I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large document which
contains many hyperlinks to places in the document. I have used Words
default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were created with
€œInsert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document€�. Almost all the hyperlinks
work correctly, but there are a few that link to the wrong place in the
document. I cannot discover any difference in formatting. To be more
specific: the links that are not working correctly are supposed to go to
headings on separate pages €“ each link should go to the beginning of that
headings page; instead, these links are going to the END of the last
headings page. I have tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the Bookmark
instead of the heading, but that also takes me to the (same) wrong place. I
thought perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were the problem, so I tried
removing the Page Breaks and putting all these headings on a single page €“
but the hyperlinks still go to END of the previous heading, instead of the
beginning of the correct heading. As I said, all the other hyperlinks to
headings in this 160-page document work correctly. Any ideas on what the
problem is, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden bookmark
around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the number is randomly
generated). The hyperlink field then refers to that bookmark. When you click
the link, the cursor goes to the beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on the page
before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is usually caused by
having a hard page break before the heading, formatted in the heading style.
That's one of several reasons that hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead,
format the heading (or the heading style) with the Page Break Before
attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for "Hidden
bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select each one
and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page Break
Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page breaks and
change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave properly.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large document
which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document. I have used
Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were created with
"Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document". Almost all the
hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that link to the wrong
place in the document. I cannot discover any difference in
formatting. To be more specific: the links that are not working
correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate pages - each
link should go to the beginning of that heading's page; instead,
these links are going to the END of the last heading's page. I have
tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the Bookmark instead of the
heading, but that also takes me to the (same) wrong place. I thought
perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were the problem, so I tried
removing the Page Breaks and putting all these headings on a single
page - but the hyperlinks still go to END of the previous heading,
instead of the beginning of the correct heading. As I said, all the
other hyperlinks to headings in this 160-page document work
correctly. Any ideas on what the problem is, and how to fix it?
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Thanks for the quick response!

I tried right-clicking on the hyperlink, but that did not give me the
"Toggle Field Codes" option you mentioned. So, I looked at all the hidden
bookmarks -- which are given as the heading names (not with _Ref####), except
for the TOC ones. There are several versions for each heading (not sure
why).
Following your steps, I tried deleting one of the misbehaving hyperlink
bookmarks. I then set up a new heading style to include the 'Page Break
Before' formatting (don't want to change all headings at that level to Page
Break Before - just these few). Then deleted the existing hyperlink and
tried to recreate a hyperlink -- but the new heading style does not show up
on the list of "Place in this Document" on the Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo menu.
(The previous hard page break style was already "Normal".)

Is there another way to find that "Toggle Field Codes" to identify the
correct hidden bookmarks?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden bookmark
around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the number is randomly
generated). The hyperlink field then refers to that bookmark. When you click
the link, the cursor goes to the beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on the page
before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is usually caused by
having a hard page break before the heading, formatted in the heading style.
That's one of several reasons that hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead,
format the heading (or the heading style) with the Page Break Before
attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for "Hidden
bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select each one
and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page Break
Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page breaks and
change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave properly.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large document
which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document. I have used
Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were created with
"Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document". Almost all the
hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that link to the wrong
place in the document. I cannot discover any difference in
formatting. To be more specific: the links that are not working
correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate pages - each
link should go to the beginning of that heading's page; instead,
these links are going to the END of the last heading's page. I have
tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the Bookmark instead of the
heading, but that also takes me to the (same) wrong place. I thought
perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were the problem, so I tried
removing the Page Breaks and putting all these headings on a single
page - but the hyperlinks still go to END of the previous heading,
instead of the beginning of the correct heading. As I said, all the
other hyperlinks to headings in this 160-page document work
correctly. Any ideas on what the problem is, and how to fix it?
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Hi Laura,

Sorry, the mistake was mine -- I assumed that the Insert Hyperlink worked
the same way as Insert Reference Cross-reference with the "create as
hyperlink" option turned on, but I should have tested first.

The Insert Hyperlink command does create hidden bookmarks, but they're
named with what you see in the dialog instead of _Ref####. To see the code
of a Hyperlink field, as opposed to the Ref field created by the
Cross-reference command, place the cursor on the hyperlink and press
Shift+F9. (This is just a difference in the context menus between hyperlink
fields and other kinds of fields.)

