course "impossible" for me to create a macro, because I don't
have any idea how to find instructions in creating a macro. I once got
a remaindered "Word2000 Developer's Handbook" that seems to cover the
topic; it's even fatter than the accompanying aftermarket book on
using Word that deals with every command Word has.

For instance, I always wonder what "Dim" means, since it appears so
often in macro codes.

On Aug 4, 4:11*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,

Conceding that it could be far more difficult if not impossible for you, the
following macro took less than two minutes to compose and stick on the Quick
Access Toolbar:

Public Sub Overbar()
Dim Expr As String
Dim oFld As Field
Expr = InputBox("Enter the text to overbar:", "Apply overbar")
*If Expr "" Then
* *Set oFld = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=Selection.Range, _
* * * * Type:=wdFieldEmpty, _
* * * * Text:="EQ \x\to(" & Expr & ")", PreserveFormatting:=False)
* *With oFld
* * *.Code.Text = Trim(oFld.Code.Text)
* * *.ShowCodes = False
* *End With
* *Set oFld = Nothing
*End If
End Sub

I could spend the rest of the afternoon testing it, but so far it has worked
every time and it hasn't shown any bizarre behaviour.

Is typing out some arcane unicode character sequence and assigning a
keyboard short cut for every possilble keyboard character, or phase in the
English language for that matter, *that you may use a lot really so much
simplier?

I think not.





Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the same
behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly classify it
the "simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...

Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x.
When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after
the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space
after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two
characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does
(such as TNR or Tahoma).-

[Peter T. Daniels]

Me, I use macron (for the few characters that don't have precomposed
macronned counterparts) and have had no difficulty.

On Aug 4, 3:54*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
As it is now bizarre and it doesn't work I suppose you still thinks it's
simplier?





Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the same
behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly classify it
the "simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...

Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x.
When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor after
the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space
after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two
characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or when
you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that doesn't
have the character, Word will insert it from some font that does
(such as TNR or Tahoma).-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

The macro I use does not use the overstrike field. Is uses the EQ field
with the \x "box" switch. What is an overstrike field anyway?

Do you really always wonder what Dim means?

Try: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+dim%3F





Peter T. Daniels wrote:
I never suggested there was anything wrong with using the Overstrike
field (that's what I did yesterday to put a tilde through the middle
of several phonetic characters in transcribing Arabic, because the
Combining Diacritic Tilde was not positioned properly); but where the
combining diacritic exists, it certainly is easier to open Insert
Symbol and click it. (I don't type the Unicod code myself, but some
people are overwhelmed by the amount of choice provided by Insert
Symbol.) I learned to use the Overstrike filed from the Appendix on
Fields that was included in the MANUAL THAT CAME WITH WORD 5.0 FOR
MAC.

And since I use several score of letters with diacritics regularly, it
most certainly is far more convenient to assign a keyboard shortcut to
each one of them (using a rational system, of course).

For instance, Ctrl-Alt-P is the trigger, and Hyphen gets me macrons or
underbars; v gets me hacheks; u gets me breves; period gets me
underdots; Ctrl-P and period gets me overdots (they're used much less
commonly than underdots); etc. The four groups Latin and Extensions
cover just about every variety of roman letter that's used in any
language of the world, and my keyboard shortcuts cover everything I
need. (For Vietnamese, I use the Vietnamese keyboard.)

It is of course "impossible" for me to create a macro, because I don't
have any idea how to find instructions in creating a macro. I once got
a remaindered "Word2000 Developer's Handbook" that seems to cover the
topic; it's even fatter than the accompanying aftermarket book on
using Word that deals with every command Word has.

For instance, I always wonder what "Dim" means, since it appears so
often in macro codes.

On Aug 4, 4:11 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,

Conceding that it could be far more difficult if not impossible for
you, the following macro took less than two minutes to compose and
stick on the Quick Access Toolbar:

Public Sub Overbar()
Dim Expr As String
Dim oFld As Field
Expr = InputBox("Enter the text to overbar:", "Apply overbar")
If Expr "" Then
Set oFld = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=Selection.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, _
Text:="EQ \x\to(" & Expr & ")", PreserveFormatting:=False)
With oFld
.Code.Text = Trim(oFld.Code.Text)
.ShowCodes = False
End With
Set oFld = Nothing
End If
End Sub

I could spend the rest of the afternoon testing it, but so far it
has worked every time and it hasn't shown any bizarre behaviour.

Is typing out some arcane unicode character sequence and assigning a
keyboard short cut for every possilble keyboard character, or phase
in the English language for that matter, that you may use a lot
really so much simplier?

