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Working with Word 2003, Windows XP Home, OE 6 and IE 7. OE and IE are
configured to be the default client.
In 2006 I tried to sent a letter in Word merge e-mail. Every time I found
the mail in Outlook which asked to be the default client!
Now, I tried it again with the same results. Outlook asked again to
be€¦..etc€¦, answer was NO and mail was sent away! Never ever used Outlook! I
did uninstall Outlook and there was no possibility to choose e-mail! System
1 day back, Outlook icon appeared agian and I can choose e-mail! This time I
get a message such as: €ścannt work it out, install Outlook€ť.
I there a possibility to sent mass mail with OE 6 without installing Outlook?
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk/t0002.htm
I see in Windows Messaging Subsystem a subkey called MSMapiApps and
MAPI=1; CMCDLLNAME32=mapi32.dll; CMCDLLNAME=mapi.dll; CMC=1; MAPIX=1;
MAPIXVER=1.0.0.1; OLEMessaging=1 and also InstallCmd=rundll32
setupapi,InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf

What is still missing so it will work with OE?

Note: Iam a starter.

Thanks in advance,

Pierewiet

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First, try renaming the file MSMAIL32.DLL to, e.g. MSMAIL32.ZZZ

On an English-language system, this file will probably be in

C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033

if it exists on your system at all.

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"Pierewiet" wrote in message
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Working with Word 2003, Windows XP Home, OE 6 and IE 7. OE and IE are
configured to be the default client.
In 2006 I tried to sent a letter in Word merge e-mail. Every time I found
the mail in Outlook which asked to be the default client!
Now, I tried it again with the same results. Outlook asked again to
be€¦..etc€¦, answer was NO and mail was sent away! Never ever used Outlook!
I
did uninstall Outlook and there was no possibility to choose e-mail!
System
1 day back, Outlook icon appeared agian and I can choose e-mail! This time
I
get a message such as: €ścannt work it out, install Outlook€ť.
I there a possibility to sent mass mail with OE 6 without installing
Outlook?
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk/t0002.htm
I see in Windows Messaging Subsystem a subkey called MSMapiApps and
MAPI=1; CMCDLLNAME32=mapi32.dll; CMCDLLNAME=mapi.dll; CMC=1; MAPIX=1;
MAPIXVER=1.0.0.1; OLEMessaging=1 and also InstallCmd=rundll32
setupapi,InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf

What is still missing so it will work with OE?

Note: Iam a starter.

Thanks in advance,

Pierewiet


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My apologies, I was busy with two memorial services of WW II in the past days.

A MSMAIL32.DLL does not excist on my system! Searchprogram Windows didn't
find it.

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On an English-language system, this file will probably be in
C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033
In my system: C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1043 MSMAIL32.DLL
isn't there.

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I haven't forgotten you but I need to do some tests...

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My apologies, I was busy with two memorial services of WW II in the past
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A MSMAIL32.DLL does not excist on my system! Searchprogram Windows didn't
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I had forgotten. Have you been trying to send using HTML format? That will
definitely not work using OE, only with Outlook.

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Working with Word 2003, Windows XP Home, OE 6 and IE 7. OE and IE are
configured to be the default client.
In 2006 I tried to sent a letter in Word merge e-mail. Every time I found
the mail in Outlook which asked to be the default client!
Now, I tried it again with the same results. Outlook asked again to
be€¦..etc€¦, answer was NO and mail was sent away! Never ever used Outlook!
I
did uninstall Outlook and there was no possibility to choose e-mail!
System
1 day back, Outlook icon appeared agian and I can choose e-mail! This time
I
get a message such as: €ścannt work it out, install Outlook€ť.
I there a possibility to sent mass mail with OE 6 without installing
Outlook?
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk/t0002.htm
I see in Windows Messaging Subsystem a subkey called MSMapiApps and
MAPI=1; CMCDLLNAME32=mapi32.dll; CMCDLLNAME=mapi.dll; CMC=1; MAPIX=1;
MAPIXVER=1.0.0.1; OLEMessaging=1 and also InstallCmd=rundll32
setupapi,InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf

What is still missing so it will work with OE?

Note: Iam a starter.

Thanks in advance,

Pierewiet


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I write a letter in Word an insert this letter in OE.
HTML has something to do with webpages isn't it?

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If you are mailmerging to email, you have to choose one of three formats:
a. plain text
b. HTML
c. attachment.

(a) and (c) should work with Outlook Express, but (b) will not.

HTML has something to do with webpages isn't it?