After experimenting a bit with both commands, I found that only Word's
built-in headings will appear in either dialog to let you select a
destination. If you create another style based on a built-in style, the
dialogs won't pick it up, even though they have the same outline level. :-(

I think the best you can do is to leave the headings in the original style
("Heading 1" or whatever) and manually add the Page Break Before formatting
to the specific headings that need it. Delete the manual page breaks. Then
test the existing hyperlinks -- you may not have to delete the existing
bookmarks or recreate the hyperlinks. That seemed to work for me.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Laura79 wrote:
Thanks for the quick response!

I tried right-clicking on the hyperlink, but that did not give me the
"Toggle Field Codes" option you mentioned. So, I looked at all the
hidden bookmarks -- which are given as the heading names (not with
_Ref####), except for the TOC ones. There are several versions for
each heading (not sure why).
Following your steps, I tried deleting one of the misbehaving
hyperlink bookmarks. I then set up a new heading style to include
the 'Page Break Before' formatting (don't want to change all headings
at that level to Page Break Before - just these few). Then deleted
the existing hyperlink and tried to recreate a hyperlink -- but the
new heading style does not show up on the list of "Place in this
Document" on the Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo menu. (The previous hard
page break style was already "Normal".)

Is there another way to find that "Toggle Field Codes" to identify the
correct hidden bookmarks?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden
bookmark around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the
number is randomly generated). The hyperlink field then refers to
that bookmark. When you click the link, the cursor goes to the
beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on
the page before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is
usually caused by having a hard page break before the heading,
formatted in the heading style. That's one of several reasons that
hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead, format the heading (or the
heading style) with the Page Break Before attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for
"Hidden bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select
each one and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the
heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page
Break Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page
breaks and change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave
properly.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large
document which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document.
I have used Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were
created with "Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document".
Almost all the hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that
link to the wrong place in the document. I cannot discover any
difference in formatting. To be more specific: the links that are
not working correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate
pages - each link should go to the beginning of that heading's
page; instead, these links are going to the END of the last
heading's page. I have tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the
Bookmark instead of the heading, but that also takes me to the
(same) wrong place. I thought perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were
the problem, so I tried removing the Page Breaks and putting all
these headings on a single page - but the hyperlinks still go to
END of the previous heading, instead of the beginning of the
correct heading. As I said, all the other hyperlinks to headings in
this 160-page document work correctly. Any ideas on what the
problem is, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you
can offer.

Hi Jay -

Thank you very much for your time in testing and responding.

In trying to "manually add the Page Break Before formatting to the specific
headings that need it," I discovered that Word will not allow me to modify
the style of an individual heading -- if I modify the style of that heading,
the formatting change applies to all headings of that level in the whole
document, which will not work for what I'm doing.

So, I found a (very ugly) workaround. I deleted the manual page breaks (I
figured from the outset that they were the culprit), as you suggested. Then
I just kept hitting Enter (blank paragraphs) until the next heading landed on
a new page. This, of course, will not hold up if anyone changes the margins
or other formatting. But it does fix the hyperlink problem -- those
hyperlinks are now going to the correct location in the document. I do not
know how those multiple 'carriage returns' will translate when this document
is posted to the website for which it is intended.

Thank you again for your help.

=======================

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

Hi Laura,

Sorry, the mistake was mine -- I assumed that the Insert Hyperlink worked
the same way as Insert Reference Cross-reference with the "create as
hyperlink" option turned on, but I should have tested first.

The Insert Hyperlink command does create hidden bookmarks, but they're
named with what you see in the dialog instead of _Ref####. To see the code
of a Hyperlink field, as opposed to the Ref field created by the
Cross-reference command, place the cursor on the hyperlink and press
Shift+F9. (This is just a difference in the context menus between hyperlink
fields and other kinds of fields.)

After experimenting a bit with both commands, I found that only Word's
built-in headings will appear in either dialog to let you select a
destination. If you create another style based on a built-in style, the
dialogs won't pick it up, even though they have the same outline level. :-(

I think the best you can do is to leave the headings in the original style
("Heading 1" or whatever) and manually add the Page Break Before formatting
to the specific headings that need it. Delete the manual page breaks. Then
test the existing hyperlinks -- you may not have to delete the existing
bookmarks or recreate the hyperlinks. That seemed to work for me.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

================================================== ===

Laura79 wrote:
Thanks for the quick response!