I think not.





Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the
same behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly
classify it the "simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...

Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x.
When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor
after the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space
after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two
characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add
an overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or
when you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that
doesn't have the character, Word will insert it from some font
that does (such as TNR or Tahoma).-

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[Peter T. Daniels]

On Aug 4, 7:15*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
The macro I use does not use the overstrike field. *Is uses the EQ field
with the \x "box" switch. *What is an overstrike field anyway?

\O

(Haven't you ever looked into the "Options" button in the Fields
dialog?)

It's rather simpler than the elaborate expression in your line "Text."

Do you really always wonder what Dim means?

Try:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+dim%3F

Why? It won't make any sense without a whole congeries of other
terminology.

And presumably that would give me a large number of dictionary entries
for the English word meaning 'not brightly lit'.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
I never suggested there was anything wrong with using the Overstrike
field (that's what I did yesterday to put a tilde through the middle
of several phonetic characters in transcribing Arabic, because the
Combining Diacritic Tilde was not positioned properly); but where the
combining diacritic exists, it certainly is easier to open Insert
Symbol and click it. (I don't type the Unicod code myself, but some
people are overwhelmed by the amount of choice provided by Insert
Symbol.) I learned to use the Overstrike filed from the Appendix on
Fields that was included in the MANUAL THAT CAME WITH WORD 5.0 FOR
MAC.

And since I use several score of letters with diacritics regularly, it
most certainly is far more convenient to assign a keyboard shortcut to
each one of them (using a rational system, of course).

For instance, Ctrl-Alt-P is the trigger, and Hyphen gets me macrons or
underbars; v gets me hacheks; u gets me breves; period gets me
underdots; Ctrl-P and period gets me overdots (they're used much less
commonly than underdots); etc. The four groups Latin and Extensions
cover just about every variety of roman letter that's used in any
language of the world, and my keyboard shortcuts cover everything I
need. (For Vietnamese, I use the Vietnamese keyboard.)

It is of course "impossible" for me to create a macro, because I don't
have any idea how to find instructions in creating a macro. I once got
a remaindered "Word2000 Developer's Handbook" that seems to cover the
topic; it's even fatter than the accompanying aftermarket book on
using Word that deals with every command Word has.

For instance, I always wonder what "Dim" *means, since it appears so
often in macro codes.

On Aug 4, 4:11 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Peter,

Conceding that it could be far more difficult if not impossible for
you, the following macro took less than two minutes to compose and
stick on the Quick Access Toolbar:

Public Sub Overbar()
Dim Expr As String
Dim oFld As Field
Expr = InputBox("Enter the text to overbar:", "Apply overbar")
If Expr "" Then
Set oFld = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=Selection.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, _
Text:="EQ \x\to(" & Expr & ")", PreserveFormatting:=False)
With oFld
.Code.Text = Trim(oFld.Code.Text)
.ShowCodes = False
End With
Set oFld = Nothing
End If
End Sub

I could spend the rest of the afternoon testing it, but so far it
has worked every time and it hasn't shown any bizarre behaviour.

Is typing out some arcane unicode character sequence and assigning a
keyboard short cut for every possilble keyboard character, or phase
in the English language for that matter, that you may use a lot
really so much simplier?

I think not.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Typing is simpler than composing a macro. And assigning a keyboard
shortcut to a character you're going to use a lot is simpler than
composing a macro.

It's bizarre. It works with some letters -- S, V -- and not others.
I've never before encountered a Combining Diacritical Mark that was
picky that way.

On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
Pesach,

For what it is worth, I can't get it to work either and see the
same behavior that you see. Even if I could, I would hardly
classify it the "simplest" way.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org

"Pesach Shelnitz" pesach18(AT)hotmail.com wrote in message

...

Hi Peter,

The OP referred to adding an overbar or macron to the letter x.
When I type
x and then 0305 as you suggested, I have x0305 with my cursor
after the 5. In
this case when I press Alt+X, nothing happens. If I insert a space
after the
x, Alt+X does convert the number into an overbar, but the two
characters do
not align properly even when I remove the space between them.