Yes, but it can also be used to make "rich" e-mails.

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I write a letter in Word an insert this letter in OE.
HTML has something to do with webpages isn't it?

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Tried to sent mail in plain text. Windows Installer want to install program.
missing E2561434.CAB. Could find it on CD, Installer couldn't find it! Tried
again then he couldn't find L2561432.CAB. He couldn't find either!
Emailclient isn't standard client, install Outlook as standard client!!
I think it is impossible te sent mass mail with OE.

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OK, I have now been able to start with a clean system that does not contain
the full Outlook - The system consists of Win XP Pro SP2, with IE6 (not the
same as yours) and OE6. I installed Word 2003. I had to install those
Messaging Subsystem registry entries, but could then merge to email to OE
without problems (except for a security message).

So there must be a configuration issue, probably to do with MAPI.

I suggest you try the instructions in the following article (even though it
does not describe the specific problem you are experiencing):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299499/en-us



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Tried to sent mail in plain text. Windows Installer want to install
program.
missing E2561434.CAB. Could find it on CD, Installer couldn't find it!
Tried
again then he couldn't find L2561432.CAB. He couldn't find either!
Emailclient isn't standard client, install Outlook as standard client!!
I think it is impossible te sent mass mail with OE.

Pierewiet





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Thanks for the advice.
There are 3 = mapi32.dll.
mapi32.dll in folder C:\WINDOWS|system32 ;
mapi32.dll in folder C:\Program Files\McAfee\MSK
and MAPI32.DLL in folder C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1043
and also a MSMAPI32.DLL folder C:\Program Files\Common
Files\System\MSMAPI\1043
Your Microsoft advice speaks of the first one?

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I was to quick!
I had to install those Messaging Subsystem registry entries,
You mean:
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk/t0002.htm
I see in Windows Messaging Subsystem a subkey called MSMapiApps and
MAPI=1; CMCDLLNAME32=mapi32.dll; CMCDLLNAME=mapi.dll; CMC=1; MAPIX=1;
MAPIXVER=1.0.0.1; OLEMessaging=1 and also InstallCmd=rundll32
setupapi,InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf

Pierewiet

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Working with Word 2003, Windows XP Home, OE 6 and IE 7. OE and IE are
configured to be the default client.
In 2006 I tried to sent a letter in Word merge e-mail. Every time I found
the mail in Outlook which asked to be the default client!
Now, I tried it again with the same results. Outlook asked again to
be€¦..etc€¦, answer was NO and mail was sent away! Never ever used Outlook! I
did uninstall Outlook and there was no possibility to choose e-mail! System
1 day back, Outlook icon appeared agian and I can choose e-mail! This time I
get a message such as: €ścannt work it out, install Outlook€ť.
I there a possibility to sent mass mail with OE 6 without installing Outlook?
http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk/t0002.htm
I see in Windows Messaging Subsystem a subkey called MSMapiApps and
MAPI=1; CMCDLLNAME32=mapi32.dll; CMCDLLNAME=mapi.dll; CMC=1; MAPIX=1;
MAPIXVER=1.0.0.1; OLEMessaging=1 and also InstallCmd=rundll32
setupapi,InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf

What is still missing so it will work with OE?

Note: Iam a starter.

Thanks in advance,

Pierewiet

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Personally, I would rename all the MAPI32.dll files, run fixmapi, see which
folder a new mapi32.dll appeared in, and see if your system then works. Then
I'd probably just make a note to myself that I renamed the other ones. But
you could rename the other ones and see if your system /still/ works.


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Thanks for the advice.
There are 3 = mapi32.dll.
mapi32.dll in folder C:\WINDOWS|system32 ;
mapi32.dll in folder C:\Program Files\McAfee\MSK
and MAPI32.DLL in folder C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1043
and also a MSMAPI32.DLL folder C:\Program Files\Common
Files\System\MSMAPI\1043
Your Microsoft advice speaks of the first one?

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Renamed 5 mapi.dll in mapi.old, only mapi32.dll in folder C:\WINDOWS|system32
was fixed.
tried to sent a mail to diff. adresses with no succes.
=!!! Windows Installer.....etc.....see 8/31/2008.

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Sri, renamed 4 instad of 5 dll in old.
The other 3 renamed in dll

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OK, I am offline again for another few days (sorry about that), then I think
we should compare file sizes and versions, and stuff in the registry.

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Renamed 5 mapi.dll in mapi.old, only mapi32.dll in folder
C:\WINDOWS|system32
was fixed.
tried to sent a mail to diff. adresses with no succes.
=!!! Windows Installer.....etc.....see 8/31/2008.