I tried right-clicking on the hyperlink, but that did not give me the
"Toggle Field Codes" option you mentioned. So, I looked at all the
hidden bookmarks -- which are given as the heading names (not with
_Ref####), except for the TOC ones. There are several versions for
each heading (not sure why).
Following your steps, I tried deleting one of the misbehaving
hyperlink bookmarks. I then set up a new heading style to include
the 'Page Break Before' formatting (don't want to change all headings
at that level to Page Break Before - just these few). Then deleted
the existing hyperlink and tried to recreate a hyperlink -- but the
new heading style does not show up on the list of "Place in this
Document" on the Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo menu. (The previous hard
page break style was already "Normal".)

Is there another way to find that "Toggle Field Codes" to identify the
correct hidden bookmarks?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

================================================== =

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden
bookmark around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the
number is randomly generated). The hyperlink field then refers to
that bookmark. When you click the link, the cursor goes to the
beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on
the page before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is
usually caused by having a hard page break before the heading,
formatted in the heading style. That's one of several reasons that
hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead, format the heading (or the
heading style) with the Page Break Before attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for
"Hidden bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select
each one and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the
heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page
Break Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page
breaks and change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave
properly.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.


================================================
Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large
document which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document.
I have used Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were
created with "Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document".
Almost all the hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that
link to the wrong place in the document. I cannot discover any
difference in formatting. To be more specific: the links that are
not working correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate
pages - each link should go to the beginning of that heading's
page; instead, these links are going to the END of the last
heading's page. I have tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the
Bookmark instead of the heading, but that also takes me to the
(same) wrong place. I thought perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were
the problem, so I tried removing the Page Breaks and putting all
these headings on a single page - but the hyperlinks still go to
END of the previous heading, instead of the beginning of the
correct heading. As I said, all the other hyperlinks to headings in
this 160-page document work correctly. Any ideas on what the
problem is, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you
can offer.

As you say, this is a very ugly workaround. If applying the "Page break
before" property to the paragraph in question changes the style, then it's
possible that "Automatically update" is enabled for that style, and this is
something you can change.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Laura79" wrote in message
...
Hi Jay -

Thank you very much for your time in testing and responding.

In trying to "manually add the Page Break Before formatting to the
specific
headings that need it," I discovered that Word will not allow me to modify
the style of an individual heading -- if I modify the style of that
heading,
the formatting change applies to all headings of that level in the whole
document, which will not work for what I'm doing.

So, I found a (very ugly) workaround. I deleted the manual page breaks (I
figured from the outset that they were the culprit), as you suggested.
Then
I just kept hitting Enter (blank paragraphs) until the next heading landed
on
a new page. This, of course, will not hold up if anyone changes the
margins
or other formatting. But it does fix the hyperlink problem -- those
hyperlinks are now going to the correct location in the document. I do
not
know how those multiple 'carriage returns' will translate when this
document
is posted to the website for which it is intended.

Thank you again for your help.

=======================

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

Hi Laura,

Sorry, the mistake was mine -- I assumed that the Insert Hyperlink
worked
the same way as Insert Reference Cross-reference with the "create as
hyperlink" option turned on, but I should have tested first.

The Insert Hyperlink command does create hidden bookmarks, but they're
named with what you see in the dialog instead of _Ref####. To see the
code
of a Hyperlink field, as opposed to the Ref field created by the
Cross-reference command, place the cursor on the hyperlink and press
Shift+F9. (This is just a difference in the context menus between
hyperlink
fields and other kinds of fields.)

After experimenting a bit with both commands, I found that only Word's
built-in headings will appear in either dialog to let you select a
destination. If you create another style based on a built-in style, the
dialogs won't pick it up, even though they have the same outline level.
:-(

I think the best you can do is to leave the headings in the original
style
("Heading 1" or whatever) and manually add the Page Break Before
formatting
to the specific headings that need it. Delete the manual page breaks.
Then
test the existing hyperlinks -- you may not have to delete the existing
bookmarks or recreate the hyperlinks. That seemed to work for me.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

================================================== ===

Laura79 wrote:
Thanks for the quick response!