Pesach

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:51 am, Pesach Shelnitz pesach18(AT)hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add
an overbar
to x,

What does that mean? What happens when you type 0305 Alt-X, or
when you choose it from Insert Symbol? If you're in a font that
doesn't have the character, Word will insert it from some font
that does (such as TNR or Tahoma).-

--
Greg Maxey - *Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

Pesach,

If I may suggest an alteration. This will overbar an entire string of text
rather than just one character:

Sub Overbar()
Dim myField As Field
Dim pStr As String
Dim pStrBar
Dim i As Long
With Selection
pStr = .Text
For i = 1 To .Range.Characters.Count
pStrBar = pStrBar & ChrW(&HAF)
Next i
.Delete
Set myField = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, PreserveFormatting:=False)
myField.Code.Text = "EQ \o(" & pStr & "," & pStrBar & ")"
myField.Code.Text = Trim(myField.Code.Text)
myField.ShowCodes = False
End With
End Sub


Pesach Shelnitz wrote:
Hi,

I have had no success in my attempts to use Unicode 0305 to add an
overbar to x, but I have been doing this successfully for some time
according to Suzanne's method with an EQ field and Unicode AF. I have
even written a macro to automate the process. To use it, simply type
the letter that you want to have an overbar and run the following
macro.

Sub Overbar()
Dim myField As Field
Dim myChar As String

With Selection
.MoveStart Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=-1
myChar = .Text
.Delete
Set myField = ActiveDocument.Fields.Add(Range:=.Range, _
Type:=wdFieldEmpty, PreserveFormatting:=False)
myField.Code.Text = "EQ \o(" & myChar & "," & ChrW(&HAF) & ")"
myField.ShowCodes = False
.MoveRight Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1
End With
End Sub

The macro has another advantage. It does not introduce any extra
spaces in the field code that can mess up the alignment.

Suzanne is away on holiday - where did she post the more up to date
version? This one is on her web site.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Peter T. Daniels wrote:
That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which
is to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is
Unicode 0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have
the overbar on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard
shortcut to this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol
panel (under "Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x
with a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a
way that does not require the Equation Editor?-

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

In Word terminology, "\o" in this case is a switch.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


_____________________________
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Aug 4, 7:15 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
The macro I use does not use the overstrike field. Is uses the EQ field
with the \x "box" switch. What is an overstrike field anyway?

\O

(Haven't you ever looked into the "Options" button in the Fields
dialog?)

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The article at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...Characters.htm does
mention combining diacritics, but, as the remainder of this thread shows,
they can be unpredictable. Whenever I've tried them, it seems they don't
combine very neatly.

Note that http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...Characters.htm is not
meant to be a "more recent version" of the overbar article but a supplement
to it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
That article _still_ doesn't show the simplest way to do it, which is
to type the Combining Diacritic "Overline" character, which is Unicode
0305. Place the cursor after the letter you want to have the overbar
on, and type 0305 Alt-X. You can also assign a keyboard shortcut to
this character by locating it in the Insert Symbol panel (under
"Combining Diacritical Marks").

Suzanne has posted a more recent version of that article that does
include this information.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

A very polite way to say what we have all (but one that is) has come to
accept. The method doesn't work.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
The article at
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...Characters.htm does mention
combining diacritics, but, as the remainder of this thread shows,
they can be unpredictable. Whenever I've tried them, it seems they
don't combine very neatly.
Note that http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...Characters.htm is
not meant to be a "more recent version" of the overbar article but a
supplement to it.


On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org

[Peter T. Daniels]

It's about time you learned a lesson in politeness from Suzanne.

On Aug 6, 11:28*pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
A very polite way to say what we have all (but one that is) has come to
accept. *The method doesn't work.





Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
The article at
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...acters.htmdoes mention
combining diacritics, but, as the remainder of this thread shows,
they can be unpredictable. Whenever I've tried them, it seems they
don't combine very neatly.
Note thathttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/CombineCharacters.htmis
not meant to be a "more recent version" of the overbar article but a
supplement to it.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

--
Greg Maxey - *Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
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[Greg Maxey[_2_]]

If you want to divert to lessons then I suggest you take and apply one on
humility.

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
It's about time you learned a lesson in politeness from Suzanne.

On Aug 6, 11:28 pm, "Greg Maxey"
wrote:
A very polite way to say what we have all (but one that is) has come to
accept. The method doesn't work.





Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
The article at
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...acters.htmdoes mention
combining diacritics, but, as the remainder of this thread shows,
they can be unpredictable. Whenever I've tried them, it seems they
don't combine very neatly.
Note thathttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/CombineCharacters.htmis
not meant to be a "more recent version" of the overbar article but a
supplement to it.

On Aug 4, 7:01 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


johnc1476 wrote:
Typing a statistical formula, I want to show the mean of x as x with
a bar across the top. Is there a way to do that? Is there a way
that does not require the Equation Editor?-

--
Greg Maxey - Word MVP

My web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
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