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Have a look at this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/903774

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Tried to sent mail in plain text. Windows Installer want to install
program.
missing E2561434.CAB. Could find it on CD, Installer couldn't find it!
Tried
again then he couldn't find L2561432.CAB. He couldn't find either!
Emailclient isn't standard client, install Outlook as standard client!!
I think it is impossible te sent mass mail with OE.

Pierewiet



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Maybe that's the problem! Can it be???
I work, since 2003, illegal with Office 2003

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All you can do is try the suggestion in the article.

I work, since 2003, illegal with Office 2003


I didn't understand this - can you spell out what you mean?

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Maybe that's the problem! Can it be???
I work, since 2003, illegal with Office 2003

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Startup type was already Manual.
I get all "free"? updates for Office 2003 (and 2007) and Windows via Windows
update automaticly. No 2007 on board!

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OK, in that case, can you try the suggestions in

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/284250/en-us

bearing in mind that wherever it talks about Office XP, you are using Office
2003.

(I don't have much hope that this will work, but it's the best I can
currently think of)

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I get all "free"? updates for Office 2003 (and 2007) and Windows via
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Sri abt delay. Was reading and rereading and very busy with out door "things?"

KB 284250 speaks abt Windows 98/98 2nd edition/ME/NT 4.0/2000 not abt XP.
{To install the updated version of the Windows Installer, follow these
steps:== 6. Follow the step that is appropriate for your operating system. €˘
Microsoft Windows 2000ouble-click Q282879.exe to run it and install the
update.} Which .exe for XP?
As far as i know/can see is Windows Installer working fine.

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OK, let's go back to the idea of making a few comparisons.

On my test system I have the following mapi dlls - you can find the
properties by right-clicking on the file name in Windows explorer.

c:\windows\system32\mapi32.dll
File version: 1.0.2536 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Product version 5.1.2600.0

The file size is 109KB (112,128 bytes)
The Modified date is 04 August 2004, 13:00:00

c:\windows\system32\mapistub.dll seems to be the same file with a different
name

These are both English-language .dlls and it looks as if you have the
Dutch-language ones which may be different, but it is worth comparing
anyway.

There is more, but let's start there.

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Sri abt delay. Was reading and rereading and very busy with out door
"things?"

KB 284250 speaks abt Windows 98/98 2nd edition/ME/NT 4.0/2000 not abt XP.
{To install the updated version of the Windows Installer, follow these
steps:== 6. Follow the step that is appropriate for your operating
system. €˘
Microsoft Windows 2000ouble-click Q282879.exe to run it and install the
update.} Which .exe for XP?
As far as i know/can see is Windows Installer working fine.

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Your system:
c:\windows\system32\mapi32.dll
File version: 1.0.2536 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Product version 5.1.2600.0
The file size is 109KB (112,128 bytes)
The Modified date is 04 August 2004, 13:00:00

My system:
File version: 1.0.2536.0 (Extenden MAPI 1.0 for Windows NT)
Product version: ???????
File size is 109 kB (112.128 bytes)
Modifies 11 september 2002

mapistub.dll
Exact the same as my mapi32.dll

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OK, I'm clutching at straws a bit here, but...

1. Can you try renaming the Windows registry value

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging Subsystem\InstallCMD

to e.g.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\InstallCMD2

then running Outlook Express?

2. Do you have a registry key called
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging Subsystem\MSMapiApps
?

3. Do you have a file called mapisvc.inf anywhere on your system? If so, can
you please rename it (e.g. to mapisvc.jnf) ?


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Your system:
c:\windows\system32\mapi32.dll
File version: 1.0.2536 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Product version 5.1.2600.0
The file size is 109KB (112,128 bytes)
The Modified date is 04 August 2004, 13:00:00

My system:
File version: 1.0.2536.0 (Extenden MAPI 1.0 for Windows NT)
Product version: ???????
File size is 109 kB (112.128 bytes)
Modifies 11 september 2002

mapistub.dll
Exact the same as my mapi32.dll

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1. Can you try renaming the Windows registry value

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging Subsystem\InstallCMD

to e.g.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\InstallCMD2 ======== Here Name InstallCmd Type REG_SZ Item?
rundll32 setupapi, InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf. Is there a
difference between CMD or Cmd? And how change InstallCMD in InstalCMD2??

then running Outlook Express? ======= Uou mean if OE is still working?