I tried right-clicking on the hyperlink, but that did not give me the
"Toggle Field Codes" option you mentioned. So, I looked at all the
hidden bookmarks -- which are given as the heading names (not with
_Ref####), except for the TOC ones. There are several versions for
each heading (not sure why).
Following your steps, I tried deleting one of the misbehaving
hyperlink bookmarks. I then set up a new heading style to include
the 'Page Break Before' formatting (don't want to change all headings
at that level to Page Break Before - just these few). Then deleted
the existing hyperlink and tried to recreate a hyperlink -- but the
new heading style does not show up on the list of "Place in this
Document" on the Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo menu. (The previous hard
page break style was already "Normal".)

Is there another way to find that "Toggle Field Codes" to identify the
correct hidden bookmarks?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

================================================== =

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden
bookmark around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the
number is randomly generated). The hyperlink field then refers to
that bookmark. When you click the link, the cursor goes to the
beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on
the page before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is
usually caused by having a hard page break before the heading,
formatted in the heading style. That's one of several reasons that
hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead, format the heading (or the
heading style) with the Page Break Before attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for
"Hidden bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select
each one and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the
heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page
Break Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page
breaks and change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave
properly.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.


================================================
Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large
document which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document.
I have used Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were
created with "Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document".
Almost all the hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that
link to the wrong place in the document. I cannot discover any
difference in formatting. To be more specific: the links that are
not working correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate
pages - each link should go to the beginning of that heading's
page; instead, these links are going to the END of the last
heading's page. I have tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the
Bookmark instead of the heading, but that also takes me to the
(same) wrong place. I thought perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were
the problem, so I tried removing the Page Breaks and putting all
these headings on a single page - but the hyperlinks still go to
END of the previous heading, instead of the beginning of the
correct heading. As I said, all the other hyperlinks to headings in
this 160-page document work correctly. Any ideas on what the
problem is, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you
can offer.

Noooo!!!!! Wrong way!! Those multiple carriage returns will come back
to bite you again and again. Any time you edit anything in the text
before that point, you'll get unwanted white space at the top of the
page or the heading moving back to the previous page, repeated for
every heading you've treated this way. Don't do it!

When I said to "manually add the Page Break Before formatting to the
specific headings that need it," I meant to put the cursor in the
specific heading paragraph, go to Format Paragraph, and check the
Page Break Before box. This does *not* affect the heading style, which
you specifically do not want to do. (Although if changing it in one
heading does affect the style and change all the other headings, you
have a different problem -- see
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...eformatted.htm.)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org


On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:08:02 -0700, Laura79
wrote:

Hi Jay -

Thank you very much for your time in testing and responding.

In trying to "manually add the Page Break Before formatting to the specific
headings that need it," I discovered that Word will not allow me to modify
the style of an individual heading -- if I modify the style of that heading,
the formatting change applies to all headings of that level in the whole
document, which will not work for what I'm doing.

So, I found a (very ugly) workaround. I deleted the manual page breaks (I
figured from the outset that they were the culprit), as you suggested. Then
I just kept hitting Enter (blank paragraphs) until the next heading landed on
a new page. This, of course, will not hold up if anyone changes the margins
or other formatting. But it does fix the hyperlink problem -- those
hyperlinks are now going to the correct location in the document. I do not
know how those multiple 'carriage returns' will translate when this document
is posted to the website for which it is intended.

Thank you again for your help.

=======================

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

Hi Laura,

Sorry, the mistake was mine -- I assumed that the Insert Hyperlink worked
the same way as Insert Reference Cross-reference with the "create as
hyperlink" option turned on, but I should have tested first.

The Insert Hyperlink command does create hidden bookmarks, but they're
named with what you see in the dialog instead of _Ref####. To see the code
of a Hyperlink field, as opposed to the Ref field created by the
Cross-reference command, place the cursor on the hyperlink and press
Shift+F9. (This is just a difference in the context menus between hyperlink
fields and other kinds of fields.)

After experimenting a bit with both commands, I found that only Word's
built-in headings will appear in either dialog to let you select a
destination. If you create another style based on a built-in style, the
dialogs won't pick it up, even though they have the same outline level. :-(

I think the best you can do is to leave the headings in the original style
("Heading 1" or whatever) and manually add the Page Break Before formatting
to the specific headings that need it. Delete the manual page breaks. Then
test the existing hyperlinks -- you may not have to delete the existing
bookmarks or recreate the hyperlinks. That seemed to work for me.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

================================================== ===

Laura79 wrote:
Thanks for the quick response!

I tried right-clicking on the hyperlink, but that did not give me the
"Toggle Field Codes" option you mentioned. So, I looked at all the
hidden bookmarks -- which are given as the heading names (not with
_Ref####), except for the TOC ones. There are several versions for
each heading (not sure why).
Following your steps, I tried deleting one of the misbehaving
hyperlink bookmarks. I then set up a new heading style to include
the 'Page Break Before' formatting (don't want to change all headings
at that level to Page Break Before - just these few). Then deleted
the existing hyperlink and tried to recreate a hyperlink -- but the
new heading style does not show up on the list of "Place in this
Document" on the Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo menu. (The previous hard
page break style was already "Normal".)

Is there another way to find that "Toggle Field Codes" to identify the
correct hidden bookmarks?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

================================================== =

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden
bookmark around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the
number is randomly generated). The hyperlink field then refers to
that bookmark. When you click the link, the cursor goes to the
beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on
the page before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is
usually caused by having a hard page break before the heading,
formatted in the heading style. That's one of several reasons that
hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead, format the heading (or the
heading style) with the Page Break Before attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for
"Hidden bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select
each one and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the
heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page
Break Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page
breaks and change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave
properly.

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Jay Freedman
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Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large
document which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document.
I have used Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were
created with "Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document".
Almost all the hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that
link to the wrong place in the document. I cannot discover any
difference in formatting. To be more specific: the links that are
not working correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate
pages - each link should go to the beginning of that heading's
page; instead, these links are going to the END of the last
heading's page. I have tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the
Bookmark instead of the heading, but that also takes me to the
(same) wrong place. I thought perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were
the problem, so I tried removing the Page Breaks and putting all
these headings on a single page - but the hyperlinks still go to
END of the previous heading, instead of the beginning of the
correct heading. As I said, all the other hyperlinks to headings in
this 160-page document work correctly. Any ideas on what the
problem is, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you
can offer.




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Suzanne and Jay -

Thank you for your responses - and your patience.

I did (always) make sure "Automatically Update" was unchecked when modifying
any formatting style - thanks.

I did take out all the 'carriage returns' (even though each of these
headings was for a blank page, I knew that workaround would probably create
problems at some point).

I did manually insert the Format Paragraph Page Break Before. Now the
page breaks are where they're supposed to be. And the hyperlinks go where
they're supposed to go. Everything is good!

Thank you so much for your help!!


"Jay Freedman" wrote:

Noooo!!!!! Wrong way!! Those multiple carriage returns will come back
to bite you again and again. Any time you edit anything in the text
before that point, you'll get unwanted white space at the top of the
page or the heading moving back to the previous page, repeated for
every heading you've treated this way. Don't do it!

When I said to "manually add the Page Break Before formatting to the
specific headings that need it," I meant to put the cursor in the
specific heading paragraph, go to Format Paragraph, and check the
Page Break Before box. This does *not* affect the heading style, which
you specifically do not want to do. (Although if changing it in one
heading does affect the style and change all the other headings, you
have a different problem -- see
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...eformatted.htm.)

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Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org


On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:08:02 -0700, Laura79
wrote:

Hi Jay -

Thank you very much for your time in testing and responding.

In trying to "manually add the Page Break Before formatting to the specific
headings that need it," I discovered that Word will not allow me to modify
the style of an individual heading -- if I modify the style of that heading,
the formatting change applies to all headings of that level in the whole
document, which will not work for what I'm doing.

So, I found a (very ugly) workaround. I deleted the manual page breaks (I
figured from the outset that they were the culprit), as you suggested. Then
I just kept hitting Enter (blank paragraphs) until the next heading landed on
a new page. This, of course, will not hold up if anyone changes the margins
or other formatting. But it does fix the hyperlink problem -- those
hyperlinks are now going to the correct location in the document. I do not
know how those multiple 'carriage returns' will translate when this document
is posted to the website for which it is intended.

Thank you again for your help.