2. Do you have a registry key called
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging Subsystem\MSMapiApps
======= It is a file with many .exe and .dll


3. Do you have a file called mapisvc.inf anywhere on your system? If so, can
you please rename it (e.g. to mapisvc.jnf) ? ======= mapisvc.inf =
C:\WIDOWS\system32 and MAPISVC.INF = C:\Program Files\System\MSMAPI\1043


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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\InstallCMD2 ======== Here Name InstallCmd Type REG_SZ Item?
rundll32 setupapi, InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf.


Is there a difference between CMD or Cmd?


No.

And how change InstallCMD in InstalCMD2??

Right-click on the name of the value, and select Rename.

then running Outlook Express? ======= Uou mean if OE is still working?


I just want you to run OE one time. I would expect that "InstallCMD" is
there to tell OE what to do when it first runs. Maybe when Word tries to run
OE, it fails because OE cannot do what is specified in InstallCMD. (It does
not matter if you have successfully run OE before - all I'm asking is that
you try again - if it succeeds, we do not need to worry. If it fails, that
tells us something).

3. Do you have a file called mapisvc.inf anywhere on your system? If so,
can
you please rename it (e.g. to mapisvc.jnf) ? ======= mapisvc.inf =


OK, that is interesting, because I do not have a mapisvc.inf here. I think
it is installed by Outlook 2003 installation.

I hate to ask this, but how difficult would it be for you to reinstall
Windows XP?

I am also wondering whether you could try going into Office setup and go
through the process of removing Outlook again?

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1. Can you try renaming the Windows registry value

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\InstallCMD

to e.g.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\InstallCMD2 ======== Here Name InstallCmd Type REG_SZ Item?
rundll32 setupapi, InstallHinfSection MSMAIL 132 msmail.inf. Is there a
difference between CMD or Cmd? And how change InstallCMD in InstalCMD2??

then running Outlook Express? ======= Uou mean if OE is still working?

2. Do you have a registry key called
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\MSMapiApps
======= It is a file with many .exe and .dll


3. Do you have a file called mapisvc.inf anywhere on your system? If so,
can
you please rename it (e.g. to mapisvc.jnf) ? ======= mapisvc.inf =
C:\WIDOWS\system32 and MAPISVC.INF = C:\Program Files\System\MSMAPI\1043


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Changed InstallCmd in InstallCmd2.
OE is running normal. I did sent a msg to 3 accounts but received no msg's!
50 minutes later i did sent via webmail the same msg to the 3 accounts and 1
minute after i received the msg from webmail the "old" msg's! Accidental?

Rename InstallCmd2 in InstallCmd again?

but how difficult would it be for you to reinstall
Windows XP?
you could try going into Office setup and go
through the process of removing Outlook again

Never did this! Have to ask my (outdoor) son.

You didn't install Office without Outlook on your system, just removed it as
i did?

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Hi Pierewiet,

OE is running normal. I did sent a msg to 3 accounts but received no
msg's!
50 minutes later i did sent via webmail the same msg to the 3 accounts and
1
minute after i received the msg from webmail the "old" msg's! Accidental?


I think this is probably because of normal e-mail delays.

Rename InstallCmd2 in InstallCmd again?


If you want. I do not think it will make any difference now.

but how difficult would it be for you to reinstall
Windows XP?
you could try going into Office setup and go
through the process of removing Outlook again

Never did this! Have to ask my (outdoor) son.

You didn't install Office without Outlook on your system, just removed it
as
i did?


Because of your original question about not being able to merge to Outlook
Express, I started with Windows XP + IE + OE + Word, and no other part of
Office.

Even if I install the whole of Office now, then uninstall it, it is very
unlikely that I will repeat exactly what has happened on your system.
However, that might be the next thing to try here too.

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Changed InstallCmd in InstallCmd2.
OE is running normal. I did sent a msg to 3 accounts but received no
msg's!
50 minutes later i did sent via webmail the same msg to the 3 accounts and
1
minute after i received the msg from webmail the "old" msg's! Accidental?

Rename InstallCmd2 in InstallCmd again?

but how difficult would it be for you to reinstall
Windows XP?
you could try going into Office setup and go
through the process of removing Outlook again

Never did this! Have to ask my (outdoor) son.

You didn't install Office without Outlook on your system, just removed it
as
i did?

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I started with Windows XP + IE + OE + Word, and no other part of
Office.
On my system is the whole lot of Office 2003 installed.

I will ask my son to do a new Office setup and remove again OE. This will
takes weeks or more, because he is very busy.

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