=======================

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

Hi Laura,

Sorry, the mistake was mine -- I assumed that the Insert Hyperlink worked
the same way as Insert Reference Cross-reference with the "create as
hyperlink" option turned on, but I should have tested first.

The Insert Hyperlink command does create hidden bookmarks, but they're
named with what you see in the dialog instead of _Ref####. To see the code
of a Hyperlink field, as opposed to the Ref field created by the
Cross-reference command, place the cursor on the hyperlink and press
Shift+F9. (This is just a difference in the context menus between hyperlink
fields and other kinds of fields.)

After experimenting a bit with both commands, I found that only Word's
built-in headings will appear in either dialog to let you select a
destination. If you create another style based on a built-in style, the
dialogs won't pick it up, even though they have the same outline level. :-(

I think the best you can do is to leave the headings in the original style
("Heading 1" or whatever) and manually add the Page Break Before formatting
to the specific headings that need it. Delete the manual page breaks. Then
test the existing hyperlinks -- you may not have to delete the existing
bookmarks or recreate the hyperlinks. That seemed to work for me.

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Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

================================================== ===

Laura79 wrote:
Thanks for the quick response!

I tried right-clicking on the hyperlink, but that did not give me the
"Toggle Field Codes" option you mentioned. So, I looked at all the
hidden bookmarks -- which are given as the heading names (not with
_Ref####), except for the TOC ones. There are several versions for
each heading (not sure why).
Following your steps, I tried deleting one of the misbehaving
hyperlink bookmarks. I then set up a new heading style to include
the 'Page Break Before' formatting (don't want to change all headings
at that level to Page Break Before - just these few). Then deleted
the existing hyperlink and tried to recreate a hyperlink -- but the
new heading style does not show up on the list of "Place in this
Document" on the Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo menu. (The previous hard
page break style was already "Normal".)

Is there another way to find that "Toggle Field Codes" to identify the
correct hidden bookmarks?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

================================================== =

"Jay Freedman" wrote:

When you insert a hyperlink to a heading, Word inserts a hidden
bookmark around the heading, with a name like _Ref70769874 (the
number is randomly generated). The hyperlink field then refers to
that bookmark. When you click the link, the cursor goes to the
beginning of the bookmark.

In the misbehaving cases, the bookmark must surround some text on
the page before the heading as well as the heading itself. This is
usually caused by having a hard page break before the heading,
formatted in the heading style. That's one of several reasons that
hard page breaks are a Bad Idea. Instead, format the heading (or the
heading style) with the Page Break Before attribute.

To fix the problem, try these steps:

- Right-click a misbehaving hyperlink and select Toggle Field Codes.
- Make a note of the _Ref number in the code.
- Repeat for the other misbehaving hyperlinks.
- Open the Insert Bookmark dialog. Uncheck and recheck the box for
"Hidden bookmarks". All the _Ref names should now appear in the list.
- Find the bookmarks that were referenced by the hyperlinks, select
each one and delete it. (This deletes the bookmark, but not the
heading.)
- Either (a) remove the hard page breaks and replace them with Page
Break Before formatting in the headings, or (b) select the hard page
breaks and change their style to Normal.
- Delete and recreate the hyperlinks. They should now behave
properly.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.


================================================
Laura79 wrote:
I am using Word 2002 with Windows Me. I have created a large
document which contains many hyperlinks to places in the document.
I have used Word's default Heading Styles. All the hyperlinks were
created with "Insert-Hyperlink-LinkTo:Place in this Document".
Almost all the hyperlinks work correctly, but there are a few that
link to the wrong place in the document. I cannot discover any
difference in formatting. To be more specific: the links that are
not working correctly are supposed to go to headings on separate
pages - each link should go to the beginning of that heading's
page; instead, these links are going to the END of the last
heading's page. I have tried creating Bookmarks and linking to the
Bookmark instead of the heading, but that also takes me to the
(same) wrong place. I thought perhaps the inserted Page Breaks were
the problem, so I tried removing the Page Breaks and putting all
these headings on a single page - but the hyperlinks still go to
END of the previous heading, instead of the beginning of the
correct heading. As I said, all the other hyperlinks to headings in
this 160-page document work correctly. Any ideas on what the
problem is, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you
can offer.




--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.